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  #16  
Old March 8th 06, 06:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964

"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964


Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp



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  #17  
Old March 8th 06, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Ohrn
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964"
wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964

"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964


Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one concerned.
  #18  
Old March 8th 06, 10:18 PM
irene1964 irene1964 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by irene1964
i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one concerned.
sorry i mean appologise...
  #19  
Old March 9th 06, 01:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best Buy!).
Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell.
It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it. But if it
comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade. Otherwise, I'll
think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964

"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964


Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp





  #20  
Old March 9th 06, 03:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key


"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Harry Ohrn Wrote:
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964"
wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via
you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but
still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of
charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have
done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of
letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really
have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in
the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please
do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a
violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one
concerned.


--
irene1964


I realize that you were trying to be helpful. However, as you now know, it
is not legal for you to offer a Product Key, even for free unless the
license agreement for the software says you can do so. In the future you
should check to ensure that what you are doing is OK before you offer it up.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


  #21  
Old March 9th 06, 05:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with the
upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else is
wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied activation
at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
Otherwise, I'll think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964


Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp







  #22  
Old March 9th 06, 06:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

'Jupiter Jones' writing a lot, but thinking little, wrote:
| Actually it is so.
| Read the EULA you already agreed.
| Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
| abide by what has already been agreed.
| The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the
| upgrade CD.
| Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
| particular key was intended for OEM.
| Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
| A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is
| wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
|
| What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
| If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation
| at a later date.
_____

What a terribly unhelpful answer. Think twice, post once.
Not having all the details, you assumed, and went downhill from there.

Phil Weldon

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
| Actually it is so.
| Read the EULA you already agreed.
| Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
| abide by what has already been agreed.
| The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the
| upgrade CD.
| Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
| particular key was intended for OEM.
| Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
| A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is
| wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
|
| What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
| If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation
| at a later date.
|
| --
| Jupiter Jones [MVP]
| http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
| http://www.dts-l.org
|
|
| "jll" wrote in message
| news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
| Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.
For
| some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
| Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
| my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
| But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
| Otherwise, I'll think of something.
| jll
| "Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
| ...
| "irene1964" wrote in message
| ...
|
| Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
| Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
|
| It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
| would give away something worth about $100.
|
| Also, you quoted a very old post.
| Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
| posted recently.
|
|
| That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
| the
| first anniversary of his death.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup
|
|
|
| "irene1964" wrote in message if any
| one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
| i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
|

|
|
| --
| irene1964
| "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
| people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
| is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
| charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
| product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
| person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
making
| money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
| if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
i
| havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
have
| a good day.
|
|
| --
| irene1964
|
| Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
the
| computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
it
| came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
| arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
| software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer
license
| agreement.
|
| --
|
| Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
|
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
|
|
|
|
|
|
|


  #23  
Old March 9th 06, 07:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys already
present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as of
Dec. 05)

As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard to
believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think of
the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result. The
last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key or
CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original key in
hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because the
machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key. Gateway
and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution key
to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.

It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the corporate
key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them and
windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to do
things this way than to change the production process for a relatively few
PC's.

Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also include
encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless you
had an export license or were a direct government employee.

There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key. Some
time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a personal
key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have expired,
and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A call
to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type valid
replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
"mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system it is
currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA revision
that covers the change.

The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be broken
shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement on a
global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with

the
upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else

is
wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied

activation
at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.

For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
Otherwise, I'll think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round

making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!

i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!

have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them

the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that

it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer

license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp









  #24  
Old March 9th 06, 08:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

Chuck
What referenced website?
I never said an upgrade CD would not upgrade an OEM.
But the upgrade CD should not accept the OEM key affixed to the computer.
Since the upgrade was bought at Best Buy, the upgrade is Retail.
OEM and Retail alone make them incompatible, as well as the key affixed to
the computer would be for the full version while the CD is an Upgrade which
also makes the different key incompatible.

It seems from Jlls post, an upgrade CD accepted an OEM key affixed to the
computer "I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell. It took."
If everything is correct, that will not work.
As I already suggested Jll should attempt to resolve this to prevent future
activation problems.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Chuck" wrote in message
...
All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys
already
present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as of
Dec. 05)

As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard to
believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think
of
the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result. The
last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key or
CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original key
in
hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because the
machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key. Gateway
and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution
key
to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.

It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the corporate
key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them and
windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to do
things this way than to change the production process for a relatively few
PC's.

Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also
include
encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless
you
had an export license or were a direct government employee.

There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key. Some
time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a
personal
key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have
expired,
and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A
call
to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type valid
replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
"mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system it
is
currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA revision
that covers the change.

The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be broken
shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement on
a
global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with

the
upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else

is
wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied

activation
at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.

For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side
of
my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
Otherwise, I'll think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short
of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round

making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!

i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!

have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them

the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that

it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer

license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp











  #25  
Old March 9th 06, 08:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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See my post to chuck.
As I have already suggested, Jll should resolve this before there are future
problems.
No one here can resolve this for Jll

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Phil Weldon" wrote in message
ink.net...

What a terribly unhelpful answer. Think twice, post once.
Not having all the details, you assumed, and went downhill from there.

Phil Weldon



  #26  
Old March 9th 06, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Referenced in the beginning of the thread (Not by me.)
http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Chuck
What referenced website?
I never said an upgrade CD would not upgrade an OEM.
But the upgrade CD should not accept the OEM key affixed to the computer.
Since the upgrade was bought at Best Buy, the upgrade is Retail.
OEM and Retail alone make them incompatible, as well as the key affixed to
the computer would be for the full version while the CD is an Upgrade

which
also makes the different key incompatible.

It seems from Jlls post, an upgrade CD accepted an OEM key affixed to the
computer "I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell. It took."
If everything is correct, that will not work.
As I already suggested Jll should attempt to resolve this to prevent

future
activation problems.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Chuck" wrote in message
...
All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys
already
present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as

of
Dec. 05)

As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard

to
believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think
of
the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result.

The
last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key

or
CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original

key
in
hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because

the
machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key.

Gateway
and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution
key
to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.

It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the

corporate
key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them

and
windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to

do
things this way than to change the production process for a relatively

few
PC's.

Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also
include
encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless
you
had an export license or were a direct government employee.

There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key.

Some
time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a
personal
key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have
expired,
and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A
call
to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type

valid
replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
"mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system

it
is
currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA

revision
that covers the change.

The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be

broken
shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement

on
a
global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with

the
upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and

that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something

else
is
wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade

CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied

activation
at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.

For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side
of
my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need

it.
But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
Otherwise, I'll think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short
of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free

of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round

making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the

police!
i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!

have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them

the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer

that
it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer

license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp













  #27  
Old March 10th 06, 02:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default Windows XP Home Edition Product Key

I'm a practical guy. I used the resources I had at hand. If it would not
have worked, I would have taken the software back to Best Buy. Calling M$
would have been the very last resort. And, I have never read a EULA. As I
said before, I hope I never have to reinstall. But if I must, I'll think of
something or I'll ask in newsgroups. The world is full of options. Who
knows, maybe Vista will be out then. Nice thread, BTW.
jll
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade
CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
Otherwise, I'll think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
it came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp









  #28  
Old March 10th 06, 06:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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My guess is Vista will be out mid to late October of this year, in time for
Christmas sales alone and installed on the new computers.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" wrote in message
news:Ze4Qf.811076$x96.554455@attbi_s72...
I'm a practical guy. I used the resources I had at hand. If it would not
have worked, I would have taken the software back to Best Buy. Calling M$
would have been the very last resort. And, I have never read a EULA. As I
said before, I hope I never have to reinstall. But if I must, I'll think
of something or I'll ask in newsgroups. The world is full of options. Who
knows, maybe Vista will be out then. Nice thread, BTW.
jll
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade
CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org



  #29  
Old May 5th 06, 01:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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"irene1964" wrote in message
...

irene1964 Wrote:
i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you..
but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still
trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of
charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have
done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of
letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really
have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in
the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please
do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a
violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one
concerned.

sorry i mean appologise...


--
irene1964


"Apologise", actually. Not to mention "I" (caps, passim), "anyway", "knows",
"they're", "it's", "their", "ain't", "you know", "don't", "I'm" and
"everyone". Also, a fair sprinkling of "," together with use of capitals.

[Couldn't resist!] [And didn't try very hard to...]


 




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