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  #16  
Old August 15th 04, 12:28 AM
Licantrop0
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

Well Windows Messenger's ability to function is required for the
Whiteboard, Application Sharing and Remote Assistance capability in
MSN Messenger (simply because of how the individual components were
written), so disabling it is somewhat out of the question.


Infact I suggested (also) to hide it from the tray icon and the start menu
or to prevent the startup-load and outlook-load automatically during
MSN Messenger Install.

Some people also like to use both...


What kind of... MSN Messenger is all that is Windows Messenger and
a lot more, you may know better than me!

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  #17  
Old August 15th 04, 12:28 AM
Licantrop0
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

Well Windows Messenger's ability to function is required for the
Whiteboard, Application Sharing and Remote Assistance capability in
MSN Messenger (simply because of how the individual components were
written), so disabling it is somewhat out of the question.


Infact I suggested (also) to hide it from the tray icon and the start menu
or to prevent the startup-load and outlook-load automatically during
MSN Messenger Install.

Some people also like to use both...


What kind of... MSN Messenger is all that is Windows Messenger and
a lot more, you may know better than me!

--
Licantrop0 / HX since 2001
Http: www.tandycenturyfox.com
eMail: licantrop0-at-libero.it
Errare è umano, ma ci salverà una patch.


  #18  
Old August 15th 04, 01:45 AM
Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of connecting to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess, because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Licantrop0" wrote in message .. .
Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

Well Windows Messenger's ability to function is required for the
Whiteboard, Application Sharing and Remote Assistance capability in
MSN Messenger (simply because of how the individual components were
written), so disabling it is somewhat out of the question.


Infact I suggested (also) to hide it from the tray icon and the start menu
or to prevent the startup-load and outlook-load automatically during
MSN Messenger Install.

Some people also like to use both...


What kind of... MSN Messenger is all that is Windows Messenger and
a lot more, you may know better than me!

--
Licantrop0 / HX since 2001
Http: www.tandycenturyfox.com
eMail: licantrop0-at-libero.it
Errare è umano, ma ci salverà una patch.




  #19  
Old August 15th 04, 01:45 AM
Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of connecting to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess, because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Licantrop0" wrote in message .. .
Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

Well Windows Messenger's ability to function is required for the
Whiteboard, Application Sharing and Remote Assistance capability in
MSN Messenger (simply because of how the individual components were
written), so disabling it is somewhat out of the question.


Infact I suggested (also) to hide it from the tray icon and the start menu
or to prevent the startup-load and outlook-load automatically during
MSN Messenger Install.

Some people also like to use both...


What kind of... MSN Messenger is all that is Windows Messenger and
a lot more, you may know better than me!

--
Licantrop0 / HX since 2001
Http: www.tandycenturyfox.com
eMail: licantrop0-at-libero.it
Errare è umano, ma ci salverà una patch.




  #20  
Old August 15th 04, 12:04 PM
Licantrop0
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows
Messenger can do lots of things that MSN Messenger cannot including
it's main feature of connecting to Live Communications Server (it's
primary purpose).


ahhh... live communication!
ok, I had not made attention of that thing, I'm sorry! :P

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a
mess, because it is but it will be cleaned up in the future.


oh, ok! I wanted to know only this

--
Licantrop0 / HX since 2001
Http: www.tandycenturyfox.com
eMail: licantrop0-at-libero.it
Errare è umano, ma ci salverà una patch.


  #21  
Old August 15th 04, 01:39 PM
Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

No problem =)
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Licantrop0" wrote in message .. .
Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows
Messenger can do lots of things that MSN Messenger cannot including
it's main feature of connecting to Live Communications Server (it's
primary purpose).


ahhh... live communication!
ok, I had not made attention of that thing, I'm sorry! :P

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a
mess, because it is but it will be cleaned up in the future.


oh, ok! I wanted to know only this

--
Licantrop0 / HX since 2001
Http: www.tandycenturyfox.com
eMail: licantrop0-at-libero.it
Errare è umano, ma ci salverà una patch.




  #22  
Old August 19th 04, 06:29 AM
Peter Sale
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

So which Messenger is most likely to provide reliable Remote Assistance
connections?
--
Regards,

Peter Sale
Santa Monica, CA USA
To email me, just pull 'my-leg.'

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote ...
Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows

Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of connecting

to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess,

because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.



  #23  
Old August 19th 04, 08:02 AM
Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Hi Peter,

Remote Assistance in both applications are identical with the notable exception being that
you must have Windows Messenger installed in order for the feature to work in MSN Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Peter Sale" wrote in message
...
So which Messenger is most likely to provide reliable Remote Assistance
connections?
--
Regards,

Peter Sale
Santa Monica, CA USA
To email me, just pull 'my-leg.'

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote ...
Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows

Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of connecting

to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess,

because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.





  #24  
Old August 19th 04, 08:34 AM
Kelly
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

Nice tip, Jonathan. I didn't realize that. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hi Peter,

Remote Assistance in both applications are identical with the notable
exception being that you must have Windows Messenger installed in order
for the feature to work in MSN Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Peter Sale" wrote in message
...
So which Messenger is most likely to provide reliable Remote Assistance
connections?
--
Regards,

Peter Sale
Santa Monica, CA USA
To email me, just pull 'my-leg.'

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote ...
Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows

Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of
connecting

to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess,

because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.







  #25  
Old August 19th 04, 04:00 PM
Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

*waves*
___________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Kelly" wrote in message ...
Nice tip, Jonathan. I didn't realize that. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hi Peter,

Remote Assistance in both applications are identical with the notable exception being that
you must have Windows Messenger installed in order for the feature to work in MSN
Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Peter Sale" wrote in message
...
So which Messenger is most likely to provide reliable Remote Assistance
connections?
--
Regards,

Peter Sale
Santa Monica, CA USA
To email me, just pull 'my-leg.'

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote ...
Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows
Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of connecting
to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a mess,
because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.








  #26  
Old August 20th 04, 08:02 AM
Kelly
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Default Why two different messengers, MSN and Windows Messenger?

)

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm



"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message
...
*waves*
___________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Kelly" wrote in message
...
Nice tip, Jonathan. I didn't realize that. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hi Peter,

Remote Assistance in both applications are identical with the notable
exception being that you must have Windows Messenger installed in order
for the feature to work in MSN Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Peter Sale" wrote in message
...
So which Messenger is most likely to provide reliable Remote Assistance
connections?
--
Regards,

Peter Sale
Santa Monica, CA USA
To email me, just pull 'my-leg.'

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote ...
Hi,

MSN Messenger is not a replacement for Windows Messenger; Windows
Messenger can do lots of
things that MSN Messenger cannot including it's main feature of
connecting
to Live
Communications Server (it's primary purpose).

I'm not going to say that the current Messenger situation isn't a
mess,
because it is but it
will be cleaned up in the future.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.










 




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