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Old December 28th 18, 05:39 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Nomen Nescio[_3_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the
mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/
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Old December 28th 18, 07:56 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux


A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/


It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!

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Old December 28th 18, 08:40 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Blake[_2_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.

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Old December 28th 18, 09:49 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Kozlov[_2_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


If you've ever used Office 365 you'll see a good license routine. If
they could do that with Windows they'd have a winner. Adobe has a method
where if you install their suite and you already have it activated
elsewhere, you can tell the current install to de-activate older installs
and have the newer take the place of the older.

It's evolving for the better but the pace of this evolution is slow. A
huge advantage for Linux is you're free to install it and distribute it.
A corporate dream come true.

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Old December 28th 18, 10:26 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Nomen Nescio[_3_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation
hell, which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that
needed to be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital
license" would be honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns
out to be just another Big Lie.


Use Removewat 2.2.9

http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/
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Old December 28th 18, 10:37 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

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Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.

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Old December 28th 18, 11:04 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Blake[_2_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Use Removewat 2.2.9
http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/


Looks interesting, but I'm leery of using a "crack" program which
Microsoft may work around at some point. (I explained to my friend who
is elderly and doesn't really understand any of this that he needs
permission from Microsoft to use his computer.)

I just spent a fruitless hour or so with Microsoft "Support" which
was about as useful and painless as dropping the computer on my toe.
This is an old computer so I'll probably just put it back to its original
Windows 7, there's still about a year of support left in that puppy and
by that time the PC may be replaced.

Unfortunately the owner uses some Windows-based programs and I don't want
him (or me supporting him) having to deal with Wine or virtual machines,
so Linux is not an option in his case. I guess that's the only reason
people put up with this kind of crap. You wouldn't put up with such an
inconvenience for a damned $20 toaster, but people have to deal with it
on their much more expensive PCs.

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Old December 28th 18, 11:31 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Nomen Nescio[_3_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Use Removewat 2.2.9
http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/


Looks interesting, but I'm leery of using a "crack" program which
Microsoft may work around at some point. (I explained to my friend
who is elderly and doesn't really understand any of this that he
needs permission from Microsoft to use his computer.)

I just spent a fruitless hour or so with Microsoft "Support" which
was about as useful and painless as dropping the computer on my toe.
This is an old computer so I'll probably just put it back to its
original Windows 7, there's still about a year of support left in
that puppy and by that time the PC may be replaced.

Unfortunately the owner uses some Windows-based programs and I don't
want him (or me supporting him) having to deal with Wine or virtual
machines, so Linux is not an option in his case. I guess that's the
only reason people put up with this kind of crap. You wouldn't put up
with such an inconvenience for a damned $20 toaster, but people have
to deal with it on their much more expensive PCs.


I will not go beyond Windows 7. Any higher is known to be spying on
you. I value my privacy, even to the point of using a Cotse ssh
VPNthingy and an external pfSense firewall. No one should ever upgrade
to Windows 8 or 10. I have not upgraded my W7 for years now also. I
would not be caught up in the Microsoft update crises mania or afraid
of not being able to run future programs without a system upgrade.
Only games and other childish nonsense requires that. A good x64
Windows 7 machine is all one needs in my opinion. Microsoft is not
making that many system changes, but they are actually trying to
convert people to running a Microsoft service, something that is only
going to lock people into a continuous cost system. I will go to Linux
before getting sucked into that. The only reason I haven't gone to
Linux already is because of the software I am using and written.
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Old December 29th 18, 12:39 AM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Blake[_2_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.


After a lengthy remote tech session with Microsoft, they don't know
what the problem is either. (Generally I'd say it's just another buggy,
unreliable Microsoft malfeature.)

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Old December 29th 18, 12:48 AM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Kozlov[_2_]
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.


After a lengthy remote tech session with Microsoft, they don't know
what the problem is either. (Generally I'd say it's just another buggy,
unreliable Microsoft malfeature.)


Sometimes the request is made to a server which doesn't reply properly
and you get this problem. And even if you call them to do it over the
phone, they themselves have the same issue. It tends to resolve itself
later. Still a hassle. They need a system more like the one they use for
365 apps.

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Old December 29th 18, 04:13 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 12/28/18 10:56 AM, Anonymous wrote:

A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/


It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


I had the same reaction when I went from Scientific Linux (RHEL clone)
to Fedora.

Guess what? Once you learn it and get past the cussing phase,
you will adore it. So cowboy up!

:-)



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Old December 29th 18, 09:20 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 28/12/2018 22:31, Nomen Nescio wrote:
....
*I will not go beyond Windows 7.* ....



Unfortunately, some organizations seem to think they don't need to
support anything else. Two come instantly to mind that cause me some
grief. Supply your own company names :-)

Car GPS unit updates require windows - they don't even support vista
now. Fortunately I have an old laptop that sits in the cupboard, but its
time is running out.

Music score electronic downloads. (Linux? Tough! That was the attitude
when I complained).

The first I could sort-of understand. The second, just laziness or maybe
management ignorance. I strongly suspect there's a breed of programmer
that's too lazy (or just too incompetent) to abstract out the OS
interface from their code.

But there seems nothing the user can do -- there are no alternatives to
those suppliers.


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Old December 29th 18, 12:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:40:58 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in
question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it
to be activated is fruitless.

(f/u set)
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Old December 29th 18, 12:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 10:39:10 -0600, "Nomen Nescio"
wrote:

A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux worlds best hope for the
mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/


But who does need another desktop operating system?

Most people use Android and Windows. So today the natural successor to
Windows on the desktop seems to be Chrome OS (also supports
Android-Apps on many new Chrome OS-devices now), for older PCs
Cloudready (a Chrome OS-clone for PC).

I was thinking of replacing Quicken (Windows only) by GnuCash
(Windows, Linux, Mac etc.), but data transfer would be an ordeal, so I
stopped. But GnuCash it`s already available as a cloud solution for
Chrome OS:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...dhlfnnmaioanjl

And a Linux shell for Chrome OS is already in the beta phase (so later
GnuCash should run within Chrome OS), I played with it a bit on the
Acer Chromebox cxi3 (around 245 Euro) of our daughter. Btw, Kodi for
Android works well on this little box.

Regards

M.

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Old December 29th 18, 01:10 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 29/12/2018 09.20, Mike Scott wrote:
On 28/12/2018 22:31, Nomen Nescio wrote:
...
**I will not go beyond Windows 7.* ....



Unfortunately, some organizations seem to think they don't need to
support anything else. Two come instantly to mind that cause me some
grief. Supply your own company names :-)

Car GPS unit updates require windows - they don't even support vista
now. Fortunately I have an old laptop that sits in the cupboard, but its
time is running out.


My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced
the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at
all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they
intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units.

I considered getting another brand, but they didn't convince me either.

So the new TomTom I got gets updates via WiFi instead, without needing a
computer. And has maps free for life, where life=5 years. That's
probably acceptable, seems cheaper than the previous state.

Its USB is seen by Linux, it is recognized. So maybe in Windows it can
be used for something, but doing updates via WiFI will allow me not to
boot Windows for that. Improvement :-)

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