Temp folder buildup

I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

pjp wrote:
I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2006/02...lder-properly/

"The really easy way:

Create a Scheduled Task to have your system clean out your
Temp folder and perform other cleanup chores automatically.
If you poke around in the Scheduled Tasks folder, you’ll
see that this option is available with a wizard’s help."

I think I'd rather clean it out manually. And I regularly do.
In the Explorer bar, enter

%temp%

to get there.

Paul

pjp wrote:
I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

CCleaner

In article ,
lid says...

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:16:00 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:57:22 -0300, pjp
wrote:


I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

Ccleaner


+1

I know numerous ways of cleaning it up. Point is, one shouldn't have to
as programs should damn well cleanup after themselves. When I programmed
you took pains to insure this was the case. Now it's like there's no
pride in doing it right anymore. And on top of that it leaves a feeling
the programmers are just plain incompetant or at best withlimited
experience and were never taught "right". No wonder Windows has so many
bugs, backdoors, etc.

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:27:16 -0300 "pjp"
wrote in article

In article ,

I know numerous ways of cleaning it up. Point is, one shouldn't have to
as programs should damn well cleanup after themselves. When I programmed
you took pains to insure this was the case. Now it's like there's no
pride in doing it right anymore. And on top of that it leaves a feeling
the programmers are just plain incompetant or at best withlimited
experience and were never taught "right". No wonder Windows has so many
bugs, backdoors, etc.

I agree, but sometimes programs terminate, for many reasons, before they
can clean up the temp storage they allocated.

My only caution about cleanup programs is that sometimes stuff left in
temp folders is necessary on the next boot. Installation programs--
Windows Update is notorious--leave stuff in temp that gets accessed on
the next boot.

pjp wrote:

I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

No, they don't.

When you programmed, making economical use of resources was probably
considered a lot more important than it generally is today.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

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says...

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:27:16 -0300 "pjp"
wrote in article

In article ,

I know numerous ways of cleaning it up. Point is, one shouldn't have to
as programs should damn well cleanup after themselves. When I programmed
you took pains to insure this was the case. Now it's like there's no
pride in doing it right anymore. And on top of that it leaves a feeling
the programmers are just plain incompetant or at best withlimited
experience and were never taught "right". No wonder Windows has so many
bugs, backdoors, etc.

I agree, but sometimes programs terminate, for many reasons, before they
can clean up the temp storage they allocated.

My only caution about cleanup programs is that sometimes stuff left in
temp folders is necessary on the next boot. Installation programs--
Windows Update is notorious--leave stuff in temp that gets accessed on
the next boot.

That used to be true or least I can remember a time when I noticed this
in some version of Windows years ago but now I think it's not done so
crudely or so vulnerably to "outside" interference.

And a program crashing leaving behind temp files is no surprise, same as
shutting off power by pulling the plug isn't.

pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:27:16 -0300 "pjp"
wrote in article
In article ,
I know numerous ways of cleaning it up. Point is, one shouldn't have to
as programs should damn well cleanup after themselves. When I programmed
you took pains to insure this was the case. Now it's like there's no
pride in doing it right anymore. And on top of that it leaves a feeling
the programmers are just plain incompetant or at best withlimited
experience and were never taught "right". No wonder Windows has so many
bugs, backdoors, etc.
I agree, but sometimes programs terminate, for many reasons, before they
can clean up the temp storage they allocated.

My only caution about cleanup programs is that sometimes stuff left in
temp folders is necessary on the next boot. Installation programs--
Windows Update is notorious--leave stuff in temp that gets accessed on
the next boot.

That used to be true or least I can remember a time when I noticed this
in some version of Windows years ago but now I think it's not done so
crudely or so vulnerably to "outside" interference.

And a program crashing leaving behind temp files is no surprise, same as
shutting off power by pulling the plug isn't.

Some OSes have a pretty clear policy on the "temp" concept,
where the OS cleans it at startup. And that makes it
pretty unambiguous as to how best to manage files in
there.

If Windows had such a policy, we wouldn't have developers
leaving .log files in there during installations. They'd
have to store them somewhere else.

When the policy on %temp% isn't as clear-cut as that,
that's when the user is left to "sweep up after"
the developers. File-locks and all.

Paul

"pjp" wrote in message
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I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

It is now just about money, and not pride. Very prevalent in the USA in most
regards.
The USA is becoming more of a ME society every day.
Pride? About the only pride left is in about how much more money you are
making.
Seems like most people I see are not even aware of you, unless you get in
their way.
Lack of consideration or even awareness of others seems to become more
absent every day.

CCleaner is a good program , but if you need to reboot to finish an install,
don't use it until after a fresh reboot.
--
Buffalo

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:57:22 -0300, pjp wrote:

I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

That's correct -- they don't care.

At least you _can_ empty that (and I do, every day, via my logon
script). But Winsxs is much, much bigger, and the best advice I've
heard is that it should not be messed with.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:05:31 -0400, Paul wrote:

I think I'd rather clean it out manually. And I regularly do.
In the Explorer bar, enter

%temp%

to get there.

Paul

Or just hit the Windows key, type %TMP%, and hit Enter.

(No, that's not a typo. TMP seems to have the same value as TEMP.)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:16:00 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:57:22 -0300, pjp
wrote:


I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

Ccleaner

Not to be unduly harsh, but: what a silly suggestion.

If writing a script is too much effort, and just opening the folder
and deleting everything is too much effort, there's always hitting
the Windows key and typing CLEANMGR.

It never ceases to amaze me that people push third-party tools for
things that can perfectly well be done with native Windows commands.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:44:39 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

What I have done since XP is change the environment in system to point
all temp/tmp files to C:\ temp. 99% of temp files go there and I can see
what was happening. Very rarely do I find any files in the other temp
folders

And how, pray tell, does that address the OP's issue?



--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:05:31 -0400, Paul wrote:

I think I'd rather clean it out manually. And I regularly do.
In the Explorer bar, enter

%temp%

to get there.

Paul

Or just hit the Windows key, type %TMP%, and hit Enter.

(No, that's not a typo. TMP seems to have the same value as TEMP.)

So it does (in XP anyway)! [I've just done a few experiments in a
command box.] It certainly didn't always: in DOS (and I think the 9xs)
they could be different.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

My daughter is appalled by it at all times, but you know you have to appal
your 14-year-old daughter otherwise you're not doing your job as a father. -
Richard Osman to Alison Graham, in Radio Times 2013-6-8 to 14

In message , Charles
Lindbergh writes:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:39:18 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:16:00 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:57:22 -0300, pjp
wrote:


I getting tired of the manual maintenance required.

Can anyone tell me how one's supposed to keep a more or less empty
"temp" folder when it appears IE leaves behind multipule
"dat'xxxx'.tmp" files all the time. Geez, even installing a Gadget
leaves behind a remnant file and way too many others including
installers seem to do the same.

When I programmed that was considered very sloppy programming so why
isn't it ever fixed in some subsequent release?

Do they just not care?

Ccleaner

Not to be unduly harsh, but: what a silly suggestion.

If writing a script is too much effort, and just opening the folder
and deleting everything is too much effort, there's always hitting
the Windows key and typing CLEANMGR.

It never ceases to amaze me that people push third-party tools for
things that can perfectly well be done with native Windows commands.

It never ceases to amaze me when people preface a harsh, condescending post
with: "Not to be unduly harsh" or "With all due respect".

Hey if it trips your trigger and makes you feel superior for a microsecond, by
all means, continue to put your best antisocial foot forward.

You may disagree with the method of presentation (I tend to agree with
you on that), but he has a valid point that there _are_ many third-party
tools (and advocates for them!) that do the same as existing Windows
components. I didn't know CLEAMNGR, for example, though I think I may
have come across it via the GUI route.

Of course, C'Cleaner does (I _think_) a lot _more_ than that, but
certainly that aspect of its functionality was indeed already there.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

My daughter is appalled by it at all times, but you know you have to appal
your 14-year-old daughter otherwise you're not doing your job as a father. -
Richard Osman to Alison Graham, in Radio Times 2013-6-8 to 14