Too Much Memory

I’m not a perfectionist. I just had the money to create a really nice system, so that’s what I did. I’m not experiencing any performance problems. My programs run great, but I’m sure they could run a little faster and that’s what I’ve been look
ing for. I'll just let the system handle the size of the pagefile.

-Michael

"Unknown" wrote:

Are you merely trying to be a perfectionist or is your system running slow.
For the amount of memory you have your page file is much too small even tho it
probably isn't being used..
"Michael Soland" wrote in message
...
Hi Gerry,

Thanks for recommending some utilities, however, I would prefer and answer
to my question: “is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in
memory?� [First post of this thread].

My pagefile.sys file stays at 102,400KB. I could go lower, but I don’t want
to decrease performance if or when the pagefile needs to increase in size.
Running all sorts of programs and crunching data does not increase the size of
the pagefile.

I’m just looking for a way to get a performance boost. Virtual memory slows
everything down because of the inherent abstraction and IO to a slower medium.
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

You are misinterpreting what you are seeing!

Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties.
The amount of RAM memory is stated on the General tab. It is unlikely that
you have 4,096 mb or 3,506 mb for that matter!

"This is the amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using."
No
it is the amount of disk space set aside for virtual memory. Whether it is
being used is another matter.

The size of pagefile.sys is not an indicator of virtual memory being used.
Allocations of virtual memory are made to applications for their use as
and
when they need it. That does not mean they are using it ( you make this
point yourself ). Read more in the link below:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

The Article above contains a link to a small Pagefile utility created by
Bill James, which measures the pagefile in use:
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/

Page file in use is the key factor. If you are using too much virtual
memory
you may benefit from adding RAM memory. However, we need to know how much
virtual memory you are using and how much RAM you have?

How old is your computer? Was the machine bought with Windows XP installed
or did it come with an earlier version of Windows installed?

Done you have more than one hard drive? Are any drives partitioned?

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
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...
I have 4096 MB of physical memory. My BIOS reports that I have 3506 MB
of
memory. This is a known issue with my motherboard.

There is an easy way to view the amount of virtual memory currently used
by the system. Go to Control Panel-System-Advanced-Performance,
Settings-Advanced-Virtual Memory, Changed. The bottom part of the
window
that pops up will say “Total paging file size for all drives.� This is
the
amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using.

If you want to check this information out yourself, all that you need to
do is find a little file called “pagefile.sys.� This file can live in the
root directory of any hard drive connected to your system. The Virtual
Memory screen described above will tell you which drive it is on. If that’
s
confusing, it is probably at C:\pagefile.sys. To view the file, go to My
Computer-Tools-Folder Options-View. Now select “Display contents of
system folders� and “Show hidden files and folders� and deselect “Hide
protected operating system files.� This will allow you to see
pagefile.sys.
Check its size and poof, you know how much virtual memory your system has
allocated (it is another question altogether if it is using it).

Can somebody answer my original questions please?
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

How much RAM memory? How do you know how much virtual memory is being
used?
There is no utility in Windows XP which gives you virtual memory
usage!
You
need a third party utility to get that information!


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have a beast of a system running Windows XP Pro, when it should
probably
be running Server 2003. I have a problem with too much memory and not
enough
programs to run. The Task Manager reports that my system cruises at
304
MB
of memory used. I know that turning off Virtual Memory is a bad thing,
but
is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in memory?

I'd also like to know if there is a way to associate a certain
program
to
run on a particular processor (in a multi-processor machine) each time
the
program is invoked.

I’m not a perfectionist. I just had the money to create a really nice system, so that’s what I did. I’m not experiencing any performance problems. My programs run great, but I’m sure they could run a little faster and that’s what I’ve been look
ing for. I'll just let the system handle the size of the pagefile.

-Michael

"Unknown" wrote:

Are you merely trying to be a perfectionist or is your system running slow.
For the amount of memory you have your page file is much too small even tho it
probably isn't being used..
"Michael Soland" wrote in message
...
Hi Gerry,

Thanks for recommending some utilities, however, I would prefer and answer
to my question: “is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in
memory?� [First post of this thread].

My pagefile.sys file stays at 102,400KB. I could go lower, but I don’t want
to decrease performance if or when the pagefile needs to increase in size.
Running all sorts of programs and crunching data does not increase the size of
the pagefile.

I’m just looking for a way to get a performance boost. Virtual memory slows
everything down because of the inherent abstraction and IO to a slower medium.
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

You are misinterpreting what you are seeing!

Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties.
The amount of RAM memory is stated on the General tab. It is unlikely that
you have 4,096 mb or 3,506 mb for that matter!

"This is the amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using."
No
it is the amount of disk space set aside for virtual memory. Whether it is
being used is another matter.

The size of pagefile.sys is not an indicator of virtual memory being used.
Allocations of virtual memory are made to applications for their use as
and
when they need it. That does not mean they are using it ( you make this
point yourself ). Read more in the link below:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

The Article above contains a link to a small Pagefile utility created by
Bill James, which measures the pagefile in use:
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/

Page file in use is the key factor. If you are using too much virtual
memory
you may benefit from adding RAM memory. However, we need to know how much
virtual memory you are using and how much RAM you have?

How old is your computer? Was the machine bought with Windows XP installed
or did it come with an earlier version of Windows installed?

Done you have more than one hard drive? Are any drives partitioned?

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have 4096 MB of physical memory. My BIOS reports that I have 3506 MB
of
memory. This is a known issue with my motherboard.

There is an easy way to view the amount of virtual memory currently used
by the system. Go to Control Panel-System-Advanced-Performance,
Settings-Advanced-Virtual Memory, Changed. The bottom part of the
window
that pops up will say “Total paging file size for all drives.� This is
the
amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using.

If you want to check this information out yourself, all that you need to
do is find a little file called “pagefile.sys.� This file can live in the
root directory of any hard drive connected to your system. The Virtual
Memory screen described above will tell you which drive it is on. If that’
s
confusing, it is probably at C:\pagefile.sys. To view the file, go to My
Computer-Tools-Folder Options-View. Now select “Display contents of
system folders� and “Show hidden files and folders� and deselect “Hide
protected operating system files.� This will allow you to see
pagefile.sys.
Check its size and poof, you know how much virtual memory your system has
allocated (it is another question altogether if it is using it).

Can somebody answer my original questions please?
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

How much RAM memory? How do you know how much virtual memory is being
used?
There is no utility in Windows XP which gives you virtual memory
usage!
You
need a third party utility to get that information!


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have a beast of a system running Windows XP Pro, when it should
probably
be running Server 2003. I have a problem with too much memory and not
enough
programs to run. The Task Manager reports that my system cruises at
304
MB
of memory used. I know that turning off Virtual Memory is a bad thing,
but
is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in memory?

I'd also like to know if there is a way to associate a certain
program
to
run on a particular processor (in a multi-processor machine) each time
the
program is invoked.

I’m not a perfectionist. I just had the money to create a really nice system, so that’s what I did. I’m not experiencing any performance problems. My programs run great, but I’m sure they could run a little faster and that’s what I’ve been look
ing for. I'll just let the system handle the size of the pagefile.

-Michael

"Unknown" wrote:

Are you merely trying to be a perfectionist or is your system running slow.
For the amount of memory you have your page file is much too small even tho it
probably isn't being used..
"Michael Soland" wrote in message
...
Hi Gerry,

Thanks for recommending some utilities, however, I would prefer and answer
to my question: “is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in
memory?� [First post of this thread].

My pagefile.sys file stays at 102,400KB. I could go lower, but I don’t want
to decrease performance if or when the pagefile needs to increase in size.
Running all sorts of programs and crunching data does not increase the size of
the pagefile.

I’m just looking for a way to get a performance boost. Virtual memory slows
everything down because of the inherent abstraction and IO to a slower medium.
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

You are misinterpreting what you are seeing!

Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties.
The amount of RAM memory is stated on the General tab. It is unlikely that
you have 4,096 mb or 3,506 mb for that matter!

"This is the amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using."
No
it is the amount of disk space set aside for virtual memory. Whether it is
being used is another matter.

The size of pagefile.sys is not an indicator of virtual memory being used.
Allocations of virtual memory are made to applications for their use as
and
when they need it. That does not mean they are using it ( you make this
point yourself ). Read more in the link below:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

The Article above contains a link to a small Pagefile utility created by
Bill James, which measures the pagefile in use:
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/

Page file in use is the key factor. If you are using too much virtual
memory
you may benefit from adding RAM memory. However, we need to know how much
virtual memory you are using and how much RAM you have?

How old is your computer? Was the machine bought with Windows XP installed
or did it come with an earlier version of Windows installed?

Done you have more than one hard drive? Are any drives partitioned?

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Please tell the newsgroup how any
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have 4096 MB of physical memory. My BIOS reports that I have 3506 MB
of
memory. This is a known issue with my motherboard.

There is an easy way to view the amount of virtual memory currently used
by the system. Go to Control Panel-System-Advanced-Performance,
Settings-Advanced-Virtual Memory, Changed. The bottom part of the
window
that pops up will say “Total paging file size for all drives.� This is
the
amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using.

If you want to check this information out yourself, all that you need to
do is find a little file called “pagefile.sys.� This file can live in the
root directory of any hard drive connected to your system. The Virtual
Memory screen described above will tell you which drive it is on. If that’
s
confusing, it is probably at C:\pagefile.sys. To view the file, go to My
Computer-Tools-Folder Options-View. Now select “Display contents of
system folders� and “Show hidden files and folders� and deselect “Hide
protected operating system files.� This will allow you to see
pagefile.sys.
Check its size and poof, you know how much virtual memory your system has
allocated (it is another question altogether if it is using it).

Can somebody answer my original questions please?
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

How much RAM memory? How do you know how much virtual memory is being
used?
There is no utility in Windows XP which gives you virtual memory
usage!
You
need a third party utility to get that information!


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have a beast of a system running Windows XP Pro, when it should
probably
be running Server 2003. I have a problem with too much memory and not
enough
programs to run. The Task Manager reports that my system cruises at
304
MB
of memory used. I know that turning off Virtual Memory is a bad thing,
but
is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in memory?

I'd also like to know if there is a way to associate a certain
program
to
run on a particular processor (in a multi-processor machine) each time
the
program is invoked.

Yes, you are correct about memory speeds, but if some of that memory is dumped to the disk to free up memory (which is an unnecessary operation for my system), time is wasted dumping that memory to disk and fetching it again at a later time. If there is a
program which "assumes" that it is running on a system with low memory, it might dump some data to disk that it doesn't need to. Disk operations are slow and if you have the memory, you should put all the data you need in memory. Therefore you can expect a
performance increase by making the most of your memory.

-Michael

"Unknown" wrote:

You say you're sure your programs can run faster. How do you know that? If for
example the latency of memory is 6 nano seconds how can you speed it up? What
indications do you have that the programs can run faster?
"Michael Soland" wrote in message
...
I’m not a perfectionist. I just had the money to create a really nice
system, so that’s what I did. I’m not experiencing any performance problems.
My programs run great, but I’m sure they could run a little faster and that’s
what I’ve been looking for. I'll just let the system handle the size of the
pagefile.

-Michael

"Unknown" wrote:

Are you merely trying to be a perfectionist or is your system running
slow.
For the amount of memory you have your page file is much too small even
tho it
probably isn't being used..
"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
Hi Gerry,

Thanks for recommending some utilities, however, I would prefer and
answer
to my question: “is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay
resident in
memory?� [First post of this thread].

My pagefile.sys file stays at 102,400KB. I could go lower, but I don’t
want
to decrease performance if or when the pagefile needs to increase in size.
Running all sorts of programs and crunching data does not increase the
size of
the pagefile.

I’m just looking for a way to get a performance boost. Virtual memory
slows
everything down because of the inherent abstraction and IO to a slower
medium.
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

You are misinterpreting what you are seeing!

Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties.
The amount of RAM memory is stated on the General tab. It is unlikely
that
you have 4,096 mb or 3,506 mb for that matter!

"This is the amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is
using."
No
it is the amount of disk space set aside for virtual memory. Whether
it is
being used is another matter.

The size of pagefile.sys is not an indicator of virtual memory being
used.
Allocations of virtual memory are made to applications for their use
as
and
when they need it. That does not mean they are using it ( you make
this
point yourself ). Read more in the link below:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

The Article above contains a link to a small Pagefile utility created
by
Bill James, which measures the pagefile in use:
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/

Page file in use is the key factor. If you are using too much virtual
memory
you may benefit from adding RAM memory. However, we need to know how
much
virtual memory you are using and how much RAM you have?

How old is your computer? Was the machine bought with Windows XP
installed
or did it come with an earlier version of Windows installed?

Done you have more than one hard drive? Are any drives partitioned?

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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suggested solution worked for you.
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"Michael Soland" wrote in
message
...
I have 4096 MB of physical memory. My BIOS reports that I have 3506
MB
of
memory. This is a known issue with my motherboard.

There is an easy way to view the amount of virtual memory currently
used
by the system. Go to Control Panel-System-Advanced-Performance,
Settings-Advanced-Virtual Memory, Changed. The bottom part of the
window
that pops up will say “Total paging file size for all drives.� This
is
the
amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using.

If you want to check this information out yourself, all that you
need to
do is find a little file called “pagefile.sys.� This file can live in
the
root directory of any hard drive connected to your system. The
Virtual
Memory screen described above will tell you which drive it is on. If
that’
s
confusing, it is probably at C:\pagefile.sys. To view the file, go to
My
Computer-Tools-Folder Options-View. Now select “Display contents
of
system folders� and “Show hidden files and folders� and deselect “Hide
protected operating system files.� This will allow you to see
pagefile.sys.
Check its size and poof, you know how much virtual memory your system
has
allocated (it is another question altogether if it is using it).

Can somebody answer my original questions please?
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Michael

How much RAM memory? How do you know how much virtual memory is
being
used?
There is no utility in Windows XP which gives you virtual memory
usage!
You
need a third party utility to get that information!


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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"Michael Soland" wrote
in
message
...
I have a beast of a system running Windows XP Pro, when it
should
probably
be running Server 2003. I have a problem with too much memory and
not
enough
programs to run. The Task Manager reports that my system cruises
at
304
MB
of memory used. I know that turning off Virtual Memory is a bad
thing,
but
is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in
memory?

I'd also like to know if there is a way to associate a certain
program
to
run on a particular processor (in a multi-processor machine) each
time
the
program is invoked.