tip: chrome and pdf

Hi All,


I have an interesting one to share.

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

The problem was that Chrome's PDF Viewer is too stripped
and IE was sending her to Acrobat Reader.

So I googled how to switch and got TON and TONS of
hit about using `chromelugins`. Problem, it
did not open.

I eventually found that `aboutlugins` was "depreciated"
by googling the error message not how to do it and finally
got a single hit. Lesson learned on how to google.
She is now on Acrobat Reader and is happy.

-T

My Notes:

How to manage plugins in Chrome now that `aboutlugins`
has been depreciated, PDF Reader, Flash, etc.:

-- Settings ( â‹® )
-- Show advanced settings
-- Privacy
-- Content settings

PDF is at the bottom

T wrote:

Hi All,

I have an interesting one to share.

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

The problem was that Chrome's PDF Viewer is too stripped
and IE was sending her to Acrobat Reader.

So I googled how to switch and got TON and TONS of
hit about using `chromelugins`. Problem, it
did not open.

I eventually found that `aboutlugins` was "depreciated"
by googling the error message not how to do it and finally
got a single hit. Lesson learned on how to google.
She is now on Acrobat Reader and is happy.

-T

My Notes:

How to manage plugins in Chrome now that `aboutlugins`
has been depreciated, PDF Reader, Flash, etc.:

-- Settings ( â‹® )
-- Show advanced settings
-- Privacy
-- Content settings

PDF is at the bottom

Google discontinued plug-in support about a year ago. The PDF viewers
that rely on a plug-in to integrate with the web browser won't work.
The PDF viewer built into Google Chrome is too limp. I don't use it. I
use PDFxchange Editor as my PDF handler and that's in what I want to
view PDFs.

Google Chrome does not pass the file (.pdf) to whatevever is the MIME
handler for that filetype. Firefox still does. In Google Chrome, when
I get a .pdf file, I have to download it and then open it (using the
handler for PDF files). In Firefox, I can have it download and offload
the doc to the filetype handler for PDFs. In Google Chrome, I have to
do 2 steps: download & [manual] open. In Firefox, it's 1 step: download
(and it passes to handler for an auto-open).

For Google Chrome, I have to download and then open. That means the
..pdf file lingers on my computer and I have to remember to clean out the
default download folder. With Firefox, the file gets downloaded but it
is a temporary file (in the web browser's TIF cache) and passed to the
MIME handler for PDFs. When I exit the PDF viewer, and later when the
web browser's TIF cache gets purged, that temp file disappears.

PDFs in Google Chrome are a pain compared to Firefox. Both no longer
allow plug-ins but Firefox can be configured to pass the doc to the PDF
MIME handler (which, in my case, is PDFxchange Editor so that's what
shows up in Firefox's Applications list).

On 22/05/2017 23:59, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have an interesting one to share.

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

At the bottom of the Chrome print dialogue there is the option to use
the system dialogue CTRL+SHIFT+P or click on the link.

--
Ray
UK

On 05/22/2017 07:09 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

Hi All,

I have an interesting one to share.

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

The problem was that Chrome's PDF Viewer is too stripped
and IE was sending her to Acrobat Reader.

So I googled how to switch and got TON and TONS of
hit about using `chromelugins`. Problem, it
did not open.

I eventually found that `aboutlugins` was "depreciated"
by googling the error message not how to do it and finally
got a single hit. Lesson learned on how to google.
She is now on Acrobat Reader and is happy.

-T

My Notes:

How to manage plugins in Chrome now that `aboutlugins`
has been depreciated, PDF Reader, Flash, etc.:

-- Settings ( â‹® )
-- Show advanced settings
-- Privacy
-- Content settings

PDF is at the bottom

Google discontinued plug-in support about a year ago. The PDF viewers
that rely on a plug-in to integrate with the web browser won't work.
The PDF viewer built into Google Chrome is too limp. I don't use it. I
use PDFxchange Editor as my PDF handler and that's in what I want to
view PDFs.

Google Chrome does not pass the file (.pdf) to whatevever is the MIME
handler for that filetype. Firefox still does. In Google Chrome, when
I get a .pdf file, I have to download it and then open it (using the
handler for PDF files). In Firefox, I can have it download and offload
the doc to the filetype handler for PDFs. In Google Chrome, I have to
do 2 steps: download & [manual] open. In Firefox, it's 1 step: download
(and it passes to handler for an auto-open).

For Google Chrome, I have to download and then open. That means the
.pdf file lingers on my computer and I have to remember to clean out the
default download folder. With Firefox, the file gets downloaded but it
is a temporary file (in the web browser's TIF cache) and passed to the
MIME handler for PDFs. When I exit the PDF viewer, and later when the
web browser's TIF cache gets purged, that temp file disappears.

PDFs in Google Chrome are a pain compared to Firefox. Both no longer
allow plug-ins but Firefox can be configured to pass the doc to the PDF
MIME handler (which, in my case, is PDFxchange Editor so that's what
shows up in Firefox's Applications list).



Hi Vanguard,

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

-T

If I actually help you with something, I will be strutting
for hours.

On 05/22/2017 07:16 PM, musika wrote:
On 22/05/2017 23:59, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have an interesting one to share.

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

At the bottom of the Chrome print dialogue there is the option to use
the system dialogue CTRL+SHIFT+P or click on the link.


Interesting! I don't think I could get my customer to do
it. They are typically have very low skill levels. (I
spend about 1/3 of my time with them teaching. Apparently,
my colleagues don't, so I a become very popular very quickly.)

Thank you!

T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.

En el artículo , T
escribió:

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

I think Chrome uses its own print dialog. If you hold down Shift while
clicking on the print icon, you should get the normal system printer
dialog, which then presumably would have the options she needs.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

On 05/23/2017 02:33 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.


Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.

On 05/23/2017 10:27 AM, T wrote:
On 05/23/2017 02:33 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.


Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.

I prefer Firefox over Chrome too, but I will use
Chrome when I have to.

On 05/23/2017 07:36 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , T
escribió:

A customer switched overt the Crome rfom IE. When she went to
print PDF's, the print dialog would not allow her to select
her print tray and options.

I think Chrome uses its own print dialog. If you hold down Shift while
clicking on the print icon, you should get the normal system printer
dialog, which then presumably would have the options she needs.


Great tip. Thank you!

On Tue, 23 May 2017 10:27:42 -0700, T wrote:

On 05/23/2017 02:33 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.


Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.


Same here. As far as I'm concerned, that's far and away the worst
possible way to do e-mail.

T wrote:

T wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail directly
into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check my
directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.

Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.

I prefer Firefox over Chrome too, but I will use Chrome when I have
to.

Firefox has been getting progressively slower, even to load (and I use
about:blank as my home page), since version 49. It may have been
getting slower before that but the change was small. No, not just me
but others I know have also remarked it is getting slower. Mozilla been
putzing around with making major changes to catch up on their lag
compared to other web browsers: disable plug-ins, discard XUL and go to
web extensions (which Chromium uses), toss the menu bar and go to the
menu drop-down list (like Chrome), requires signed add-ons, removing
options from the config UI requiring to delve into about:config and then
discarding the option altogether, and going multi-process (8+ years
late) with Electrolysis (e10s) which is more piggish with just 1 process
for chrome and 1 for ALL tabs than is Chrome with 1 chrome process and
one process for each tab. And they still have their ages old problem
that exiting Firefox doesn't necessarily unload all its processes which
interferes with the next load of Firefox (less often in their 64-bit
version but still happens) -- a problem that I've yet to encounter in
Chrome. They are going to change to a different rendering engine: from
Gecko to Servo (programmed in Mozilla's Rust language) using WebRender
for faster rendering and Quantum to supposedly eliminate conflict with
the video driver. They added WebAssembly, an emerging standard from
Mozilla. Firefox has recently become and will continue to be for a
while a maelstrom of major changes. Rather than dump all that work into
Firefox, they should move forward with a new named web browser (well,
they should be called web clients since they don't just browse anymore).

Google Chrome has flaws, too, but, geez, does it load about:blank faster
and every page I go to. Yet Google are such dumbasses regarding
usability. I have to install an add-on to make new tabs come to the
front (get focus) when clicking on a hyperlink rather than load in the
background. I need an add-on to get back using Backspace to move back
through history because Google took away that key in v52. Why? Users
sometimes lost data in web forms when they mistakeningly hit the
Backspace key. That add-on is from Google to return what Google took
away. They couldn't be bothered to leave in the code and simply add a
user config option to select Backspace or Alt+LeftArrow as the history
back action. The add-on will refuse to move back when, for example,
there is input in an input element -- so why couldn't they merge that
code with what was already in Chrome for the Backspace key mapping? So
there are deficiencies and stupidities in Chrome and it has to get
locked down and is less configurable than Firefox yet I've had to move
to it. I really miss the inbuilt configurability of Firefox but speed
is addictive. When I have to use Firefox, geez, wait. I feel like Judy
Hopps at the DMV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVDN3M_hc8).

I thought it must be just me until I started hearing more coworkers,
friends, and other users complaining about Firefox getting slower.
Yeah, I've tried all the troubleshooting: name something and I've done
it. In the past, Firefox has had ups and down with performance but
they've been temporary. This has been worse since about Oct 2016 so
it's not just a momentary hiccup, and more severe changes are coming.

On 05/23/2017 11:06 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 10:27:42 -0700, T wrote:

On 05/23/2017 02:33 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail
directly into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check
my directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.


Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.


Same here. As far as I'm concerned, that's far and away the worst
possible way to do e-mail.


I'd say, second worst. Outlook has to be the worst.
Migrating and maintaining the thing is a nightmare.
All the data goes into one file. If it gets hosed,
you are toast. And you can't just pick up a profile
from one machine and transfer it to another as you
can with Thunderbird. But the users seem to go with it.

Tip: make sure your Outlook customers are on iMap.
It is a lot easier to export your contracts and
calendar, then reimport them on a new machine and let
iMap do the rest.

On 05/23/2017 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

T wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail directly
into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check my
directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.

Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.

I prefer Firefox over Chrome too, but I will use Chrome when I have
to.

Firefox has been getting progressively slower, even to load (and I use
about:blank as my home page), since version 49. It may have been
getting slower before that but the change was small. No, not just me
but others I know have also remarked it is getting slower. Mozilla been
putzing around with making major changes to catch up on their lag
compared to other web browsers: disable plug-ins, discard XUL and go to
web extensions (which Chromium uses), toss the menu bar and go to the
menu drop-down list (like Chrome), requires signed add-ons, removing
options from the config UI requiring to delve into about:config and then
discarding the option altogether, and going multi-process (8+ years
late) with Electrolysis (e10s) which is more piggish with just 1 process
for chrome and 1 for ALL tabs than is Chrome with 1 chrome process and
one process for each tab. And they still have their ages old problem
that exiting Firefox doesn't necessarily unload all its processes which
interferes with the next load of Firefox (less often in their 64-bit
version but still happens) -- a problem that I've yet to encounter in
Chrome. They are going to change to a different rendering engine: from
Gecko to Servo (programmed in Mozilla's Rust language) using WebRender
for faster rendering and Quantum to supposedly eliminate conflict with
the video driver. They added WebAssembly, an emerging standard from
Mozilla. Firefox has recently become and will continue to be for a
while a maelstrom of major changes. Rather than dump all that work into
Firefox, they should move forward with a new named web browser (well,
they should be called web clients since they don't just browse anymore).

Google Chrome has flaws, too, but, geez, does it load about:blank faster
and every page I go to. Yet Google are such dumbasses regarding
usability. I have to install an add-on to make new tabs come to the
front (get focus) when clicking on a hyperlink rather than load in the
background. I need an add-on to get back using Backspace to move back
through history because Google took away that key in v52. Why? Users
sometimes lost data in web forms when they mistakeningly hit the
Backspace key. That add-on is from Google to return what Google took
away. They couldn't be bothered to leave in the code and simply add a
user config option to select Backspace or Alt+LeftArrow as the history
back action. The add-on will refuse to move back when, for example,
there is input in an input element -- so why couldn't they merge that
code with what was already in Chrome for the Backspace key mapping? So
there are deficiencies and stupidities in Chrome and it has to get
locked down and is less configurable than Firefox yet I've had to move
to it. I really miss the inbuilt configurability of Firefox but speed
is addictive. When I have to use Firefox, geez, wait. I feel like Judy
Hopps at the DMV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVDN3M_hc8).

I thought it must be just me until I started hearing more coworkers,
friends, and other users complaining about Firefox getting slower.
Yeah, I've tried all the troubleshooting: name something and I've done
it. In the past, Firefox has had ups and down with performance but
they've been temporary. This has been worse since about Oct 2016 so
it's not just a momentary hiccup, and more severe changes are coming.


Hi Vanguard,

I have a secret weapon to speed up Chrome and Firefox. It
is an extension called "ublock orgin". Makes a YUGE difference.

I haven't noticed Firefox slowing down, but then again I
am using the Linux version. The first start of the day is
slow, but then it caches up in memory and starts in about
1-1/2 seconds after that.

My Windows customer usually start Firefox (and Chrome) and
leave it running all day, so not much of an issue.

When I set up a new Chrome or Firefox, the first thing I
do it to enable the bookmark tool bar and install uBlock
Orgin.

On Firefox, I altv and turn on the Menu Bar and
Toolbar. Then I customize the menu and add the book
barm star, the side bar icons and the printer icon,
then remove the weird media icons. I also remove the
search bar. I also install the "tabs on bottom" extension.

The search bar is a pain in my ass. You would never believe how
many of my customers do not know what the address bar is.
They search for 100% of everything. And since the address
bar can also be used as a search bar, I remove the address
bar.

Tip: have then press f6 a bunch of times and see what flashes
at you.

"enter 'fastsupport.com' into the address bar"

"which one do you want me to pick? There are hundred of
them here"

"you put it in the search bar instead of the address bar,
didn't you."

"no. what's an address bar? I don't have one"

Tip: `helpme.net` is linked to fast support and is far easier
to enter than `fastsupport.com`. Far less typos.

Had a lady using Chrome with a 70 MBit/sec Cable modem
complaining of a slow Internet connection. She was looking
up interior decorating items: tiling, flooring, curtains,
the whole nine yards. I got suspicious and installed
uBlock Orgin. I blew her away. I noticed that one
of the sites she had to using had something
like 240 hits on uBlock. Geez, no wonder she was so slow.

Running junkware removers also helps.

-T

On 5/23/2017 4:55 PM, T wrote:
On 05/23/2017 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

T wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

May it is a revision issue, but both computers today had fully
updated chromes and open PDF attachments from their eMail directly
into Acrobat Reader when I was finished. Maybe check my
directions and see if your are doing the same thing?

I don't use webmail clients unless both my desktop or smartphone are
unavailable.

Me too. I can't stand web mail clients.

I prefer Firefox over Chrome too, but I will use Chrome when I have
to.

Firefox has been getting progressively slower, even to load (and I use
about:blank as my home page), since version 49. It may have been
getting slower before that but the change was small. No, not just me
but others I know have also remarked it is getting slower. Mozilla been
putzing around with making major changes to catch up on their lag
compared to other web browsers: disable plug-ins, discard XUL and go to
web extensions (which Chromium uses), toss the menu bar and go to the
menu drop-down list (like Chrome), requires signed add-ons, removing
options from the config UI requiring to delve into about:config and then
discarding the option altogether, and going multi-process (8+ years
late) with Electrolysis (e10s) which is more piggish with just 1 process
for chrome and 1 for ALL tabs than is Chrome with 1 chrome process and
one process for each tab. And they still have their ages old problem
that exiting Firefox doesn't necessarily unload all its processes which
interferes with the next load of Firefox (less often in their 64-bit
version but still happens) -- a problem that I've yet to encounter in
Chrome. They are going to change to a different rendering engine: from
Gecko to Servo (programmed in Mozilla's Rust language) using WebRender
for faster rendering and Quantum to supposedly eliminate conflict with
the video driver. They added WebAssembly, an emerging standard from
Mozilla. Firefox has recently become and will continue to be for a
while a maelstrom of major changes. Rather than dump all that work into
Firefox, they should move forward with a new named web browser (well,
they should be called web clients since they don't just browse anymore).

Google Chrome has flaws, too, but, geez, does it load about:blank faster
and every page I go to. Yet Google are such dumbasses regarding
usability. I have to install an add-on to make new tabs come to the
front (get focus) when clicking on a hyperlink rather than load in the
background. I need an add-on to get back using Backspace to move back
through history because Google took away that key in v52. Why? Users
sometimes lost data in web forms when they mistakeningly hit the
Backspace key. That add-on is from Google to return what Google took
away. They couldn't be bothered to leave in the code and simply add a
user config option to select Backspace or Alt+LeftArrow as the history
back action. The add-on will refuse to move back when, for example,
there is input in an input element -- so why couldn't they merge that
code with what was already in Chrome for the Backspace key mapping? So
there are deficiencies and stupidities in Chrome and it has to get
locked down and is less configurable than Firefox yet I've had to move
to it. I really miss the inbuilt configurability of Firefox but speed
is addictive. When I have to use Firefox, geez, wait. I feel like Judy
Hopps at the DMV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVDN3M_hc8).

I thought it must be just me until I started hearing more coworkers,
friends, and other users complaining about Firefox getting slower.
Yeah, I've tried all the troubleshooting: name something and I've done
it. In the past, Firefox has had ups and down with performance but
they've been temporary. This has been worse since about Oct 2016 so
it's not just a momentary hiccup, and more severe changes are coming.


Hi Vanguard,

I have a secret weapon to speed up Chrome and Firefox. It
is an extension called "ublock orgin". Makes a YUGE difference.

I haven't noticed Firefox slowing down, but then again I
am using the Linux version. The first start of the day is
slow, but then it caches up in memory and starts in about
1-1/2 seconds after that.

My Windows customer usually start Firefox (and Chrome) and
leave it running all day, so not much of an issue.

When I set up a new Chrome or Firefox, the first thing I
do it to enable the bookmark tool bar and install uBlock
Orgin.

On Firefox, I altv and turn on the Menu Bar and
Toolbar. Then I customize the menu and add the book
barm star, the side bar icons and the printer icon,
then remove the weird media icons. I also remove the
search bar. I also install the "tabs on bottom" extension.

The search bar is a pain in my ass. You would never believe how
many of my customers do not know what the address bar is.
They search for 100% of everything. And since the address
bar can also be used as a search bar, I remove the address
bar.

Tip: have then press f6 a bunch of times and see what flashes
at you.

"enter 'fastsupport.com' into the address bar"

"which one do you want me to pick? There are hundred of
them here"

"you put it in the search bar instead of the address bar,
didn't you."

"no. what's an address bar? I don't have one"

Tip: `helpme.net` is linked to fast support and is far easier
to enter than `fastsupport.com`. Far less typos.

Had a lady using Chrome with a 70 MBit/sec Cable modem
complaining of a slow Internet connection. She was looking
up interior decorating items: tiling, flooring, curtains,
the whole nine yards. I got suspicious and installed
uBlock Orgin. I blew her away. I noticed that one
of the sites she had to using had something
like 240 hits on uBlock. Geez, no wonder she was so slow.

Running junkware removers also helps.

-T

Total agreement on uBlock Origin, awesome plugin.