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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablankhard drive?
Olórin said this on 4/23/2009 9:22 AM:
XP Guy wrote: Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. I agree. Go to bed and get up on the right side.!! |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablankhard drive?
Olórin said this on 4/23/2009 9:22 AM:
XP Guy wrote: Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. I agree. Go to bed and get up on the right side.!! |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
"Olórin" wrote: What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. And you're obviously the arrogant, stuck-up ass hole here. And nice try, by the way, to essentially show that even you can't answer the question. By deflecting the question, you are essentially telling everyone that you can't answer it. "Even I" can't answer the question? Well, you sure as **** can't; but more importantly, you can't even ask politely. Whatever I may have been telling everyone else, the one thing I *was* trying to tell you has clearly gone right over your immature head. So long. |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
"Olórin" wrote: What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. And you're obviously the arrogant, stuck-up ass hole here. And nice try, by the way, to essentially show that even you can't answer the question. By deflecting the question, you are essentially telling everyone that you can't answer it. "Even I" can't answer the question? Well, you sure as **** can't; but more importantly, you can't even ask politely. Whatever I may have been telling everyone else, the one thing I *was* trying to tell you has clearly gone right over your immature head. So long. |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank
Andrew E. wrote:
Actually youre trying to install xp as the "preffered method" instead of a windows explorer installation..You dont install the cd to the hd however,one simply installs xp cd,set the BIOS to boot to xp cdrom as 1st boot priority,hd 2nd (for installation),save & exit BIOS,boot to xp cd (DOS),select install xp, delete the partition,create one,then xp formats & installs auto.The copy cd to hd will only cause a malfunction,also,FAT32 is not a preffered file system,its outdated,use NTFS. Since he has a DOS boot partition, FAT32 is actually REQUIRED! Where have you been? "XP Guy" wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank
Andrew E. wrote:
Actually youre trying to install xp as the "preffered method" instead of a windows explorer installation..You dont install the cd to the hd however,one simply installs xp cd,set the BIOS to boot to xp cdrom as 1st boot priority,hd 2nd (for installation),save & exit BIOS,boot to xp cd (DOS),select install xp, delete the partition,create one,then xp formats & installs auto.The copy cd to hd will only cause a malfunction,also,FAT32 is not a preffered file system,its outdated,use NTFS. Since he has a DOS boot partition, FAT32 is actually REQUIRED! Where have you been? "XP Guy" wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? LOL! I couldn't have said it better! Dontcha know them egos just gotta make thmselves known whether it's relevant or not? :^) Twayne First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? LOL! I couldn't have said it better! Dontcha know them egos just gotta make thmselves known whether it's relevant or not? :^) Twayne First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
Olórin wrote:
XP Guy wrote: Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. Yeah, but you have to admit, there are an awful lot of non-answers here lately plugging up the archives to make searches impossible. I also expect to see responses to the query when I look at a thread; not a bunch of egotistic and even sometimes nacissists just wanting to see themselves in print. The OP has come into the group at a time when those types seem to be crawling out of the walls for every question asked. The only think I really object to is the x-post to so many irrelevant groups, but at least he didn't multi-post, so ... Regards, Twayne |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
Olórin wrote:
XP Guy wrote: Big_Al wrote: So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! Why can't you people just answer the god damn question? First of all, even for win-98, even if the CD is bootable, it was still possible to run setup.exe from DOS and to install 98 from a CD image that was pre-copied to the hard drive. What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. Yeah, but you have to admit, there are an awful lot of non-answers here lately plugging up the archives to make searches impossible. I also expect to see responses to the query when I look at a thread; not a bunch of egotistic and even sometimes nacissists just wanting to see themselves in print. The OP has come into the group at a time when those types seem to be crawling out of the walls for every question asked. The only think I really object to is the x-post to so many irrelevant groups, but at least he didn't multi-post, so ... Regards, Twayne |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
"Olórin" wrote: What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. And you're obviously the arrogant, stuck-up ass hole here. And nice try, by the way, to essentially show that even you can't answer the question. By deflecting the question, you are essentially telling everyone that you can't answer it. Olorin's a good guy. And there was some uncalled for language used. It's a pity it got this far but this group is like that lately which should tell you you're dealing with a bunch of newbies. God=anything thous is always pretty rude & crude, don't you think? Take the high road; you'll be glad you did. HTH, Twayne |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
"Olórin" wrote: What I'm trying to do is to pre-copy the XP cd onto a hard drive that will then be installed into a system that does not have a CD drive and for which may not have any ability to boot from any external device. Does that help you wrap your head around this question? Now can we get back to answering this question? Is there a way I can launch the XP installation process from a hard drive if I pre-copy an XP cd to the drive? Not with that attitude. Understand your frustration to a degree, but you're the supplicant here. And you're obviously the arrogant, stuck-up ass hole here. And nice try, by the way, to essentially show that even you can't answer the question. By deflecting the question, you are essentially telling everyone that you can't answer it. Olorin's a good guy. And there was some uncalled for language used. It's a pity it got this far but this group is like that lately which should tell you you're dealing with a bunch of newbies. God=anything thous is always pretty rude & crude, don't you think? Take the high road; you'll be glad you did. HTH, Twayne |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Yes, and maybe. An actual straight install of XP I think would work; I've done similar things but not exactly what you're trying. A *******ized XP disk supplied OEM may or may not work. I had an Acer with MCE here awhile back that wouldn't allow it; I was trying to make it easy for the user to reinstall because he was, well, just plain stupid if he had to do much more than press a button. It was hard coded somehow to know whether it was seeing a hard drive or an optical drive, something not real hard to tell in code. I'd say try it and see what happens. But be sure your catastrophic recovery methods are all in place, just in case. I think it may work though unless it's a seriously *******ized OEM version. OR, install it somewhere "safe" where it won't mess your production drive should it fail. HTH, Twayne |
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XP Guy wrote:
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Yes, and maybe. An actual straight install of XP I think would work; I've done similar things but not exactly what you're trying. A *******ized XP disk supplied OEM may or may not work. I had an Acer with MCE here awhile back that wouldn't allow it; I was trying to make it easy for the user to reinstall because he was, well, just plain stupid if he had to do much more than press a button. It was hard coded somehow to know whether it was seeing a hard drive or an optical drive, something not real hard to tell in code. I'd say try it and see what happens. But be sure your catastrophic recovery methods are all in place, just in case. I think it may work though unless it's a seriously *******ized OEM version. OR, install it somewhere "safe" where it won't mess your production drive should it fail. HTH, Twayne |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Windows 95 [versions of] was the first Bootable CD.
-- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. "Big_Al" wrote in message ... XP Guy said this on 4/22/2009 10:56 PM: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? If you've been around a while, you might remember the old days of win 95 or win 98 that required a boot floppy to load drivers etc. I think it was win98se that actually made the first bootable CD to install from. If you replicate a win9x boot floppy, that might work. And there are many utility boot CD's like BartPE etc that can be created, but as others have said, if you boot from a CD why not just boot from the Windows XP cd and do it right. All the tools are there! |
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