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XP still available (new) without SP2?
I'm hoping you might provide some direction here, with regard to SP2.
My sister's PC has been nothing but trouble since SP2 was installed - to the point she went out and bought parts for a new system, and a new OEM copy of XP home so she could get rid of SP2. I assembled her new system, and installed the OS - unfortunately this CD comes with SP2 included, and did not provide any option during installation to deselect SP2. Is there any work around, or should she be looking for an older copy of XP? I'd be fine with buying her new copy and upgrading my own (win98SE) PC so she can buy what she needs - but is it even available new without SP2? I can't give specifics on the problems SP2 is causing, but it seems to relate primarily with the online game Everquest 2 by Sony; it has been unplayable, with system freezing, BSOD, spontaneous reboots, slow game performance (when it will work at all)... She's tried disabling SP2's firewall, uninstalling SP2, updating video drivers - etc with no positive results. The most frequent advice from other gamers is to wipe the drive and reinstall XP (without SP2) - but that's not really an option for her at this point, since she has important business apps and data on her drive that she can't risk losing or even being without for a day or two. Note - to reply by email, please reformat the addressee (should be pretty obvious) |
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:19:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
wrote: In , typed: I'm hoping you might provide some direction here, with regard to SP2. My sister's PC has been nothing but trouble since SP2 was installed - to the point she went out and bought parts for a new system, and a new OEM copy of XP home so she could get rid of SP2. Wow! Talk about overkill! Why didn't she (or you) come here to ask for help before taking such a drastic step? Almost certainly her problems could have been solved without spending any money. She's asked, searched, tried everything anyone could suggest - there was no fixing it short of reinstalling, and as I said that is not an option I assembled her new system, and installed the OS - unfortunately this CD comes with SP2 included, and did not provide any option during installation to deselect SP2. Most CDs that are now available now come with SP2. If it does come with it, it's never optional. Is there any work around, No. or should she be looking for an older copy of XP? Neither. She should just install it *with* SP2. Doing a clean installation with it will probably not result in the problems she had earlier, which were likely caused by all te spyware she had on her machine. Well, perhaps I wasn't clear on that; I did install it with SP2, and it functions no better than her old machine as far as her games! I'd be fine with buying her new copy and upgrading my own (win98SE) PC No, you wouldn't. OEM copies can not be used to perform upgrades. Miscommunication here - I'm well aware I can't upgrade; what I meant was upgrade in the sense of replacing 98, which has pretty much reached the end of its useful life since MS will no longer be supplying security patches for it. Fortunately for me, I don't run a business and have no problem wiping my drives and starting over. so she can buy what she needs - but is it even available new without SP2? Probably, if you look hard enough. But most copies you will find now will include it. Fair enough; used it is then. I hope I'm not sounding too bitter about this whole thing - I seem to have gotten your irish up a bit here. Let me say that I've been monitoring the win98 groups for many years, and have gotten excellent advice many times - and even (hopefully) given some from time to time. I very much appreciate the effort you gurus put in here helping the more obtuse among us. As for MS, I've been a loyal customer since windows 3.0, and I truly believe its the best OS available for PC. I also recognize that SP2 is an excellent product for probably 95% of those who've applied it, and addresses some serious issues - I'm not knocking it. It does, however, create problems for the remaining 5%, and that's only to be expected; there are always a few glitches with any software. All I know is that for many serious online gamers, its a real issue; I'm not blaming MS for that - I don't think its reasonable to expect 100% success - I'm just saying it worked great before SP2, and works lousy or not at all after SP2. To me the obvious solution in this case is to go back to what worked, until either MS or Sony addresses the issue. So far, neither is even admitting there is any issue - but that isn't fixing my problem g. Who knows - perhaps the root cause is neither - perhaps its her hardware firewall that doesn't play well with SP2, or her anti virus; the thing is, she's been an avid gamer for years, and has been shut out of her game since last summer over this. At this point she'd cheerfully throw the whole kit and caboodle in the dumpster if not for the business needs. To me, a clean installation without SP2 is a good option if it solves the problem, and the new sytem is just a bonus (but her old PC was only just within specs for the game anyway, and would have to be upgraded in the near future) - mostly on the off chance it was a hardware issue, like video card or drivers. The new machine has a different brand of video (ATI Radeon), new SATA drive, new everything, and it didn't solve anything. I think at least we've ruled out hardware. Note - to reply by email, please reformat the addressee (should be pretty obvious) |
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