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W7 Search Fails
What has happened? I used to be able to type something to search for
in 'Start', but now I get no results. Same thing when I do a 'Search' in WExplorer (top right). I am running W7 Ultimate Pro. I have tried 'recreating the index' for drive c, but it sits on '0 items indexed' forever. (like - over an hour so far). How can I get my search back? Thanks Big Fred |
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What has happened? I used to be able to type something to search for in 'Start', but now I get no results. Same thing when I do a 'Search' in WExplorer (top right). I am running W7 Ultimate Pro. I have tried 'recreating the index' for drive c, but it sits on '0 items indexed' forever. (like - over an hour so far). How can I get my search back? Thanks Big Fred The Search Indexer features "backoff". If the machine is busy, the Search Indexer stops processing files. Try taking your hands off the mouse, sit back for ten or fifteen minutes, while Task Manager is open as well. And see if the Search Indexer (three processes) are active. You can disable the "backoff" feature. I run my laptop that way. The Search Indexer does not stop on my laptop, if I'm working. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html http://www.mydigitallife.info/disabl...exing-service/ http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28450...is-it-running/ When the Indexer is finished, on my laptop it might indicate that 138000 files were processed. As a rough approximate value. It takes around 3 hours, for the Indexer to completely rebuild the index. Paul |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:16:41 -0400, Paul wrote:
wrote: What has happened? I used to be able to type something to search for in 'Start', but now I get no results. Same thing when I do a 'Search' in WExplorer (top right). I am running W7 Ultimate Pro. I have tried 'recreating the index' for drive c, but it sits on '0 items indexed' forever. (like - over an hour so far). How can I get my search back? Thanks Big Fred The Search Indexer features "backoff". If the machine is busy, the Search Indexer stops processing files. Try taking your hands off the mouse, sit back for ten or fifteen minutes, while Task Manager is open as well. And see if the Search Indexer (three processes) are active. Hi Paul I have done the above, and am looking at Task Manager. Do you know the names of the processes (3) I should be looking for? Since the Indexer window maintains that 0% are indexed, I have no idea if indexing is actually running, or not. Fred You can disable the "backoff" feature. I run my laptop that way. The Search Indexer does not stop on my laptop, if I'm working. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html http://www.mydigitallife.info/disabl...exing-service/ http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28450...is-it-running/ When the Indexer is finished, on my laptop it might indicate that 138000 files were processed. As a rough approximate value. It takes around 3 hours, for the Indexer to completely rebuild the index. Paul |
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Hi Paul I have done the above, and am looking at Task Manager. Do you know the names of the processes (3) I should be looking for? Since the Indexer window maintains that 0% are indexed, I have no idea if indexing is actually running, or not. Fred Examples here. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6-9ad418fb29ec C:\Windows\System32\SearchIndexer.exe C:\Windows\System32\SearchFilterHost.exe C:\Windows\System32\SearchProtocolHost.exe What I discovered in testing, is I can use Task Manager to raise the priority of two of those. The third one appears to die on its own occasionally, and a fresh copy is forked. And as a result, I can't get the task priority on the last one, to stay raised for any significant period of time. I fired up the Windows 7 laptop, to verify that they are present, and selected "rebuild" on the index, to kick it off. The SearchFilterHost.exe is quiet at the moment, the other two are busy. Paul |
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Sir_George wrote:
roger wrote: I used to be able to type something to search for in 'Start', but now I get no results. Same thing when I do a 'Search' in WExplorer (top right). I am running W7 Ultimate Pro. I have tried 'recreating the index' for drive c, but it sits on '0 items indexed' forever. (like - over an hour so far). Have you checked "Services" to see if "Windows Search" is started? And that it is configured for "Automatic (Delayed Start)" to ensure it loads when you boot Windows. |
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Paul wrote:
The Search Indexer features "backoff". If the machine is busy, the Search Indexer stops processing files. Try taking your hands off the mouse, sit back for ten or fifteen minutes, while Task Manager is open as well. And see if the Search Indexer (three processes) are active. Many services are rolled under the collective svchost.exe process, so you don't see them in Task Manager (you only see the svchost.exe process). The loader process maybe exposed outside of svchost.exe so it is visible in Task Manager. However, the default view in Task Manager is to only show processes owned by the Windows account under which the user has logged into. To see the searchindexer.exe process means clicking on the "Show processes from all users". This will show processes that were started by other Windows accounts, like SYSTEM, LOCAL_SERVICE, and NETWORK_SERVICE. searchindexer.exe is loaded by the SYSTEM account, not by the user's account. SysInternals' "Process Explorer" will show under which svchost.exe process the searchindexer.exe service is controlled. Load SysInternals' Process Explorer, find and highlight the SearchIndexer.exe process (rolled under a svchost.exe process), and watch its CPU usage. You can also double-click on the process to show its properties and select the Performance Graph tab. That has the advantage over Task Manager that the process isn't bouncing around in a list as new processes show up or unload. |
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Paul wrote:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6-9ad418fb29ec Not sure how that tells roger how to set/disable the backoff feature. "backoff" isn't even mentioned. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html For Professional and Ultimate editions, you can use the policy editor. For Home editions, there is no policy editor so you have to use the .reg files to update the registry. These are text files so you can look at them in Notepad before double-clicking on them to effect their registry changes. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Paul wrote: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6-9ad418fb29ec Not sure how that tells roger how to set/disable the backoff feature. "backoff" isn't even mentioned. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html For Professional and Ultimate editions, you can use the policy editor. For Home editions, there is no policy editor so you have to use the .reg files to update the registry. These are text files so you can look at them in Notepad before double-clicking on them to effect their registry changes. The link for backoff, was in my previous post. These are the three links in the previous post. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html http://www.mydigitallife.info/disabl...exing-service/ http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28450...is-it-running/ Paul |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:14:53 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
Many services are rolled under the collective svchost.exe process, so you don't see them in Task Manager (you only see the svchost.exe process). The loader process maybe exposed outside of svchost.exe so it is visible in Task Manager. However, the default view in Task Manager is to only show processes owned by the Windows account under which the user has logged into. To see the searchindexer.exe process means clicking on the "Show processes from all users". This will show processes that were started by other Windows accounts, like SYSTEM, LOCAL_SERVICE, and NETWORK_SERVICE. searchindexer.exe is loaded by the SYSTEM account, not by the user's account. SysInternals' "Process Explorer" will show under which svchost.exe process the searchindexer.exe service is controlled. Load SysInternals' Process Explorer, find and highlight the SearchIndexer.exe process (rolled under a svchost.exe process), and watch its CPU usage. You can also double-click on the process to show its properties and select the Performance Graph tab. That has the advantage over Task Manager that the process isn't bouncing around in a list as new processes show up or unload. I am thinking - you gotta be kidding me. Something this difficult to enable or use is really not worth its name. I will miss XP. Fred |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:14:15 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: Consider what it means to service a cow or a mare. LOL! Eeww! I'll refrain from doing that, thank you very much. g |
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roger wrote:
I am thinking - you gotta be kidding me. Something this difficult to enable or use is really not worth its name. I will miss XP. And what would be different in Windows XP for whatever file indexer you used there? Monitoring a service in XP is same as how it's done for 7. |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:09:20 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:14:15 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: Consider what it means to service a cow or a mare. LOL! Eeww! I'll refrain from doing that, thank you very much. g Yeah - part of the problem with a thought like that popping into my head is fighting my natural tendency to visualize what I'm saying :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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