OT, A pleasant suprise

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:29:16 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


Many cable ISP's advertise a sort of "turbo speed" which gives you more
than your advertised speed if the network you are on is not too busy.
There are several neighbours that you have who are sharing the same
bandwidth as you. So perhaps moving to a new neighbourhood has given
your connection a bit more breathing room, because there may not be as
many neighbours as you had before using the same connection as you?

Yousuf Khan



Good theory and makes sense Yousuf, but in my case I could detect 5
active networks in my old neighborhood now in my new apartment highrise
of 120 suites I detect about 22 networks. Go figure.


How many networks there are is not a good indication of how much usage
they are getting.

On 8/24/2016 9:29 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Good theory and makes sense Yousuf, but in my case I could detect 5
active networks in my old neighborhood now in my new apartment highrise
of 120 suites I detect about 22 networks. Go figure.

You're detecting Wi-Fi networks, that's not what I'm talking about, I'm
talking about the actual low-level cable modem networks. You have very
little way of telling whether your neighbours are on your cable modem
network or some ADSL network.

Yousuf Khan

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 07:38:48 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:29:16 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


Many cable ISP's advertise a sort of "turbo speed" which gives you more
than your advertised speed if the network you are on is not too busy.
There are several neighbours that you have who are sharing the same
bandwidth as you. So perhaps moving to a new neighbourhood has given
your connection a bit more breathing room, because there may not be as
many neighbours as you had before using the same connection as you?

Yousuf Khan



Good theory and makes sense Yousuf, but in my case I could detect 5
active networks in my old neighborhood now in my new apartment highrise
of 120 suites I detect about 22 networks. Go figure.


How many networks there are is not a good indication of how much usage
they are getting.

+1

I was going to say the exact same thing regarding WiFi networks. The number
of visible SSIDs is much less important than how busy they are in total.

This thread also seems to be jumping back and forth between the wireless
portion of an Internet connection and the wired portion; i.e., the cable/DSL
infrastructure.

Many times, you can tell who the ISP is by looking at the SSID. Around me,
2Wire is ATT DSL, for example, but some people change their SSID so it gets
a little harder to tell. A dozen years ago, you'd simply connect to one that
looks interesting, then do a traceroute to an Internet destination to see
who the ISP is.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:05:16 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2016-08-24 13:55, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 8/24/2016 9:29 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Good theory and makes sense Yousuf, but in my case I could detect 5
active networks in my old neighborhood now in my new apartment highrise
of 120 suites I detect about 22 networks. Go figure.

You're detecting Wi-Fi networks, that's not what I'm talking about, I'm
talking about the actual low-level cable modem networks. You have very
little way of telling whether your neighbours are on your cable modem
network or some ADSL network.

Yousuf Khan

The speed of your connection depends on how many customers are on the
local node, how many of them are online, and what they are doing.


Yes, that's much the same thing I said, but you are a little more
specific than I was.