W7 Search Still Fails

Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred

wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred


Pardon me if I jump in and suggest something you've already tried.
Yes, a re-install would solve it, but I shouldn't think that's necessary.

What does Win7 say about it?
Start - Control Panel - Troubleshooting - Indexing Options.
Have a look through the things displayed. Is indexing complete? Are the
locations all ticked?
Click "Troubleshooting search and indexing". Let the wizard troubleshoot
the issue.

That should either solve it or take you closer to the cause of the problem.

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote on 3/26/2014 :
wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred


Pardon me if I jump in and suggest something you've already tried.
Yes, a re-install would solve it, but I shouldn't think that's necessary.

What does Win7 say about it?
Start - Control Panel - Troubleshooting - Indexing Options.

In my W7 Ultimate, Indexing Options is under Control Panel, not Trouble
Shooting. And, Trouble Shooting is under 'trouble shoot search
andindexing' under Advance Options under Index Settings. I selected
'filess do not appear in search results'. That said, it reports it
could not identify the problem and in part suggests I get help from a
friend or from online support.


Have a look through the things displayed. Is indexing complete? Are the
locations all ticked?

As far as I can tell, indexing is never started - even when I try to
redo it.

Click "Troubleshooting search and indexing". Let the wizard troubleshoot the
issue.

That should either solve it or take you closer to the cause of the problem.

Ed

Thanks anyway

Big Fred

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Ed Cryer formulated on Wednesday :
wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred


Pardon me if I jump in and suggest something you've already tried.
Yes, a re-install would solve it, but I shouldn't think that's necessary.

What does Win7 say about it?
Start - Control Panel - Troubleshooting - Indexing Options.
Have a look through the things displayed. Is indexing complete? Are the
locations all ticked?
Click "Troubleshooting search and indexing". Let the wizard troubleshoot the
issue.

That should either solve it or take you closer to the cause of the problem.

Ed

wrote in message
...
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred

Maybe you disabled something, while using MSCONFIG?
Have you tried any of these 476,000,000 links?
https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...rchBox&ie=&oe=

On 3/26/2014 6:11 AM, wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred

MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

ME wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote on 3/26/2014 :
wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred


Pardon me if I jump in and suggest something you've already tried.
Yes, a re-install would solve it, but I shouldn't think that's necessary.

What does Win7 say about it?
Start - Control Panel - Troubleshooting - Indexing Options.

In my W7 Ultimate, Indexing Options is under Control Panel, not Trouble
Shooting. And, Trouble Shooting is under 'trouble shoot search
andindexing' under Advance Options under Index Settings. I selected
'filess do not appear in search results'. That said, it reports it
could not identify the problem and in part suggests I get help from a
friend or from online support.


Have a look through the things displayed. Is indexing complete? Are
the locations all ticked?

As far as I can tell, indexing is never started - even when I try to
redo it.

Click "Troubleshooting search and indexing". Let the wizard
troubleshoot the issue.

That should either solve it or take you closer to the cause of the
problem.

Ed

Thanks anyway

Big Fred



It sounds as if there's no indexing being done; let alone no search.

Have you got the Windows Search service running; automatic (delayed start)?

Ed

Zaidy036 brought next idea :
On 3/26/2014 6:11 AM, wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred

MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to select
a list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall. Still this
is a shame to have to do just because the 'search' no longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the
suggestions posted for this problem found by Googling the topic 'search
failing'. None work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

KCB was thinking very hard :
wrote in message
...
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred

Maybe you disabled something, while using MSCONFIG?
Have you tried any of these 476,000,000 links?
https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...rchBox&ie=&oe=

Many

ME wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote on 3/26/2014 :
wrote:
Starting a new thread:

Ok, since I can't get Search to work in my W7 Ultimate. and I still
want to use some W7 functions such as MSCONFIG and REMOVE PROGRAMS,
etc - how do I do it?

I used to simply enter what I want in the Search Box, hit enter, and
voila, I could choose what I am seeking from the search results. Now
W7 just sits there looking at me.

I have tried rebuilding the index in indexing options, but that just
hangs and does nothing.

If I want to go to System Configuration Utility, is my only choice to
find and execute MSCONFIG.EXE directly? Then how do I uninstall a
program?

I'll betcha if I reinstall W7 fresh, the search will work again, huh?
That would be some work.

Aw geez.

Big Fred


Pardon me if I jump in and suggest something you've already tried.
Yes, a re-install would solve it, but I shouldn't think that's necessary.

What does Win7 say about it?
Start - Control Panel - Troubleshooting - Indexing Options.

In my W7 Ultimate, Indexing Options is under Control Panel, not Trouble
Shooting. And, Trouble Shooting is under 'trouble shoot search
andindexing' under Advance Options under Index Settings. I selected
'filess do not appear in search results'. That said, it reports it
could not identify the problem and in part suggests I get help from a
friend or from online support.


Have a look through the things displayed. Is indexing complete? Are
the locations all ticked?

As far as I can tell, indexing is never started - even when I try to
redo it.

Click "Troubleshooting search and indexing". Let the wizard
troubleshoot the issue.

That should either solve it or take you closer to the cause of the
problem.

Ed

Thanks anyway

Big Fred



OK, go to Programs and Features control panel. Look on the left for
"Turn Windows features on and off".

Indexing Service - Turns the indexing service that was available
in previous versions of Windows, on and off.

Windows Search - Provides content indexing, property caching
and search results for files, email, and other
content.

Try turning off the "Windows Search" one, close and reboot.
Then, turn on the "Windows Search" one. See if a re-installation
fixes it.

Paul

MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to select a
list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall. Still this is a
shame to have to do just because the 'search' no longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the suggestions
posted for this problem found by Googling the topic 'search failing'. None
work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but shouldn't you be using the "Run
Command" instead of search for the misconfig and regedit commands? If you
aren't seeing the Run command in the start menu, go to the Control Panel,
then Taskbar, then Customize start menu and make sure that the box for Run
Command is checked. Once that is done, the Run Command will show up in the
start menu.

Camellia Sinensis explained :


MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to select a
list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall. Still this is a
shame to have to do just because the 'search' no longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the suggestions
posted for this problem found by Googling the topic 'search failing'. None
work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but shouldn't you be using the "Run
Command" instead of search for the misconfig and regedit commands? If you
aren't seeing the Run command in the start menu, go to the Control Panel,
then Taskbar, then Customize start menu and make sure that the box for Run
Command is checked. Once that is done, the Run Command will show up in the
start menu.

Aha - it wasn't checked. Now I can run MSCONFIG as I did in XP. Now
how do I bring up the list of installed apps from which I can do an
uninstall - like I did in XP?

Thanks

Big Fred

Fred wrote:
Camellia Sinensis explained :


MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall
them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to
select a list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall.
Still this is a shame to have to do just because the 'search' no
longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the
suggestions posted for this problem found by Googling the topic
'search failing'. None work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but shouldn't you be using the "Run
Command" instead of search for the misconfig and regedit commands? If
you aren't seeing the Run command in the start menu, go to the Control
Panel, then Taskbar, then Customize start menu and make sure that the
box for Run Command is checked. Once that is done, the Run Command
will show up in the start menu.

Aha - it wasn't checked. Now I can run MSCONFIG as I did in XP. Now
how do I bring up the list of installed apps from which I can do an
uninstall - like I did in XP?

Thanks

Big Fred



Sheesh! You are a beginner in Win7. Don't trust your defeatist attitude
just yet. Follow Paul's advice about a re-installation of the Search
system. And after that (I suggest "as well as that") run a system file
check on your whole system; elevated command prompt, "sfc /scannow".

Control Panel, Program Features will lead you to a list of installed
progs (not "apps").

Ed

"Fred" wrote in message ...

Camellia Sinensis explained :


MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall
them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to select a
list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall. Still this is a
shame to have to do just because the 'search' no longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the suggestions
posted for this problem found by Googling the topic 'search failing'.
None work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but shouldn't you be using the "Run
Command" instead of search for the misconfig and regedit commands? If you
aren't seeing the Run command in the start menu, go to the Control Panel,
then Taskbar, then Customize start menu and make sure that the box for Run
Command is checked. Once that is done, the Run Command will show up in
the start menu.

Aha - it wasn't checked. Now I can run MSCONFIG as I did in XP. Now how
do I bring up the list of installed apps from which I can do an uninstall -
like I did in XP?

Thanks

Big Fred

All of your installed programs can be found in the Control Panel under
"Programs & Features" Make sure that the "view" for your Control Panel (off
to the right side) is large or small icons. For some reason any other views
don't show all that is available in the Control Panel

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:52:37 -0700, Camellia Sinensis wrote:


MSCONFIG is to stop prog from running at boot, NOT used to uninstall them.
UNINSTALL is Prog&Feat in control panel

Yes I know - I 'm sorry I confused my English. I know the difference
between MSCONFIG and UNINSTALL PROGRAMS. I really want to do both
functions as well as others. I have created a desktop shortcut to
msconfig.exe that works. But can't find a way to do the same to select a
list of installed programs from which to do an uninstall. Still this is a
shame to have to do just because the 'search' no longer works.

To other respondant - Yes, I have tried just about all of the suggestions
posted for this problem found by Googling the topic 'search failing'. None
work for me. I'm tired.

Thanks

Big Fred

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but shouldn't you be using the "Run
Command" instead of search for the misconfig and regedit commands? If you
aren't seeing the Run command in the start menu, go to the Control Panel,
then Taskbar, then Customize start menu and make sure that the box for Run
Command is checked. Once that is done, the Run Command will show up in the
start menu.

If you type the command (or even just a few letters of it) in the box at
the bottom of the Start Menu, Windows *searches* for the command. This
is totally normal behavior for Windows 7 (and W8 is similar, in its own
way).

If you look in that box before you type, you can see that it says
(greyed out) "Search programs and files".

OP: try tracking down the executables for those programs and creating
shortcuts to them on the desktop. Then move those to your Programs
folder in

C:\Users\Your Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

That has helped me start them in the above way.

%APPDATA% is a useful abbreviation for the Roaming directory, in case
yours is not where mine is.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)