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October 17th 16, 02:05 AM
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Product Key for Windows Server 2016 Essentials Final Release (Trial Version)
Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here
having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. 
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October 17th 16, 02:34 AM
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Product Key for Windows Server 2016 Essentials Final Release(Trial Version)
On 17/10/2016 02:05, Bob wrote:
After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Why several Clean installs? Are you trying to hack it? I use trial software but I only use one key for one machine and if I need to install on another machine, I request another key. Never seen any problems so far. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. No. The only place to download anything critical such as this is the Official channel on Microsoft web site. -- With over 400 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
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October 17th 16, 05:13 AM
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:05:14 -0400, Bob wrote:
Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. You'll probably have to go with phone support: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13948/global-customer-service-phone-numbers -- -Jeff B. "Excuse me. I don't mean to impose, but I am the Ocean." ~ The Salton Sea
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October 17th 16, 05:13 AM
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Product Key for Windows Server 2016 Essentials Final Release(Trial Version)
Bob wrote:
Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. Did you get the key from here ? https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...uation-center/ "October 14, 2016 at 2:14 pm Thanks for the feedback, I’ve removed the key. Hopefully the eval team get a new key posted shortly." In the Win10 era, it's popular to time-bomb OSes anyway (like, the Insider Edition), so even if you were trying to hack it, the OS will check the "real time" occasionally and age out. Even the Installer DVD will eventually age out (digital signature on winload.exe expires), so you can't even use it to do temporary installs after a while. The only thing that (nominally) runs forever, is the Release version of something. As for sales, you would not expect that to be for sale on Newegg. You would probably buy that from Microsoft directly. I mean, if server software was for sale on Newegg, then we'd know how outrageous the price was :-) And that would be bad P.R. Paul
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October 17th 16, 05:36 AM
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October 17th 16, 06:09 AM
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Product Key for Windows Server 2016 Essentials Final Release (Trial Version)
In article ,
, Dave Doe says... In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , Bob says... Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. It should not require a key. Did you manage to do the full download - believe it or not, Google Chrome is notorious at dropping off on the fairly large (4.63GB) download. It's one of those occasions you should use IE, and Download Manager - it will resume OK. Chrome won't. It just stops, and appears to be complete - but it ain't! In the past, I've downloaded VLSC downloads (full products) and Chrome's downloaded enough to make a DVD (or pendrive), but it's not all there. Boots up fine, but does not install fine! Suggest you re-download using IE. It works. I'm dl'g it right now, and will test install it in Virtualbox - let you know if I'm prompted for a key - but bet it does not. OK, it asked for a product key, I used the one I got from the 'Preinstall Information' area under the product, and it, probably like you, failed with a "We couldn't verify the product key. Please check your installation media". Clearly, Microsoft have a problem with this evaluation version right now. PS: I've carried on with the install without the key. I'll try it again once installed, but I doubt it will take it. -- Duncan.
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October 17th 16, 10:22 AM
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Product Key for Windows Server 2016 Essentials Final Release(Trial Version)
Dave Doe wrote:
In article , , Bob says... Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. It should not require a key. Did you manage to do the full download - believe it or not, Google Chrome is notorious at dropping off on the fairly large (4.63GB) download. It's one of those occasions you should use IE, and Download Manager - it will resume OK. Chrome won't. It just stops, and appears to be complete - but it ain't! In the past, I've downloaded VLSC downloads (full products) and Chrome's downloaded enough to make a DVD (or pendrive), but it's not all there. Boots up fine, but does not install fine! Suggest you re-download using IE. It works. I'm dl'g it right now, and will test install it in Virtualbox - let you know if I'm prompted for a key - but bet it does not. The truncated downloads are a recent issue with the Microsoft CDN. Probably the last year or so. Initially, only one kind of server was doing it, but the problem spread after a while. Users using MediaCreationTool for download, don't see a problem. BITS doesn't seem to have a problem. Browsers seem to have a problem (i.e. for the web pages where a "private" folder is prepared for your ISO download in lieu of you being given a copy of MediaCreationTool). The problem has been seen on: 1) ISO downloads. 2) Large downloads from traditional web page download links. Maybe you're getting a copy of WAIK or WADK or something. The symptoms a 1) Both ends of link are happy, even though the file is truncated. 2) No pattern to truncation length. I was initially hoping there would be some "preferred multiple" for truncated files. There doesn't seem to be one. It's not always, say, a multiple of 1048576 bytes or something. 3) If you use Netscape Navigator 4.76 (yes, ancient software...) with the retry download capability, it sees there is a problem with the download, tries to restart it. The output file (eventually) is *bigger* than the thing you're trying to download. NN4.76 was one of the first browsers that could retry a download that died or was killed. It's totally confused by the situation. Modern browsers do not try to resume the download. When Windows 10 downloads an upgrade DVD, it would normally open one connection. If you disconnect the network cable, shut down the OS in the middle of a download, or otherwise "irritate" the download process, the next time you start the machine, the download may start again (pick up where it left off). But, it will open 20 connections in parallel (checked via TCPView), each connection handling a different portion of the file. My suspicion is, some change was made at the Microsoft CDN server end, to accommodate this behavior, and it's somehow managed to break traditional download tools like your browser. I have used a "Download Manager" application, to open multiple connections on purpose to a Microsoft server. I used that when downloading a 7GB DVD from Microsoft and being told "24 hours remaining". The server would not max the link. I did the math, figured out I needed 8 connections to max the link, used a Download Manager, and the server actually allowed me to do that. I got my download in 3 hours instead of 24 hours. That file was not damaged. As far as I know, this accommodation is "normal" for servers, but maybe Microsoft modified httpd for some reason. In some cases, for popular content, you can run a checksum (use Microsoft FCIV if you don't own a better one), then "Google" the computed hash. If there are no hits, your download is corrupt. If multiple web articles appear, stating the hash is the value you entered, then chances are your download is OK. It's not a strong method of authentication, but I sometimes use it to get a warm feeling about a file. Paul
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October 18th 16, 01:06 AM
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October 18th 16, 01:35 AM
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"Paul" wrote in message ... Dave Doe wrote: In article , , Bob says... Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. It should not require a key. Did you manage to do the full download - believe it or not, Google Chrome is notorious at dropping off on the fairly large (4.63GB) download. It's one of those occasions you should use IE, and Download Manager - it will resume OK. Chrome won't. It just stops, and appears to be complete - but it ain't! In the past, I've downloaded VLSC downloads (full products) and Chrome's downloaded enough to make a DVD (or pendrive), but it's not all there. Boots up fine, but does not install fine! Suggest you re-download using IE. It works. I'm dl'g it right now, and will test install it in Virtualbox - let you know if I'm prompted for a key - but bet it does not. The truncated downloads are a recent issue with the Microsoft CDN. Probably the last year or so. Initially, only one kind of server was doing it, but the problem spread after a while. Users using MediaCreationTool for download, don't see a problem. BITS doesn't seem to have a problem. Browsers seem to have a problem (i.e. for the web pages where a "private" folder is prepared for your ISO download in lieu of you being given a copy of MediaCreationTool). The problem has been seen on: 1) ISO downloads. 2) Large downloads from traditional web page download links. Maybe you're getting a copy of WAIK or WADK or something. The symptoms a 1) Both ends of link are happy, even though the file is truncated. 2) No pattern to truncation length. I was initially hoping there would be some "preferred multiple" for truncated files. There doesn't seem to be one. It's not always, say, a multiple of 1048576 bytes or something. 3) If you use Netscape Navigator 4.76 (yes, ancient software...) with the retry download capability, it sees there is a problem with the download, tries to restart it. The output file (eventually) is *bigger* than the thing you're trying to download. NN4.76 was one of the first browsers that could retry a download that died or was killed. It's totally confused by the situation. Modern browsers do not try to resume the download. When Windows 10 downloads an upgrade DVD, it would normally open one connection. If you disconnect the network cable, shut down the OS in the middle of a download, or otherwise "irritate" the download process, the next time you start the machine, the download may start again (pick up where it left off). But, it will open 20 connections in parallel (checked via TCPView), each connection handling a different portion of the file. My suspicion is, some change was made at the Microsoft CDN server end, to accommodate this behavior, and it's somehow managed to break traditional download tools like your browser. I have used a "Download Manager" application, to open multiple connections on purpose to a Microsoft server. I used that when downloading a 7GB DVD from Microsoft and being told "24 hours remaining". The server would not max the link. I did the math, figured out I needed 8 connections to max the link, used a Download Manager, and the server actually allowed me to do that. I got my download in 3 hours instead of 24 hours. That file was not damaged. As far as I know, this accommodation is "normal" for servers, but maybe Microsoft modified httpd for some reason. In some cases, for popular content, you can run a checksum (use Microsoft FCIV if you don't own a better one), then "Google" the computed hash. If there are no hits, your download is corrupt. If multiple web articles appear, stating the hash is the value you entered, then chances are your download is OK. It's not a strong method of authentication, but I sometimes use it to get a warm feeling about a file. Paul Paul, Based on the possibility that the file may be corrupt (but I don't think so) I am doing another download using IE-11 again and compare downloads. The download takes about 11 min for just over 4.3GB on FIOS (50/50MB link) and it's rock solid. From what I'm reading in the MS forums is that others are having the same problem plus one other individual here has posted he's seeing the same. Weird that MS would make an announcement like this, send out emails and then screw it up. Just finished and I compared todays download (4,580,734KB) with one from 12 Oct and they match. Thanks for your input, Bob S.
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October 18th 16, 09:01 PM
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:06:42 -0400, "Bob"
wrote: "Dave Doe" wrote in message ... In article , , Bob says... Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. It should not require a key. Did you manage to do the full download - believe it or not, Google Chrome is notorious at dropping off on the fairly large (4.63GB) download. It's one of those occasions you should use IE, and Download Manager - it will resume OK. Chrome won't. It just stops, and appears to be complete - but it ain't! In the past, I've downloaded VLSC downloads (full products) and Chrome's downloaded enough to make a DVD (or pendrive), but it's not all there. Boots up fine, but does not install fine! Suggest you re-download using IE. It works. I'm dl'g it right now, and will test install it in Virtualbox - let you know if I'm prompted for a key - but bet it does not. I just installed WS 2016 in a VM to test. It did not ask for a key during install but needs one to activate. There was no watermark on desktop before activation. I used the following key and it activated: Server Standard/StandardCo WC2BQ-8NRM3-FDDYY-2BFGV-KHKQY You can also use Microsoft Toolkit to hactivate. Works every time. I also have this key Server Datacenter/DatacenterCore : CB7KF-BWN84-R7R2Y-793K2-8XDDG but have not tried it. -- JT
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October 18th 16, 09:20 PM
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:01:16 -0700, Justin Tyme
wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:06:42 -0400, "Bob" wrote: "Dave Doe" wrote in message ... In article , , Bob says... Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. It should not require a key. Did you manage to do the full download - believe it or not, Google Chrome is notorious at dropping off on the fairly large (4.63GB) download. It's one of those occasions you should use IE, and Download Manager - it will resume OK. Chrome won't. It just stops, and appears to be complete - but it ain't! In the past, I've downloaded VLSC downloads (full products) and Chrome's downloaded enough to make a DVD (or pendrive), but it's not all there. Boots up fine, but does not install fine! Suggest you re-download using IE. It works. I'm dl'g it right now, and will test install it in Virtualbox - let you know if I'm prompted for a key - but bet it does not. I just installed WS 2016 in a VM to test. It did not ask for a key during install but needs one to activate. There was no watermark on desktop before activation. I used the following key and it activated: Server Standard/StandardCo WC2BQ-8NRM3-FDDYY-2BFGV-KHKQY You can also use Microsoft Toolkit to hactivate. Works every time. I also have this key Server Datacenter/DatacenterCore : CB7KF-BWN84-R7R2Y-793K2-8XDDG but have not tried it. I don't know if that will work for you as I have the full MSDN Windows Server 2016 and you have the Essentials trial version. You can give it a try. -- JT
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October 18th 16, 11:26 PM
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:05:14 -0400, "Bob"
wrote: Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. The only place that I can find this, other than MS, is at a torrent site which is fine as long as the hashes are correct. The hashes do match the iso available through MS so it is genuine. I have a copy from MS and I downloaded the torrent to compare. The hashes are the same for both, so the iso from the torrent site is untouched and genuine. CRC-32: 4435b287 MD4: d69bc954704ef66a5432ec784b94edf3 MD5: 311afcb8b9be9abdba7dd135f844ec2d SHA-1: 1868fe4989c81c6d9e2c625919e2906748a6f542 The WSE 2016 MSDN iso is available via torrent at https://thepiratebay.bid/torrent/160...ched.X21-22843 If you do download it the serial numbers that I posted are valid. -- JT
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October 22nd 16, 02:03 AM
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"Justin Tyme" wrote in message ... On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:05:14 -0400, "Bob" wrote: Since WSE 2016 is built on Win10 and I'm sure there must be some others here having the same problem, thought I would ask my questions here. There are no news groups for this and the MS forums don't have an answer. Was notified that the release of WSE2016 was available for download last week. With that they provide a product key good for 180 days so you can evaluate the software. After several clean installs on different hardware, I find the problem is consistent and it will not activate using the trial key. Without activation, you have limited capabilities which sort of negates the evaluation experience. Anyone here found a different key or iso image of the final release that works? I can't even find WSE 2016 for sale anyplace yet either but yet the email said it had been released. Thanks, Bob S. The only place that I can find this, other than MS, is at a torrent site which is fine as long as the hashes are correct. The hashes do match the iso available through MS so it is genuine. I have a copy from MS and I downloaded the torrent to compare. The hashes are the same for both, so the iso from the torrent site is untouched and genuine. CRC-32: 4435b287 MD4: d69bc954704ef66a5432ec784b94edf3 MD5: 311afcb8b9be9abdba7dd135f844ec2d SHA-1: 1868fe4989c81c6d9e2c625919e2906748a6f542 The WSE 2016 MSDN iso is available via torrent at https://thepiratebay.bid/torrent/160...ched.X21-22843 If you do download it the serial numbers that I posted are valid. -- JT Justin, Thanks for the effort - appreciate you taking the time to look into this and posting. I am using Essentials but I will load it in a VM also and try your standard key just for the heck of it. MS did post a new key for WSE 2016.... NCPR7-K6YH2-BRXYM-QMPPQ-3PF6X and it works. Thanks to all for some great advice and for your time. Bob S.
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