Removing Roxio

I had an XP installation mainly used to run a legacy slide scanner that
only works on a 32bit version of Windows.

I was going to upgrade it to Vista then Win7 but only managed to get as
far as Vista. It's working and I can just leave it that way but there is
one bit of trivia I'd like to manage.

Before I could upgrade to Vista I had to first uninstall Roxio CD Burner
due to the upgrader seeing it as imcompatable.


The Roxio uninstaller was not working so I manually deleted /every/
Roxio folder and removed /every/ Roxio reference in the registry. (I
used a registry cleaner first, then manually deleted the rest.)

Now, when I boot to Vista I get a message that a "driver was blocked due
to imcompatability."


When I look at "details" all it says is "CD recording software Roxio."

Location "unknown"


Though this is rather unimportant I'd still like to trace down and
remove this annoying "driver."

philo wrote:
Now, when I boot to Vista I get a message that a "driver was blocked due
to imcompatability."

When I look at "details" all it says is "CD recording software Roxio."

Location "unknown"

Though this is rather unimportant I'd still like to trace down and
remove this annoying "driver."

I would check in Device manager in the Driver tab section or remove the
device in the manager and let Win put it back.

Start/ CP/ System/ Device manager/ DVD-CDROM drives/ (select your
device) R click for Properties and examine the drivers tab


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On 05/16/2017 09:14 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-05-16 10:03, Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
Now, when I boot to Vista I get a message that a "driver was blocked due
to imcompatability."

When I look at "details" all it says is "CD recording software
Roxio."

Location "unknown"

Though this is rather unimportant I'd still like to trace down and
remove this annoying "driver."

I would check in Device manager in the Driver tab section or remove the
device in the manager and let Win put it back.

Start/ CP/ System/ Device manager/ DVD-CDROM drives/ (select your
device) R click for Properties and examine the drivers tab

And next time use Revo or similar 3rd party uninstaller. It does a much
better job of removing every folder etc than you can.




Good idea, it left behind a LOT of registry entries

On 05/16/2017 09:03 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
Now, when I boot to Vista I get a message that a "driver was blocked due
to imcompatability."

When I look at "details" all it says is "CD recording software Roxio."

Location "unknown"

Though this is rather unimportant I'd still like to trace down and
remove this annoying "driver."

I would check in Device manager in the Driver tab section or remove the
device in the manager and let Win put it back.

Start/ CP/ System/ Device manager/ DVD-CDROM drives/ (select your
device) R click for Properties and examine the drivers tab





Thank you genius ...that was it!


Don't think I would have figured that one out ever.


I took a look as you said then removed a couple of win2k drivers from
the system32/ drivers folder.


The XP installation had been upgraded from win2k a very long time ago.

The win2k drivers were fine for XP but not for Vista.


I suppose if I tried to upgrade to Win7 it might even work now but I'm
leaving it alone now.

philo wrote:
I suppose if I tried to upgrade to Win7 it might even work now but I'm
leaving it alone now.

I have an old machine with low resources that performs much better with
Win7 than Vista.

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On 16/5/2017 9:21 PM, philo wrote:
I had an XP installation mainly used to run a legacy slide scanner that
only works on a 32bit version of Windows.

I was going to upgrade it to Vista then Win7 but only managed to get as
far as Vista. It's working and I can just leave it that way but there is
one bit of trivia I'd like to manage.

Did you try using compatibility mode to run the setup.exe of the driver
in Win 7? It might work....

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On 05/16/2017 10:32 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
I suppose if I tried to upgrade to Win7 it might even work now but I'm
leaving it alone now.

I have an old machine with low resources that performs much better with
Win7 than Vista.




Once I get rid of the eye candy and set for best performance Vista seems
to be a bit lighter than Win7 but not by much.

Since I spent a lot of time fooling with this, I may say "good enough"
for now.

My main machine runs Linux but I decided to use one of my old machines
in my workshop and was going to put the XP drive in my newer machine but
it would not boot.

I then put the drive back in the original machine and started the
upgrade to Vista.

At the reboot point I put it in my newer machine and other than the
Roxio problem, the Vista upgrade worked.

So now I can dual boot Ubuntu or Vista

On 05/16/2017 11:06 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 16/5/2017 9:21 PM, philo wrote:
I had an XP installation mainly used to run a legacy slide scanner
that only works on a 32bit version of Windows.

I was going to upgrade it to Vista then Win7 but only managed to get
as far as Vista. It's working and I can just leave it that way but
there is one bit of trivia I'd like to manage.

Did you try using compatibility mode to run the setup.exe of the driver
in Win 7? It might work....




I was not trying to install a driver, I was trying the find the location
of the one(s) I needed to remove.

Thanks to Mike Easter I found it.


I am usually pretty good at figuring things out but this one really had
me stumped.

philo wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:

I have an old machine with low resources that performs much better with
Win7 than Vista.

Once I get rid of the eye candy and set for best performance Vista seems
to be a bit lighter than Win7 but not by much.

It turns out that better performance I mentioned was comparing OEM Vista
including bloat untrimmed vs (experimental) Tiny7 leaned out. Not a fair
comparison.

Since I spent a lot of time fooling with this, I may say "good enough"
for now.

My main machine runs Linux but I decided to use one of my old machines
in my workshop and was going to put the XP drive in my newer machine but
it would not boot.

I then put the drive back in the original machine and started the
upgrade to Vista.

At the reboot point I put it in my newer machine and other than the
Roxio problem, the Vista upgrade worked.

So now I can dual boot Ubuntu or Vista

Which Ub and which DE did you choose? I've been twiddling around
comparing the 17.04 flavors Unity Kub Mate Gnome XFCE and Lub since
unity is on its way out and gnome is the newly chosen flagship for the
future. Altho' I'm not a unity fan, I would like to see some community
effort keep that DE alive. Also continue to develop the community
Cinnamon for Ub.

The cinnamon in 17.04 repos is 3.2.7 while there are a number of
cinnamon .ppa/s for Ub with 3.4. I would assume that Mint would do the
best job with integrating cinnamon, but Ub's Mate is pretty nice.


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On 5/16/2017 5:41 PM, philo wrote:

Thanks to Mike Easter I found it.

Mike Easter is almost as helpful as YOU are, Philo! ;-)

On 16/05/2017 14:21, philo wrote:



I'd still like to trace down and remove this annoying "driver."


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On 05/16/2017 11:58 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
philo wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:

I have an old machine with low resources that performs much better with
Win7 than Vista.

Once I get rid of the eye candy and set for best performance Vista seems
to be a bit lighter than Win7 but not by much.

It turns out that better performance I mentioned was comparing OEM Vista
including bloat untrimmed vs (experimental) Tiny7 leaned out. Not a fair
comparison.


With a bit of tweaking , Vista is not really bad.

Since I spent a lot of time fooling with this, I may say "good enough"
for now.

My main machine runs Linux but I decided to use one of my old machines
in my workshop and was going to put the XP drive in my newer machine but
it would not boot.

I then put the drive back in the original machine and started the
upgrade to Vista.

At the reboot point I put it in my newer machine and other than the
Roxio problem, the Vista upgrade worked.

So now I can dual boot Ubuntu or Vista

Which Ub and which DE did you choose? I've been twiddling around
comparing the 17.04 flavors Unity Kub Mate Gnome XFCE and Lub since
unity is on its way out and gnome is the newly chosen flagship for the
future. Altho' I'm not a unity fan, I would like to see some community
effort keep that DE alive. Also continue to develop the community
Cinnamon for Ub.

The cinnamon in 17.04 repos is 3.2.7 while there are a number of
cinnamon .ppa/s for Ub with 3.4. I would assume that Mint would do the
best job with integrating cinnamon, but Ub's Mate is pretty nice.





I am using a default Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome shell

In general I stay only with the LTS versions.


My experience has been starting out with RedHat 5.2 back around the year
2000. It was an excellent learning experience but I only used Linux on a
part time basis.

Through the years I've tried many different versions but somewhere
around Ubuntu 9.04 decided that I liked Ubuntu best and by version 10.04
I was using it as my main OS.

I performed a fresh install with 12.04 as I moved from a 32 bit version
to 64 bit and upgraded incrementally ever since.

(I only upgraded to the non-LTS versions for the purpose of next upgrade
to the LTS version.


I did once give KDE a try but it worked horribly.

The only time I used it at all was years ago when I used Slackware for a
brief period of time.

philo wrote:
I am using a default Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome shell

Gnome and KDE went through much growing pains as they evolved their
versions and toolkits. In a way those Gnome growing pains were helpful
as they boosted the development of Cinnamon and Mate as well as
introducing more people to XFCE. That was good for 'everyone' including
gnome.

In general I stay only with the LTS versions.

Yes; that is a good strategy for installs and it has served Mint well
for following in Ub's footsteps.

(I only upgraded to the non-LTS versions for the purpose of next upgrade
to the LTS version.

I like to sample the non-LTS as live to see how the DEs are evolving.

I did once give KDE a try but it worked horribly.

KDE had the same but different growing pains from Gnome; it is doing
better all the time. If one were going to sample the latest KDE running
on a Ub, I would recommend out J. Riddell's Neon. Riddell knows KDE and
how to put it together with Ub, as he was a longtime main Kub developer
and is putting the latest KDE on LTS Ub. And, the current Kub 17.04 is
also in good shape.

Linux DEs are doing better and better on many fronts.


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On 05/16/2017 11:59 AM, David B. wrote:
On 5/16/2017 5:41 PM, philo wrote:

Thanks to Mike Easter I found it.

Mike Easter is almost as helpful as YOU are, Philo! ;-)



He's very bright, that one was beyond me

The driver that Windows blocked due to "possible instability" was
cdr4_2k.sys


If I remove the file from system32/drivers the machine boots up with no
error message but the DVD is not working nor does it show up in windows
explorer...so I had to put it back.


The other day I found a Vista machine in the junk pile so I have another
Vista system to compare it to and it does not have the same drivers.


the only common driver is cdrom.sys


Since I expect to use Vista very rarely I guess I'll just live with the
error message.


I still am curious as to how windows actually loads those drivers