Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Can you get me started on how to connect Android 4.3 to Bluetooth on
Windows 10 because I don't have bluetooth yet.

I looked up how to tell if my Windows 10 desktop has bluetooth and it
doesn't seem to have a bluetooth card based on doing these device tests.
http://blog.drivethelife.com/bluetoo...oth-built.html
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN
(2) To play songs from Android onto the more powerful computer speakers

Since I don't have bluetooth on the desktop, what hardware is best to add?

In article , Dan Jenkins
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

use wifi for file transfer, not bluetooth.

(2) To play songs from Android onto the more powerful computer speakers

since you claim to have a desktop computer, just connect the speakers
directly.

Since I don't have bluetooth on the desktop, what hardware is best to add?

bluetooth dongle if you want bluetooth, but nothing you've listed needs
it.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:59:43 -0400, nospam wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.
USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.
Same with speaker cables.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

This question is just asking advice about which powerful Bluetooth hardware
(make and model) people actually use and like best to connect an Android
device to a Windows PC.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 05:39:51 +0000 (UTC), Dan Jenkins
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:59:43 -0400, nospam wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/

quote
Infrastructure and Ad-Hoc Modes Explained

Most Wi-Fi networks function in infrastructure mode. Devices on the
network all communicate through a single access point, which is
generally the wireless router. For example, let’s say you have two
laptops sitting next to each other, each connected to the same wireless
network. Even when sitting right next to each other, they’re not
communicating directly. Instead, they’re communicating indirectly
through the wireless access point. They send packets to the access point
— probably a wireless router — and it sends the packets back to the
other laptop. Infrastructure mode requires a central access point that
all devices connect to.

Ad-hoc mode is also known as “peer-to-peer” mode. Ad-hoc networks don’t
require a centralized access point. Instead, devices on the wireless
network connect directly to each other. If you set up the two laptops in
ad-hoc wireless mode, they’d connect directly to each other without the
need for a centralized access point.

Ad-hoc mode can be easier to set up if you just want to connect two
devices to each other without requiring a centralized access point. For
example, let’s say you have two laptops and you’re sitting in a hotel
room without Wi-Fi. You can connect them directly with ad-hoc mode to
form a temporary Wi-Fi network without needing a router.
unquote

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/

Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?

Dan Jenkins wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/


Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.
Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?

Wifi works better.

I've never heard of anyone using Bluetooth for transmission
to the basement. It's more suited to running hands free headphones
sitting next to your mobile device.

With Wifi, you should be aware the antenna has a 3D radiation
pattern, and out of the box, will favor the main floor of
the house. In this example, the isotropic antenna lobes shoot
out the sides, and the basement, or the second floor, aren't
getting nearly as much signal. There is a nice tool "4NEC2"
for doing these simulations (I have a TV antenna that the
designer of it, used 4NEC2 for optimization).

http://www.qsl.net/5b4agv/odmd3d10mug.jpg

When you have a Wifi with MIMO (i.e. three antennas),
you can tilt the antennas at different angles to
spew radiation in more directions. This is just
to illustrate the concept. This is a dual band card,
so it's not clear what each antenna is doing with regard
to band.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16833704133

"Pros: Never drops out I get over 130Mpbs
and the modem is in the basement."

Paul

Dne 11.7.2017 v 09:29 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/


Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.
Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?

For both, wifi and BT, there are usable USB dongles serving well.
I would go for the wifi one, as it is more universal,
especially if there is change in future to have a wifi router.

Also, wifi penetration is much better then of BT,
that is intended just for very local devices within few meters.

My phone can locate my home wifi router
in the 7th floor in the block of flats, myself standing outside.
Within the block, it is about 2-3 floors below to see it ( more walls ).

--
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:30 +0000 (UTC), Dan Jenkins
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/

Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?

Given an otherwise equal choice between WiFi and BT, I would lean
strongly toward WiFi.

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:30 +0000 (UTC), Dan
Jenkins wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/

Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

You keep saying card, but i wanted to point out that one that plugs into
a USB port, a dongle I guess it is called, can easily be transferred to
another computer. Sometimes cards can't be transferred at all because
the slots change, PCI, etc. etc.

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?

Wow, I see that wifi dongles are now almost no bigger than BT dongles.
I bought a couple at a hamfest a few years ago and they were as big as
bic lighters.

I also see some have 5 or 6" antennas and some have no visible antenna.
I presume a bigger antenna is better??

Dne 11/07/2017 v 07:39 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN. USB cable is
inconvenient when going from floor to floor.

It was not obvious from the original post the PC is not on LAN.

I got in my other post an impression
you just do not want/are not allowed to connect your Android to LAN.

A good scenario description helps to prevent irrelevant replies.

--
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:16 Poutnik napsal(a):
Dne 11/07/2017 v 07:39 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN. USB cable is
inconvenient when going from floor to floor.

As said in other post, if PC has wifi adapter,
ad-hoc Wifi can be a way to go,
similarly as ad-hoc LAN between 2 off-line PCs is often used.



--
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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Poutnik wrote:


It was not obvious from the original post the PC is not on LAN.

I got in my other post an impression
you just do not want/are not allowed to connect your Android to LAN.

A good scenario description helps to prevent irrelevant replies.

I apologize if I didn't make it clear when I said in the original post
"To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN"
that the question was not going to be solved by joining a LAN.

Allow me to clarify that the question is specific to creating a device to
PC network without joining a LAN and without cabling a wire through floors
(either a speaker cable or a USB cable).

I didn't know about the "Ad-Hoc Mode" of a Wi-Fi card so that gives me two
good answers that should work.

Are these my options?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:29 +0000 (UTC), Dan Jenkins
wrote:

For alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
Poutnik wrote:


It was not obvious from the original post the PC is not on LAN.

I got in my other post an impression
you just do not want/are not allowed to connect your Android to LAN.

A good scenario description helps to prevent irrelevant replies.

I apologize if I didn't make it clear when I said in the original post
"To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN"
that the question was not going to be solved by joining a LAN.

Allow me to clarify that the question is specific to creating a device to
PC network without joining a LAN and without cabling a wire through floors
(either a speaker cable or a USB cable).

I didn't know about the "Ad-Hoc Mode" of a Wi-Fi card so that gives me two
good answers that should work.

Are these my options?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?

Where are you going to find a desktop that can go through floors?

Dne 11.7.2017 v 09:29 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

I apologize if I didn't make it clear when I said in the original post
"To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN"
that the question was not going to be solved by joining a LAN.

Allow me to clarify that the question is specific to creating a device to
PC network without joining a LAN and without cabling a wire through floors
(either a speaker cable or a USB cable).

I didn't know about the "Ad-Hoc Mode" of a Wi-Fi card so that gives me two
good answers that should work.

Are these my options?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?

BT is not intended to go through floors.
It is rather for the direct visibility within few meters
for devices about on the same , or the next table in the room.
Even if you were successfull, the signal could be poor
and the transfer,slow even in ideal conditions,
could suffer due unreliability.

Both wifi and LAN cards ( or external adapters )
are just various hardware and software implementations
of a network at hardware and link layer.

For the both is defined the IP network protocal on the network layer.

In the IP configuration of the desktop,
you switch off the automatic DHCP and DNS
and set manually its IP address, e.g. 192.168.0.1.

Then you can set some dedicated folders of the desktop as shared
and use some android application for exchanging the files.


--
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:29 +0000 (UTC) "Dan Jenkins" djenkins4556
@plusnet.uk wrote in article
Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?

WiFi has more range than bluetooth by far. BT is spec'd for 10 meters max,
'tho it seems to exceed that sometimes.