Is there a way to see if an email address is valid?

I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".

The closure of the business did not surprise me, since I knew it was not
working out real well for them.

Anyhow, I only had their business email, not a personal one. I sent them
an email two days ago, and did not receive a "Delivery Status
Notification (Failure)" reply.

Does this mean the email address is still valid, or dont all "dead"
emails return that failure message?

Is there any way to ping, or test to see if an email address is valid?

Maybe they just dont check it often, but I am wondering if there is a
way to check the validity.

(To check if I would get a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)"
message for ANY email address, I sent an email to a valid email company
(yahoo.com), but made up an address, which was very long and consisted
of many random letters, numbers, and other aceptable characters, but
knowing there was very little chance it was valid. In less than one
minute, I received a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" message).

on Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:43:34 -0600 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".

The closure of the business did not surprise me, since I knew it was not
working out real well for them.

Anyhow, I only had their business email, not a personal one. I sent them
an email two days ago, and did not receive a "Delivery Status
Notification (Failure)" reply.

Does this mean the email address is still valid, or dont all "dead"
emails return that failure message?

Is there any way to ping, or test to see if an email address is valid?

Maybe they just dont check it often, but I am wondering if there is a
way to check the validity.

(To check if I would get a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)"
message for ANY email address, I sent an email to a valid email company
(yahoo.com), but made up an address, which was very long and consisted
of many random letters, numbers, and other aceptable characters, but
knowing there was very little chance it was valid. In less than one
minute, I received a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" message).


Depending - the address may still be "valid" - but nobody is
checking said email.
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pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On 2/21/2018 7:43 PM, wrote:
I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".

The closure of the business did not surprise me, since I knew it was not
working out real well for them.

Anyhow, I only had their business email, not a personal one. I sent them
an email two days ago, and did not receive a "Delivery Status
Notification (Failure)" reply.

Does this mean the email address is still valid, or dont all "dead"
emails return that failure message?

Is there any way to ping, or test to see if an email address is valid?

Maybe they just dont check it often, but I am wondering if there is a
way to check the validity.

(To check if I would get a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)"
message for ANY email address, I sent an email to a valid email company
(yahoo.com), but made up an address, which was very long and consisted
of many random letters, numbers, and other aceptable characters, but
knowing there was very little chance it was valid. In less than one
minute, I received a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" message).


In dealing with spam, I check the validity of the sender's "From",
"Reply to", and "Return-Path" E-mail addresses. I use either of the
following:
http://verify-email.org/
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/email-validator/verify_email.php

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

President Trump: Please stop using Twitter. We need
to hear your voice and see you talking. We need to know
when your message is really your own and not your attorney's.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:46:12 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:


In dealing with spam, I check the validity of the sender's "From",
"Reply to", and "Return-Path" E-mail addresses. I use either of the
following:
http://verify-email.org/
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/email-validator/verify_email.php

--

Thanks.

The first one
http://verify-email.org/

Says the email address I was asking about, is VALID.

Then I entered an address I know is invalid and it said it's INVALID.

---

That second one (yellowpipe.com) dont seem to work.
I entered addresses that I know are valid. A friend I email daily, a
business I contact very often, a local politician, even my own email
address. ALL OF THEM produce this message, "This email address appears
to be INVALID".

So, I wont use that second one any further.

But the first one seems to be accurate and did say the email I was
questioning, is VALID.

I will bookmark this one. That is what I was looking for. Thanks!

jazzy2 wrote:

I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".
[snip]

Just a thought. The last time I needed to find contact info for someone, I
googled that person's name and all relevant info, and then spent some time
weeding out the irrelevant. It took a couple hours, but I was able to
eventually get a phone number from a government site.

My point is, you *might* be able to find something that is more current than
a 3-year-old email address with some judicious searching.

--
The less confident you are, the more serious you have to act.

On 22/02/2018 03:43, wrote:
Maybe they just dont check it often, but I am wondering if there is a
way to check the validity.




Check if the domain is still registered in your so called friend's name
or his business. The business might have closed down but the domain
might still be registered because it costs almost nothing to register a
domain. (About 6 USD per year).

You haven't seen somebody for 3 years and you still call him your
friend? What do you use your eMail account for? to receive spam eMail?



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With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

wrote

|I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
| 3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
| google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".
|

Where was that message coming from? My thought
is that while the website may be gone, they could
still own the domain and maybe or maybe not use the
email. (Assuming the address you have is like
and not .)

If they had a domain you can check a site like
whois.com. In some cases the owner info is private
but in many cases you'll find the address, email and
phone number of the owner.

One other wrinkle to consider: If the domain and
email are still active that would explain not getting
an error response. But then there can be different
possibilities: info@ may be no longer operational and
the server might be set to either delete such email
or send it to a default address, like webmaster, which
may never be checked. In other words, you can't
be sure whether it's auto-deleted, an ignored
account, or dumped into an ignored account.
With ISPs you'd probably get a "no such person"
error but that might not happen with a domain
server.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:02:34 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
wrote:

jazzy2 wrote:

I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".
[snip]

Just a thought. The last time I needed to find contact info for someone, I
googled that person's name and all relevant info, and then spent some time
weeding out the irrelevant. It took a couple hours, but I was able to
eventually get a phone number from a government site.

My point is, you *might* be able to find something that is more current than
a 3-year-old email address with some judicious searching.

You might also find some very old data. I recently searched for
some data on a company that I used to deal with when I lived in that
city. I moved from there in August 2006. The business was going to
move about three days later. There is still seemingly-current data
showing the old address at multiple sites. One was the local chamber
of commerce!

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Gene Wirchenko on Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:35:51 -0800
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:02:34 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
wrote:

jazzy2 wrote:

I had a friend who ran a small business. I have not seen them for about
3 years and wanted to contact them. I found their website is gone, and
google brought up a message saying "business is permanently closed".
[snip]

Just a thought. The last time I needed to find contact info for someone, I
googled that person's name and all relevant info, and then spent some time
weeding out the irrelevant. It took a couple hours, but I was able to
eventually get a phone number from a government site.

My point is, you *might* be able to find something that is more current than
a 3-year-old email address with some judicious searching.

You might also find some very old data. I recently searched for
some data on a company that I used to deal with when I lived in that
city. I moved from there in August 2006. The business was going to
move about three days later. There is still seemingly-current data
showing the old address at multiple sites. One was the local chamber
of commerce!

I hate finding a recommendation for a business which I know moved
from the listed address, and since then has closed up completely.
"Rated 4.5 stars".

Yeah, right.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:35:51 -0800, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

You might also find some very old data. I recently searched for
some data on a company that I used to deal with when I lived in that
city. I moved from there in August 2006. The business was going to
move about three days later. There is still seemingly-current data
showing the old address at multiple sites. One was the local chamber
of commerce!

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Google is notorious for having a lot of outdated links. I cant
understand why I search for stuff, and end up getting links to Ebay
items that sold 2 years ago, or contacts for people/ businesses that are
long gone. In recent years, I'd estimate that half the stuff I click on
in Google is either a dead link, or old worthless info. It kind of seems
like they never remove outdated stuff. If they dont start cleaning up
junk, soon they will just become a pile of rubbish links, anad finding
anything of value will be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

On 2/22/2018 3:17 AM, scribbled:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:46:12 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:


In dealing with spam, I check the validity of the sender's "From",
"Reply to", and "Return-Path" E-mail addresses. I use either of the
following:
http://verify-email.org/
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/email-validator/verify_email.php

--

Thanks.

The first one
http://verify-email.org/

Says the email address I was asking about, is VALID.

Then I entered an address I know is invalid and it said it's INVALID.

---

That second one (yellowpipe.com) dont seem to work.
I entered addresses that I know are valid. A friend I email daily, a
business I contact very often, a local politician, even my own email
address. ALL OF THEM produce this message, "This email address appears
to be INVALID".

So, I wont use that second one any further.

But the first one seems to be accurate and did say the email I was
questioning, is VALID.

I will bookmark this one. That is what I was looking for. Thanks!



your going to have to do a thorough check. FCC has ruined
communications on the internet. all this depends on what IP address is
at the site, at the time its checked, and what avenues your computer
talking to it from takes. Its very possible it is not valid even after
you check it and it says it is.

Use more than one and use a trace program on the sites that you do use,
to determine they are in fact far apart from each other in true
location. Then do at least three checks on three differ sites that
permit you to use them for email validation. Once they all say the same
thing, then you can likely believe it. For you to understand what I
am speaking about, it is about spam. And what has happened to the
internet because of such a bogus false law. Many firewalls are up. And
those firewalls all have false informations of IP numerals, to block
traffic from any of these that have been reported. Because todays ISPs
use what they call random change IP numerals, many people who are
innocent on the net are blocked of because their isp gave them an IP
numeral that is on a **** list. These **** lists exists in many servers
of many differ locations and types of firewalls that shut down traffic.
An example of a most troubled one, is verizon. Many of their IP
numerals are on FIREWALLS **** LIST. all over the world, and they do
nothing to remove these from the internet but issue them out to legit
people that do not spam at all. Even in random, as a person is using
the internet, the IP numeral will change so that these isp providers can
hook on another IP on in a sign in to use the net next. Of course even
at times, the same numeral can be used at the same time sometimes, and
it does happen and both out there active. Once the net understands two
are on it with the same IP numeral, the ISP is notified and the random
numbers are changed on someone even if they are still on the same
internet. The actual 12 digit indentifer, ran out a long time ago
because of over population and how many do use the internet. So random
IP numeral assignment is constantly happening, even if your on it. So
in many cases, people get blocked and are not notified of it. That can
even be you, while your checking a validation. Just a GLITCH OF ITS
CHANGE, WILL NULL THE TRUE OUTCOME. Or even the site that is checking it
can be blocked, and give you a not valid. When it is REALLY VALID.

Keep this in mind, that those that use the internet without a IP numeral
identifier such as a net meter, on their own screen and desktop of just
what their IP address is at that particular second, as they are using
it, are void to this information of when it happens and changes of. In
true suggestion, only http://www.emailrobot.cn/

has the IP numeral up in its program that it checks from itself, and can
be manipulated to check emails from even other servers IPs on the net,
other than your own assigned isp IP numeral. Of course, you can also
find out from using free ip tools what firewalls are blocking what IP
numerals by entering the ip numeral into the program itself and give it
time to report. Of course, it also does several other things as well
but is also, subject to being blocked on the net.

http://www.all-nettools.com/free-ip-tools.htm

the ps is this, free ip tools does not check all the firewalls on the
internet but only a very tiny portion of them.

On 2/22/2018 8:26 PM, tesla sTinker scribbled:


On 2/22/2018 3:17 AM, scribbled:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:46:12 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:


In dealing with spam, I check the validity of the sender's "From",
"Reply to", and "Return-Path" E-mail addresses. I use either of the
following:
http://verify-email.org/
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/email-validator/verify_email.php

--

Thanks.

The first one
http://verify-email.org/

Says the email address I was asking about, is VALID.

Then I entered an address I know is invalid and it said it's INVALID.

---

That second one (yellowpipe.com) dont seem to work.
I entered addresses that I know are valid. A friend I email daily, a
business I contact very often, a local politician, even my own email
address. ALL OF THEM produce this message, "This email address appears
to be INVALID".

So, I wont use that second one any further.

But the first one seems to be accurate and did say the email I was
questioning, is VALID.

I will bookmark this one. That is what I was looking for. Thanks!



your going to have to do a thorough check. FCC has ruined communications
on the internet. all this depends on what IP address is at the site, at
the time its checked, and what avenues your computer talking to it from
takes. Its very possible it is not valid even after you check it and it
says it is.

Use more than one and use a trace program on the sites that you do use,
to determine they are in fact far apart from each other in true
location. Then do at least three checks on three differ sites that
permit you to use them for email validation. Once they all say the same
thing, then you can likely believe it. For you to understand what I am
speaking about, it is about spam. And what has happened to the internet
because of such a bogus false law. Many firewalls are up. And those
firewalls all have false informations of IP numerals, to block traffic
from any of these that have been reported. Because todays ISPs use what
they call random change IP numerals, many people who are innocent on the
net are blocked of because their isp gave them an IP numeral that is on
a **** list. These **** lists exists in many servers of many differ
locations and types of firewalls that shut down traffic. An example of a
most troubled one, is verizon. Many of their IP numerals are on
FIREWALLS **** LIST. all over the world, and they do nothing to remove
these from the internet but issue them out to legit people that do not
spam at all. Even in random, as a person is using the internet, the IP
numeral will change so that these isp providers can hook on another IP
on in a sign in to use the net next. Of course even at times, the same
numeral can be used at the same time sometimes, and it does happen and
both out there active. Once the net understands two are on it with the
same IP numeral, the ISP is notified and the random numbers are changed
on someone even if they are still on the same internet. The actual 12
digit indentifer, ran out a long time ago because of over population and
how many do use the internet. So random IP numeral assignment is
constantly happening, even if your on it. So in many cases, people get
blocked and are not notified of it. That can even be you, while your
checking a validation. Just a GLITCH OF ITS CHANGE, WILL NULL THE TRUE
OUTCOME. Or even the site that is checking it can be blocked, and give
you a not valid. When it is REALLY VALID.

Keep this in mind, that those that use the internet without a IP numeral
identifier such as a net meter, on their own screen and desktop of just
what their IP address is at that particular second, as they are using
it, are void to this information of when it happens and changes of. In
true suggestion, only http://www.emailrobot.cn/

has the IP numeral up in its program that it checks from itself, and can
be manipulated to check emails from even other servers IPs on the net,
other than your own assigned isp IP numeral. Of course, you can also
find out from using free ip tools what firewalls are blocking what IP
numerals by entering the ip numeral into the program itself and give it
time to report. Of course, it also does several other things as well but
is also, subject to being blocked on the net.

http://www.all-nettools.com/free-ip-tools.htm

you don't have a clue of what you say. First, read my other post above.

On 2/22/2018 5:36 PM, scribbled:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:35:51 -0800, Gene
wrote:

You might also find some very old data. I recently searched for
some data on a company that I used to deal with when I lived in that
city. I moved from there in August 2006. The business was going to
move about three days later. There is still seemingly-current data
showing the old address at multiple sites. One was the local chamber
of commerce!

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Google is notorious for having a lot of outdated links. I cant
understand why I search for stuff, and end up getting links to Ebay
items that sold 2 years ago, or contacts for people/ businesses that are
long gone. In recent years, I'd estimate that half the stuff I click on
in Google is either a dead link, or old worthless info. It kind of seems
like they never remove outdated stuff. If they dont start cleaning up
junk, soon they will just become a pile of rubbish links, anad finding
anything of value will be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

In message ,
writes:
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Google is notorious for having a lot of outdated links. I cant
understand why I search for stuff, and end up getting links to Ebay
items that sold 2 years ago, or contacts for people/ businesses that are
long gone. In recent years, I'd estimate that half the stuff I click on
in Google is either a dead link, or old worthless info. It kind of seems
like they never remove outdated stuff. If they dont start cleaning up
junk, soon they will just become a pile of rubbish links, anad finding
anything of value will be like finding a needle in a hay stack.

(We must search for different things - I don't encounter this problem
_that_ much.)

I always use https://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?hl=en (I'm sure
there will be a US equivalent) rather than just the basic Google. (You
can use it as the basic Google just by only using the top box, so
there's no reason not to use this page instead.) One of the features in
it, though I don't _often_ use it and it's a few lines down, is a "last
update:" box, where you can choose between anytime (the default), past
24 hours, past week, past month, or past year.
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 09:59:56 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

I always use https://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?hl=en (I'm sure
there will be a US equivalent) rather than just the basic Google. (You
can use it as the basic Google just by only using the top box, so
there's no reason not to use this page instead.) One of the features in
it, though I don't _often_ use it and it's a few lines down, is a "last
update:" box, where you can choose between anytime (the default), past
24 hours, past week, past month, or past year.


Thanks for that. .com instead of .co.uk gets the US version.


-dan z-


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a nice contrast to the real world.
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