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On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In , philo wrote: It is totally impossible for a Linux live cd to do anything to a Windows installation unless that partition is mounted first I know for a fact that statement isn't true. Then you've proven you know less than nothing Maybe you need to do a little research on what it means to mount a file system -- https://www.createspace.com/3707686 |
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philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: On 09/08/2012 08:59 PM, glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bil snip dows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is X snip rking theory to be believable. Maybe you forgot to supply one. 1) Windows XP SP2 works fine everyday. 2) Ubuntu Live 8.10 booted from USB and then shutdown. n and the results are always the same. Also the question isn't really about the Windows swapfile. The only reason why the Windows swapfile was introduced was it's a working theory from a Linux expert. But it doesn't have to be related to the swapfile at all. So the real question is what is going on here? I believe any five year old could figure this one out. It isn't really that hard. If any five year old could figure it out...then why haven't you done so???? sheesh I have! It is so simple! Ubuntu Live is messing with the Windows install. But you can't figure that one out. Why is that? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: It is totally impossible for a Linux live cd to do anything to a Windows installation unless that partition is mounted first I know for a fact that statement isn't true. Then you've proven you know less than nothing Maybe you need to do a little research on what it means to mount a file system What? Is this a joke? No mounting knowledge is necessary to boot Ubuntu Live and then shutting it back down again. And I am the one that has proven to know less than nothing? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. |
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On 09/09/2012 10:29 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In , philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: On 09/08/2012 08:59 PM, glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bil snip If any five year old could figure it out...then why haven't you done so???? sheesh I have! It is so simple! Ubuntu Live is messing with the Windows install. But you can't figure that one out. Why is that? "messing with" has no technical meaning in my book. You first said it wrote to the swap file but when you were called on that you changed your story... -- https://www.createspace.com/3707686 |
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On 09/09/2012 10:29 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In , philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: It is totally impossible for a Linux live cd to do anything to a Windows installation unless that partition is mounted first I know for a fact that statement isn't true. Then you've proven you know less than nothing Maybe you need to do a little research on what it means to mount a file system What? Is this a joke? No mounting knowledge is necessary to boot Ubuntu Live and then shutting it back down again. And I am the one that has proven to know less than nothing? OK I specifically said you can not modify anything on a drive unless you first mount it...again you have changed your story... Maybe you should consider it's time to quit trolling now -- https://www.createspace.com/3707686 |
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Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. No way! Any halfwit can figure it out. It isn't that hard. Run Linux and Windows gets trashed. Saying anything other than Linux is doing it wouldn't make any sense. This isn't rocket science you know. So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. It doesn't matter what OS is on the drive. The claim is that Linux Live won't touch it. And I know for a fact that is wrong! If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. Philo says that doesn't happen. Yet I bet it happens for everybody on any system. Why? What is Linux doing with the Windows drive? I tried the same with BartPE. And BartPE booted completely and the Windows drive light never lit up even once. So there is no way anybody is going to tell me that Linux Live doesn't touch your Windows drive. As the drive's access light is saying otherwise. I haven't got the same conditions that I did back in 2009 yet. That will take some time to setup yet. I even still have backups from back then too. ;-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 10:29 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: On 09/08/2012 08:59 PM, glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bil snip If any five year old could figure it out...then why haven't you done so???? sheesh I have! It is so simple! Ubuntu Live is messing with the Windows install. But you can't figure that one out. Why is that? "messing with" has no technical meaning in my book. You first said it wrote to the swap file but when you were called on that you changed your story... No I said Linux Live can use the Windows swapfile. Whether it does or not depends on the one who compiled Linux. The end user has no say so in the matter. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 10:29 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:37 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: It is totally impossible for a Linux live cd to do anything to a Windows installation unless that partition is mounted first I know for a fact that statement isn't true. Then you've proven you know less than nothing Maybe you need to do a little research on what it means to mount a file system What? Is this a joke? No mounting knowledge is necessary to boot Ubuntu Live and then shutting it back down again. And I am the one that has proven to know less than nothing? OK I specifically said you can not modify anything on a drive unless you first mount it...again you have changed your story... No I haven't. I said just booting Linux Live and exiting, Windows got trashed. Maybe you should consider it's time to quit trolling now No trolling from me. You claimed Linux Live wouldn't touch the Windows drive until you mount it. Then why does Linux Live flash my hard drive lights while Linux is loading from CD for? I booted up BartPE from CD and the Windows drive light never lit up once. So BartPE isn't accessing the Windows drive, but Linux is. How do you explain that one? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:06:07 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
In , Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. No way! Any halfwit can figure it out. It isn't that hard. Since *you* didn't figure it out, does that make you less than a halfwit? Run Linux and Windows gets trashed. Except that it *doesn't* happen to anyone but you. Ergo, the problem is at your end, in the form of either user error or system problems. Saying anything other than Linux is doing it wouldn't make any sense. This isn't rocket science you know. It's not Linux, it's you. So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. It doesn't matter what OS is on the drive. The claim is that Linux Live won't touch it. And I know for a fact that is wrong! I continue to doubt you. If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. So you trashed your Windows system at least 3 times today? Maybe the image you're restoring from is AFU. Philo says that doesn't happen. Yet I bet it happens for everybody on any system. Why? What is Linux doing with the Windows drive? I don't know Philo, but I know you. Of the two of you, I'll trust Philo every time. (As I'm sure you know, you've blown your credibility over and over and over again, multiple times, so there isn't much reason for me to believe these latest claims.) |
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Char Jackson typed: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:06:07 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. No way! Any halfwit can figure it out. It isn't that hard. Since *you* didn't figure it out, does that make you less than a halfwit? I figured it out years ago. I am waiting for the rest to catch up. Run Linux and Windows gets trashed. Except that it *doesn't* happen to anyone but you. Ergo, the problem is at your end, in the form of either user error or system problems. Saying anything other than Linux is doing it wouldn't make any sense. This isn't rocket science you know. It's not Linux, it's you. Then why does your hard drive light flicker when you load Ubuntu Live? Are you being untruthful? So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. It doesn't matter what OS is on the drive. The claim is that Linux Live won't touch it. And I know for a fact that is wrong! I continue to doubt you. That is ok, I would trust the devil before I would trust you. If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. So you trashed your Windows system at least 3 times today? Maybe the image you're restoring from is AFU. Nope, I didn't trash it once today. But you always get things wrong. Nothing new there. Philo says that doesn't happen. Yet I bet it happens for everybody on any system. Why? What is Linux doing with the Windows drive? I don't know Philo, but I know you. Of the two of you, I'll trust Philo every time. (As I'm sure you know, you've blown your credibility over and over and over again, multiple times, so there isn't much reason for me to believe these latest claims.) That is because you believe yourself while you get everything wrong. So no surprise there either. Let's see, in this post alone you got nothing right yet. That isn't a surprise either. Even the devil has a far better batting average than that. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:43:54 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
In , Char Jackson typed: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:06:07 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. No way! Any halfwit can figure it out. It isn't that hard. Since *you* didn't figure it out, does that make you less than a halfwit? I figured it out years ago. I am waiting for the rest to catch up. Run Linux and Windows gets trashed. Except that it *doesn't* happen to anyone but you. Ergo, the problem is at your end, in the form of either user error or system problems. Saying anything other than Linux is doing it wouldn't make any sense. This isn't rocket science you know. It's not Linux, it's you. Then why does your hard drive light flicker when you load Ubuntu Live? Are you being untruthful? So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. It doesn't matter what OS is on the drive. The claim is that Linux Live won't touch it. And I know for a fact that is wrong! I continue to doubt you. That is ok, I would trust the devil before I would trust you. If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. So you trashed your Windows system at least 3 times today? Maybe the image you're restoring from is AFU. Nope, I didn't trash it once today. But you always get things wrong. Nothing new there. So your claim that booting from your live CD would trash your system was bogus? No surprise there, but thanks for confirming. You know, they say the hardest part about lying is remembering the lies. Looks like you forgot part of your story. |
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Char Jackson typed: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:43:54 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , Char Jackson typed: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:06:07 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:37 -0500, "BillW50" wrote: In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? Sorry, Bill, but the theories of Glen and philo make sense, while your theory doesn't. No way! Any halfwit can figure it out. It isn't that hard. Since *you* didn't figure it out, does that make you less than a halfwit? I figured it out years ago. I am waiting for the rest to catch up. Run Linux and Windows gets trashed. Except that it *doesn't* happen to anyone but you. Ergo, the problem is at your end, in the form of either user error or system problems. Saying anything other than Linux is doing it wouldn't make any sense. This isn't rocket science you know. It's not Linux, it's you. Then why does your hard drive light flicker when you load Ubuntu Live? Are you being untruthful? So far it's one person, you, claiming to have a problem with one system, an old XP SP2 system with a bit of non-mainstream software installed, and using one live distro. It doesn't matter what OS is on the drive. The claim is that Linux Live won't touch it. And I know for a fact that is wrong! I continue to doubt you. That is ok, I would trust the devil before I would trust you. If you want to be taken seriously, start testing on other systems, with other OS and software mixes, and with other live distros. One person, one PC, and one distro is not enough to draw a solid conclusion, but so far it looks like user error or something to do with the obsolete system that you supposedly tested. I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. So you trashed your Windows system at least 3 times today? Maybe the image you're restoring from is AFU. Nope, I didn't trash it once today. But you always get things wrong. Nothing new there. So your claim that booting from your live CD would trash your system was bogus? No surprise there, but thanks for confirming. You know, they say the hardest part about lying is remembering the lies. Looks like you forgot part of your story. Nope, I never lie, Char! Nor do I have a reason to. Plus I've seen some of my very old posts in the archives and they are still true today as they were back then. Check it out yourself. Also like I said earlier today, which you clipped out: "I haven't got the same conditions that I did back in 2009 yet. That will take some time to setup yet. I even still have backups from back then too." Then again you can't seem to get anything right. That is too bad. Tsk-tsk. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
"BillW50" wrote in message
... I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows drive a number of times while Linux was booting. Philo says that doesn't happen. Yet I bet it happens for everybody on any system. Why? What is Linux doing with the Windows drive? I tried the same with BartPE. And BartPE booted completely and the Windows drive light never lit up even once. So there is no way anybody is going to tell me that Linux Live doesn't touch your Windows drive. As the drive's access light is saying otherwise. snip While loading, a Linux Live CD checks if any hard drives are attached to the system, so it can list them in the Linux GUI if the user wants to mount them later. That's why the hard drive light flashes.... it has nothing to do with "accessing" or writing to the hard drive, or executing anything on the hard drive. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
"BillW50" wrote in message
... In , glee wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee wrote: Bill, in this scenario you describe, are you saying you attribute running the Linux Live CD to causing the Windows Installer pop-up when you started Windows? Are you implying that the Linux CD boot caused the execution of a Windows Installer executable, even though Linux can't run a Windows Installer file? How do you figure that? Windows Installer pop-ups like that are due to an incomplete or faulty install of a program that uses Windows Installer. How do you reconcile that with your claim? No Glen... what I am saying that this Windows XP runs fine and dandy for years. No problems whatsoever. I don't know if iband.dll involves the Windows Installer every time it boots? I might, but you never see the window. Anyway no problems whatsoever. Now you just boot up Ubuntu Live and do nothing with it. Don't peek into the Windows partition or anything. And just shut Linux down. Totally harmless I would think. Now if you boot Windows XP, it locks up. What gives? It was Linux Live, plain and simple. I have demonstrated this a number of times and it happened every single time. There is no excuse, Linux is doing something to Windows. Sure whatever it is doing, most users wouldn't know a thing. I truly believe that. But whatever it is doing it can make some Windows unbootable. As far as I am concern, whether Linux Live leaves Windows bootable or not. That isn't the point. The most important point is that it shouldn't be doing anything to Windows at all without your permission. But it does and I caught it with my XP system (and it is reproducible). ...yet no one else seems to have repro'd it or documented it. That tends to point to an issue on your system, not with Linux Live CD. As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. You can't be serious? It is documented for one. It is documented when you compile the source. And how do you explain it is my system? You can't come up with one single working theory how it can be my system! This isn't rocket science. Any five year old can figure this out. But you can't? Why is that? You apparently don't understand the meaning of "documented" in this dialog. It has nothing to do with compiling, that statement doesn't make sense. I stated no one else has reproduced your issue, it is not documented as being an issue anywhere I have seen other than in your posts about it. I already gave you a working theory... it's some issue with your system. How can I explain what, when I am not on your system? As you seem to be the only person in the world reporting this, on one computer, that points pretty clearly to it being that system's issue, not the Linux Live CD boot. I say once again, we will have to agree to disagree on this. Casting aspersions on those who doubt your conclusion is just silly.... your disparaging comments about "any five year old", "not rocket science" and so forth, are just examples of using insults when evidence is not available. It's a very sorry way to discuss something. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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