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How to make a bootable USB
Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party
software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. Bill |
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How to make a bootable USB
On 8/16/2014 4:45 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. Oh yes, despite what Microsoft says (they are wrong), it is indeed possible. But man, what a headache if you go the manual registry approach. You have to change like three pages worth because Windows resets the USB ports in the middle of loading (which destroys USB booting and it is clueless where Windows is again). I believe there are but haven't really investigated the free easy options. I have heard of them but never tried them. Same for the easy commercial options. But here is the kicker. No matter how you do it, at least with USB2 it is incredibly slow. I dunno but I don't think most people would like it. I suppose if you got nothing but time, it might be ok. But it is just too slow for my tastes (like 6 to 10 times slower). -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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How to make a bootable USB
"Bill Cunningham" ha scritto nel messaggio
... Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. It's not clear. Do you want to put a whole XP into an USB stick? Or do you want a way to boot your PC by an USB stick in case of emergency only? |
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How to make a bootable USB
Bill Cunningham wrote:
Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. Bill The problem with a conventional WinXP install on a USB storage device, happens when the USB bus is being set up, some number of seconds after the boot process begins. The USB bus is reset, and the OS loses communication with the USB storage device. Solutions exist for this, and involve changing the declaration of the USB bus. The keyword is "BootBusExtender". The idea is for the booting process, to move the USB setup earlier in boot. Exactly how this works, I'm not sure of the details. The procedure, of preparing the OS to boot over USB, is a lengthy one, and I've not seen a reason to test it out for my own purposes. The activation of the OS is against a fixed set of hardware, so moving the USB storage device to another machine doesn't necessarily make sense. To be practical, you end up plugging the USB storage back into the same machine, so it's only saving a hard drive bay. Maybe it makes sense on a laptop (which has fewer storage options). Here is a sample thread for your enjoyment. This may not be the only thread or the best thread, but gives a flavor for how much work it is. I think an MSI motherboard forum had a thread like this too. http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/ Paul |
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How to make a bootable USB
On 8/16/2014 6:03 PM, Paul wrote:
The USB bus is reset, and the OS loses communication with the USB storage device. Yes. Solutions exist for this, and involve changing the declaration of the USB bus. The keyword is "BootBusExtender". The idea is for the booting process, to move the USB setup earlier in boot. Exactly how this works, I'm not sure of the details. Not that I am aware of. You just stop the USB from being reset. Sounds simple, but it isn't really. It takes about three pages worth of registry hacks to make it happen. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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How to make a bootable USB
"G.F." wrote in message ... It's not clear. Do you want to put a whole XP into an USB stick? Or do you want a way to boot your PC by an USB stick in case of emergency only? Either way. |
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How to make a bootable USB
"BillW50" wrote in message ... Not that I am aware of. You just stop the USB from being reset. Sounds simple, but it isn't really. It takes about three pages worth of registry hacks to make it happen. Where do you get your info? Someone might have saved those registry pages as .reg files to be imported. Bill |
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How to make a bootable USB
On 8/16/2014 6:28 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message ... Not that I am aware of. You just stop the USB from being reset. Sounds simple, but it isn't really. It takes about three pages worth of registry hacks to make it happen. Where do you get your info? Someone might have saved those registry pages as .reg files to be imported. I got them when Asus first released the first netbook and it came with Linux (Xandros actually) with very little drive space (2GB or 4GB at first). Since there was so little space, there was a drive to run XP on the larger SDHC card slot which could handle at least 32GB. Although this was an USB device. Import the hacked registry? Well maybe, I would be a bit worried without moderating each change. It might be ok, I am not real sure. But even if it is easy through other means or hard like changing the registry by hand. What about the slow speed from an USB2 device? Do you really want to wait and wait while running XP? Frankly that totally turned me off and there are far better ways to run XP. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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BIOS USB Floppy Drive allow booting of 1440 Kb,
"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
... Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. Bill BIOS will allow booting to a USB Floppy Drive So you can buy a USB Floppy Drive Why a USB stick can Not be as a Floppy Floppy is only 1440 Kb Set up in Fat But BIOS will allow USB stick To be use as a CD/DVD disk drive |
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How to make a bootable USB
On 8/16/2014 4:25 PM PT, Bill Cunningham typed:
It's not clear. Do you want to put a whole XP into an USB stick? Or do you want a way to boot your PC by an USB stick in case of emergency only? Either way. AFAIK, it is not possible to boot Windows XP from an USB flash drive. -- "Ah. Those club kids did eat those ants up like popcorn." --CSI: Miami (Wannabe episode; #218) /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: Rank 1 - Airwave |
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BIOS USB Floppy Drive allow booting of 1440 Kb,
wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:42:49 -0500, "Hot-Text" wrote: "Bill Cunningham" wrote in message ... Is there a way to make a bootable USB for XP? Even with 3rd party software or anything? My BIOS will allow booting from it but my USB stick isn't set to boot. Bill BIOS will allow booting to a USB Floppy Drive So you can buy a USB Floppy Drive Why a USB stick can Not be as a Floppy Floppy is only 1440 Kb Set up in Fat But BIOS will allow USB stick To be use as a CD/DVD disk drive If you use MKBT and send a floppy boot image to a USB stick it will boot like a floppy and show up as A: You are still limited to 1.44m tho. If you get your USB driver loaded, you can put another stick in there to use for space. http://store.mynews.ath.cx/temp/Virt...Virtual_Win-98 Boot_98.img 1.41 MB |
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BIOS USB Floppy Drive allow booting of 1440 Kb,
"Hot-Text" wrote in message ... I'm not quite sure what your trying to say. BIOS will allow booting to a USB Floppy Drive So you can buy a USB Floppy Drive Why a USB stick can Not be as a Floppy Floppy is only 1440 Kb Set up in Fat But BIOS will allow USB stick To be use as a CD/DVD disk drive If you use MKBT and send a floppy boot image to a USB stick it will boot like a floppy and show up as A: You are still limited to 1.44m tho. If you get your USB driver loaded, you can put another stick in there to use for space. SEt MKBT ? Where? What do you mean? I do have a USB floppy but floppy disk are hard to find nowadays. http://store.mynews.ath.cx/temp/Virt...Virtual_Win-98 Boot_98.img 1.41 MB Is this a MBR? I must be careful with this. How could I install this in XP? Bill |
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BIOS USB Floppy Drive allow booting of 1440 Kb,
"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
... "Hot-Text" wrote in message ... I'm not quite sure what your trying to say. BIOS will allow booting to a USB Floppy Drive So you can buy a USB Floppy Drive Why a USB stick can Not be as a Floppy Floppy is only 1440 Kb Set up in Fat ButBIOS will allow USB stick To be use as a CD/DVD disk drive If you use MKBT and send a floppy boot image to a USB stick it will boot like a floppy and show up as A: You are still limited to 1.44m tho. If you get your USB driver loaded, you can put another stick in there to use for space. SEt MKBT ? Where? N/A What do you mean? N/A I do have a USB floppy Yes but floppy disk are hard to find nowadays. Office Depot, K-Mart have them Nowadays http://store.mynews.ath.cx/temp/Virt...Virtual_Win-98 Boot_98.img 1.41 MB Is this a MBR? I must be careful with this. How could I install this in XP? Boot_98.zip pull all components out of the Zip put them in USB stick List of all components on the EBD ==================================== The following table describes the function of each file copied to the EBD. File FunctionAspi2dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi4dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8u2.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Aspicd.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Autoexec.bat Startup batch fileBtcdrom.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverBtdosm.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverCommand.com Command interpreterConfig.sys Loads the device driversDrvspace.bin Microsoft DriveSpace compression driverEbd.cab Cab file containing extract utilitiesEbd.sys File identifying the ESDExtract.exe File to expand the Ebd.cab fileFdisk.exe Disk partition toolFindramd.exe Utility to find the RAMDrive during startupFlashpt.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverHimem.sys XMS Memory ManagerIo.sys System boot fileMsdos.sys Boot option information (paths, multiboot, and so on)Oakcdrom.sys Generic device driver for ATAPI CD-ROM drivesRamdrive.sys Creates a Ramdrive during startupSetramd.bat Searches for first available drive to be a Ramdrive Then Boot from your USB stick |
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USB stick as Floppy Drive to allow booting Adding DOS USB Drives to the stick
"Hot-Text" wrote in message
... "Bill Cunningham" wrote in message ... Boot_98.zip pull all components out of the Zip put them in USB stick List of all components on the EBD ==================================== The following table describes the function of each file copied to the EBD. File FunctionAspi2dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi4dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8u2.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Aspicd.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Autoexec.bat Startup batch fileBtcdrom.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverBtdosm.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverCommand.com Command interpreterConfig.sys Loads the device driversDrvspace.bin Microsoft DriveSpace compression driverEbd.cab Cab file containing extract utilitiesEbd.sys File identifying the ESDExtract.exe File to expand the Ebd.cab fileFdisk.exe Disk partition toolFindramd.exe Utility to find the RAMDrive during startupFlashpt.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverHimem.sys XMS Memory ManagerIo.sys System boot fileMsdos.sys Boot option information (paths, multiboot, and so on)Oakcdrom.sys Generic device driver for ATAPI CD-ROM drivesRamdrive.sys Creates a Ramdrive during startupSetramd.bat Searches for first available drive to be a Ramdrive Then Boot from your USB stick Now you have to add the USB Drives for DOS loud them in the DOS OS Open the Config.sys in Notepad to set Drives up by hand [USB] device=? [menu] menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support. menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support. menuitem=HELP, View the Help file. menudefault=CD,30 menucolor=7,0 [CD] device=himem.sys /testmemff device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 device=btdosm.sys device=flashpt.sys device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 device=aspi2dos.sys device=aspi8dos.sys device=aspi4dos.sys device=aspi8u2.sys device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001 [NOCD] device=himem.sys /testmemff [HELP] device=himem.sys /testmemff [COMMON] files=10 buffers=10 dos=high,umb stacks=9,256 devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048 lastdrive=z |
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bootdisk.com
"Hot-Text" wrote in message ... "Hot-Text" wrote in message ... "Bill Cunningham" wrote in message ... Boot_98.zip pull all components out of the Zip put them in USB stick List of all components on the EBD ==================================== The following table describes the function of each file copied to the EBD. File FunctionAspi2dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi4dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8dos.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driverAspi8u2.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Aspicd.sys Real-Mode Adaptec CD-ROM driver Autoexec.bat Startup batch fileBtcdrom.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverBtdosm.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverCommand.com Command interpreterConfig.sys Loads the device driversDrvspace.bin Microsoft DriveSpace compression driverEbd.cab Cab file containing extract utilitiesEbd.sys File identifying the ESDExtract.exe File to expand the Ebd.cab fileFdisk.exe Disk partition toolFindramd.exe Utility to find the RAMDrive during startupFlashpt.sys Mylex/BusLogic CD-ROM driverHimem.sys XMS Memory ManagerIo.sys System boot fileMsdos.sys Boot option information (paths, multiboot, and so on)Oakcdrom.sys Generic device driver for ATAPI CD-ROM drivesRamdrive.sys Creates a Ramdrive during startupSetramd.bat Searches for first available drive to be a Ramdrive Then Boot from your USB stick Now you have to add the USB Drives for DOS loud them in the DOS OS Open the Config.sys in Notepad to set Drives up by hand [USB] device=? [menu] menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support. menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support. menuitem=HELP, View the Help file. menudefault=CD,30 menucolor=7,0 [CD] device=himem.sys /testmemff device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 device=btdosm.sys device=flashpt.sys device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001 device=aspi2dos.sys device=aspi8dos.sys device=aspi4dos.sys device=aspi8u2.sys device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001 [NOCD] device=himem.sys /testmemff [HELP] device=himem.sys /testmemff [COMMON] files=10 buffers=10 dos=high,umb stacks=9,256 devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048 lastdrive=z http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm |
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