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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Rene |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote:
On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C? All Settings Ease of Access Colour & High Contrast Apply colour filter Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? As I recall, AutoHotkey (and probably other similar utilities, like AutoIt) let you not only remap keys but also key combinations. It is primarily a macro tool to build a series of keystrokes and mouse clicks but can also remap keys and key combos. The Autohotkey forums would be the best place to ask about key combo remapping. I suspect you have to write a script that checks for multiple downpress scan codes (unless you want the action to only occur on the uppress or release of the keys). In the past, there was Hotkey Commander (http://hkcmdr.anymania.com/) that queried which keys or combos were registered to what handler. It only listed hotkeys in system scope; that is, it did not list hotkeys hard encoded within applications (aka accelerator keys), only those that were registered in the registry via the Windows API. For example, I remember using WM_(Set|Get)Hotkey to find what hotkey was registered for which handler. These and other key remappers would, I think, have to install a driver to stack with the existing one to intercept the scancodes from the keyboard that are then sent to the OS or to a process. Alas, Hotkey Commander has not been updated and lists Windows 7 as the last supported version of that OS. Users trying it on Windows 8, or later, reported weird and unwanted effects, as though it were pressing every key and combo to log what handler was registered for that scancode or combo scancodes. Maybe there are alternatives to Hotkey Commander that support Windoes 8, and beyond (and don't effect the unwanted behavior of activating the scancodes to then monitor which handler triggers on the key or combo). There are some tools that adjust the registered actions or handlers for a key. They let you use Windows' registry to remap the keys. For example: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...dows-xp-vista/ However, from what I saw of the snapshots, that lets you remap only the keypresses for single keys, not for combo of keys simultaneously pressed. I know of one key map registry entry for some actions (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Explorer\AppKey) which are often used by multimedia keyboards to perform actions with their buttons but without having to install any macro software. I'd have to install Sharpkeys to monitor registry changes to see where it was modifying key definitions. Again, this seems to be a single key remapper. Each time you press a key, a scan code gets sent from the keyboard. When you release the key, another scan code gets sent. That way the OS or app can differentiate between when you downpressed a key and when you released. Seems it would take a registered handler (program) to recognize a key combo. You don't just want [single] key remapping. You want key sequence remapping and that requires something to monitor and define an action on the sequence, and that seems to put you into the realm of keyboard macros. Don't know what you are using to current define your Win+Ctrl+C key sequence trigger to run a macro. Presumably it doesn't delve into overriding the system key combos which means you need something that can. The macro utilities that come with keyboards are usually not very robust (if that's what you're using). The ones that I've heard of are AutoHotkey and AutoIt (both have forums where you can ask for help). I've used AutoHotkey but that was many years ago and quit using it about just as long ago when whatever reason ceased that I needed it back then. If you don't want to toss in more software, and since single key remapping doesn't seem to fit your need to define a handler that monitors for key sequences (combos), probably the easiest solution is to reprogram your finger memory to use a different key combo defined in your macro program (you didn't which one you are using). Because Microsoft made Windows "as a service", that OS will keep getting functionality and behavioral updates (not just security updates or patches) and behavior will continue to change with the same version of Windows. Now there are no new versions, just builds to Windows 10, introducing behavioral changes within a version is what they've forced themselves into doing. "How it worked in Windows 10 is not how it will remain in Windows 10" (the king is dead, long live the king). You now have to track changes across builds of the same Windows 10 version. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:08:06 +0000, Terry
Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the I didn't know about this before but it "works" for me too. Why would someone want to get rid of the color? subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... There is AutoHotKey and KeyRemapper. The latter is much easier to use but iirc costs money. AutoHotKey is free, more versatile and very powerful, but more complicated. You woudln't want to just reassign a key-combination to some other key, but to call a program, your macro. It might be able to do that... From the AHK help file: "Run / RunWait Runs an external program. Unlike Run, RunWait will wait until the program finishes before continuing. Target A document, URL, executable file (.exe, .com, .bat, etc.), shortcut (.lnk), or system verb to launch (see remarks). " Is a macro already an "executable file"? Or can you package your macro as one? If so, we might be talking about just a 2 or 3 line 'script'. Once you have ahk running, you can do other things with it. I use it to turn the sound on and off and adjust the volume, so I no longer need a multimedia keyboard. (I found it very difficult to use the logic of AHK. Specifically, I didn't want to redirect Pause when a CMD box or TCC/Le box was running (because Pause has a real function then), and I know it can do that, but I couldn't get it to. I didn't want to redirect numeric / or * when Calc was running and I know it can do that, but I couldn't get it to.(but I already just use the cursor to click on those symbols on the screen.)) But you would want your change to happen all the time, so that kind of logic wouldn't be needed. Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:08:06 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Best revert to 1703. |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems? |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in
Houston TX wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. I think you're assuming it's an option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems? I can imagine that that would work, but I can also imagine that it won't change the call when you press those keys, only what happens next, what gets called. In JCL it was IEFBR14, that is br 14, branch to register 14, which contained the address of the step that followed the calling instruction, that is, wherever it was called from. In other words, it would do nothing. So if it does nothing, I think it best to remap the key combo to another function before it gets that far. |
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Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in
Houston TX wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems? Ah, you're saying Terry didn't read to the end of Rene's article. I agree. |
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems? There are some GPEdit functions. Easiest from Win10 Pro. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../cc938769.aspx "Prevents users from changing accessibility settings" Happy experimenting, Paul |
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micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in Houston TX wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)? Terry, East Grinstead, UK Have a look here and see if this works. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10 Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable the option. I think you're assuming it's an option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems? I can imagine that that would work, but I can also imagine that it won't change the call when you press those keys, only what happens next, what gets called. In JCL it was IEFBR14, that is br 14, branch to register 14, which contained the address of the step that followed the calling instruction, that is, wherever it was called from. In other words, it would do nothing. So if it does nothing, I think it best to remap the key combo to another function before it gets that far. That's an interesting thought... disabling the color filters also disables the combined key process and not just the color filters. |
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:23:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro, used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it. Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but... DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C? I've got an Autohotkey script triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C and it works fine. Just produces a key sequence to login to a much used website. (Win v1709, OS Build 16299.192) |
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On 23/1/2018 02:28, Terry Pinnell wrote:
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote: I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the .... .... All Settings Ease of Access Colour & High Contrast Apply colour filter Thanks! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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