Preventing the upgrade to the anniversary edition

after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Thanks.

Alek wrote:
after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Thanks.

Use the "metered NIC" hack.

Microsoft has a feature, where Wifi will not
be used, if you set a flag which says the Wifi
is "metered" and costs a lot of money. Typically,
a rural user on satellite, with a 2GB/month cap
uses such a feature. Because they cannot really
afford to download an OS upgrade, with the
severe limitations on satellite data.

Well, it turns out, you can use Regedit to set
the same feature for a wired NIC.

Example:

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost
Ethernet DWORD 1 = non-metered
2 = metered

HTH,
Paul

On 25/08/2016 23:13, Alek wrote:
after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Yes you can stop using Windows 10 and go back to your Linux machine.
Stop talking rubbish; Where did you read "all of the things that are
wrong with the anniversary edition" You really need to make sure you
are taking your meds as prescribed.

You are the same Alek who didn't want Windows 10 and now you are using
Win10 and worried about 2nd edition. Are you always like this?



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Paul wrote on 8/25/2016 6:26 PM:
Alek wrote:
after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Thanks.

Use the "metered NIC" hack.

Microsoft has a feature, where Wifi will not
be used, if you set a flag which says the Wifi
is "metered" and costs a lot of money. Typically,
a rural user on satellite, with a 2GB/month cap
uses such a feature. Because they cannot really
afford to download an OS upgrade, with the
severe limitations on satellite data.

Well, it turns out, you can use Regedit to set
the same feature for a wired NIC.

Example:

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost
Ethernet DWORD 1 = non-metered
2 = metered

Won't that slow my entire Internet connection??

Alek wrote:
Paul wrote on 8/25/2016 6:26 PM:
Alek wrote:
after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Thanks.
Use the "metered NIC" hack.

Microsoft has a feature, where Wifi will not
be used, if you set a flag which says the Wifi
is "metered" and costs a lot of money. Typically,
a rural user on satellite, with a 2GB/month cap
uses such a feature. Because they cannot really
afford to download an OS upgrade, with the
severe limitations on satellite data.

Well, it turns out, you can use Regedit to set
the same feature for a wired NIC.

Example:

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost
Ethernet DWORD 1 = non-metered
2 = metered

Won't that slow my entire Internet connection??

http://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how-...on-windows-10/

What Setting a Connection as Metered Does

Setting a connection as metered prevents Windows from
automatically using bandwidth in many ways. Here's
exactly what it does:

# Disables automatic downloading of Windows updates:

Windows won't automatically download updates from
Windows Update on metered Internet connections. You’ll
get a "Download" button you can click whenever you want
to install updates.

# Disables automatic downloading of app updates:

The Windows Store won’t automatically download updates
for your installed "Store apps" on metered connections,
either. Desktop apps like Chrome, Firefox, and others
will continue updating themselves normally.

# Disables peer-to-peer uploading of updates:

On a metered connection, Windows 10 won't use your
upload bandwidth to share updates with PCs over the
Internet. Windows 10 does this by default, consuming
your potentially limited upload allowance to reduce
Microsoft’s bandwidth bills.

# Tiles may not update:

Microsoft says that the live tiles on your Start menu
or Start screen "may" stop updating on a metered
connection.

# Other apps may behave differently:

Apps - particularly apps from the Windows Store - could
potentially read this setting and behave differently.

For example, a "universal app" BitTorrent client could
potentially stop downloading automatically when connected
to a metered connection.

Windows 10's OneDrive client appears to no longer respect
the "metered connection" setting and will sync over metered
connections, ignoring your preference.

*******

Only the BitTorrent App looks like an unfortunate victim...

HTH,
Paul

On 8/25/2016 4:54 PM, Paul wrote:
Alek wrote:
Paul wrote on 8/25/2016 6:26 PM:
Alek wrote:
after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

Is there a way I can prevent that from happening?

Thanks.
Use the "metered NIC" hack.

Microsoft has a feature, where Wifi will not
be used, if you set a flag which says the Wifi
is "metered" and costs a lot of money. Typically,
a rural user on satellite, with a 2GB/month cap
uses such a feature. Because they cannot really
afford to download an OS upgrade, with the
severe limitations on satellite data.

Well, it turns out, you can use Regedit to set
the same feature for a wired NIC.

Example:

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html


HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost
Ethernet DWORD 1 = non-metered
2 = metered

Won't that slow my entire Internet connection??

http://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how-...on-windows-10/


What Setting a Connection as Metered Does

Setting a connection as metered prevents Windows from
automatically using bandwidth in many ways. Here's
exactly what it does:

# Disables automatic downloading of Windows updates:

Windows won't automatically download updates from
Windows Update on metered Internet connections. You’ll
get a "Download" button you can click whenever you want
to install updates.

The anniversary update seems to have deleted this option.
No more manual update button.
I executed the .reg file that turns off metered connection.
Anniversary addition seems to have reset the registry permissions
so that doesn't work either. Had to manually reset the permissions
to let the .reg file work.
Said it was updating, but nothing much happening on the ethernet.
All the updates failed.
Restarted the system. New updates same as the last new updates.
This time they failed because "the computer was off". Maybe
they confuse sleep with off. Do I now have to turn off sleep
to get updates?
Third try, updates seem to have worked.
Another afternoon of my life gone, never to return.

I did find one post that described how to download a bunch of
stuff from microsoft to let you write a script to automatically
fix the registry
permissions, but it required a lot of fiddling and changes
to the boot status of various programs.
GRRRRR!!!!

Windows update had a "one-click" update-on-my-schedule button, but that
is now defunct. What's the latest in the update wars to let
the user regain control of his computer.

I must admit I'm becoming bored with all this.
I'm booting the win10 machine less and less.

# Disables automatic downloading of app updates:

The Windows Store won’t automatically download updates
for your installed "Store apps" on metered connections,
either. Desktop apps like Chrome, Firefox, and others
will continue updating themselves normally.

# Disables peer-to-peer uploading of updates:

On a metered connection, Windows 10 won't use your
upload bandwidth to share updates with PCs over the
Internet. Windows 10 does this by default, consuming
your potentially limited upload allowance to reduce
Microsoft’s bandwidth bills.

# Tiles may not update:

Microsoft says that the live tiles on your Start menu
or Start screen "may" stop updating on a metered
connection.

# Other apps may behave differently:

Apps - particularly apps from the Windows Store - could
potentially read this setting and behave differently.

For example, a "universal app" BitTorrent client could
potentially stop downloading automatically when connected
to a metered connection.

Windows 10's OneDrive client appears to no longer respect
the "metered connection" setting and will sync over metered
connections, ignoring your preference.

*******

Only the BitTorrent App looks like an unfortunate victim...

HTH,
Paul

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:13:43 -0400, Alek wrote:

after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

You ADMIT you read AND BELIEVE the trolls??

Or is a webcam THAT important to you,
and you DON'T believe MS will fix THAT screwup quickly??

The New Other Guy wrote on 8/26/2016 12:07 AM:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:13:43 -0400, Alek wrote:

after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

You ADMIT you read AND BELIEVE the trolls??

You're an ass! I read the technical websites, not Usenet for that kindof
info!

Or is a webcam THAT important to you,
and you DON'T believe MS will fix THAT screwup quickly??

There's more than just the webcam, bro.

Why would I install broken software? That's just asking for trouble.

mike wrote:


I did find one post that described how to download a bunch of
stuff from microsoft to let you write a script to automatically
fix the registry
permissions, but it required a lot of fiddling and changes
to the boot status of various programs.
GRRRRR!!!!

They managed to mis-spell the URL, but anyway...

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/pxexec

psexec -i -s cmd.exe

That's an example of running Command Prompt
using the SYSTEM account. You may be able to give
yourself the permissions to get around some of the
more pesky stuff. The SYSTEM account is pretty useful.

Paul

The New Other Guy wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:13:43 -0400, Alek wrote:

after reading about all of the things that are wrong with the
anniversary edition, I'm concerned that MS will at some point try to
install it on my PC!

You ADMIT you read AND BELIEVE the trolls??

Or is a webcam THAT important to you,
and you DON'T believe MS will fix THAT screwup quickly??

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-most-webcams/

"Microsoft has said that a fix is in development,
but has not yet said when that fix will be distributed."

Notice that the architecture doesn't seem to be that
well thought out. So the problem is, to fix the bug,
they can either back out the subsystem, or, they
can go "full speed ahead". That means the developer
writing this code, has to finish it, before you
get your bug fix.

And using that Registry key, doesn't guarantee anything.
My webcam is still broken with frameserving disabled,
if I use the Logitech software. The Logitech software
used to work, but I don't test it after every upgrade
here, so I cannot correlate the failure with some
specific point in time, to prove this change is the cause.
And some of the controls for my camera, are only
available in the Logitech software - the Microsoft
half-baked control panel equivalents are not
good enough to enable/disable RightLight or
Autofocus, or select 1600x1200 resolution.
The IVC config space of the device only handles
up to 960 resolution, leaving the full resolution
only available via the Logitech software.

I think the above article is a fair and balanced
analysis. There is some lack of QA or forethought
at Microsoft right now. I'm also seeing quality
issued in 14905 (power button in menu no longer
works). Microsoft seemed to be in a God-awful
rush to get 14901 and 14905 in place of 14393.1000
for some reason. Almost like 14905 was to test
whether Insider users would fill out their
Feedback Hub reports in a timely fashion. I
think I've filled out three for 14905 so far.

Paul