Disabling the new Win+Ctrl+C hotkey?

I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C?

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On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Rene

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote:

On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C?

All Settings Ease of Access Colour & High Contrast Apply colour
filter

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:

I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

As I recall, AutoHotkey (and probably other similar utilities, like
AutoIt) let you not only remap keys but also key combinations. It is
primarily a macro tool to build a series of keystrokes and mouse clicks
but can also remap keys and key combos. The Autohotkey forums would be
the best place to ask about key combo remapping. I suspect you have to
write a script that checks for multiple downpress scan codes (unless you
want the action to only occur on the uppress or release of the keys).

In the past, there was Hotkey Commander (http://hkcmdr.anymania.com/)
that queried which keys or combos were registered to what handler. It
only listed hotkeys in system scope; that is, it did not list hotkeys
hard encoded within applications (aka accelerator keys), only those that
were registered in the registry via the Windows API. For example, I
remember using WM_(Set|Get)Hotkey to find what hotkey was registered for
which handler. These and other key remappers would, I think, have to
install a driver to stack with the existing one to intercept the
scancodes from the keyboard that are then sent to the OS or to a
process. Alas, Hotkey Commander has not been updated and lists Windows
7 as the last supported version of that OS. Users trying it on Windows
8, or later, reported weird and unwanted effects, as though it were
pressing every key and combo to log what handler was registered for that
scancode or combo scancodes. Maybe there are alternatives to Hotkey
Commander that support Windoes 8, and beyond (and don't effect the
unwanted behavior of activating the scancodes to then monitor which
handler triggers on the key or combo).

There are some tools that adjust the registered actions or handlers for
a key. They let you use Windows' registry to remap the keys. For
example:

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...dows-xp-vista/

However, from what I saw of the snapshots, that lets you remap only the
keypresses for single keys, not for combo of keys simultaneously
pressed. I know of one key map registry entry for some actions
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Explorer\AppKey)
which are often used by multimedia keyboards to perform actions with
their buttons but without having to install any macro software. I'd
have to install Sharpkeys to monitor registry changes to see where it
was modifying key definitions. Again, this seems to be a single key
remapper. Each time you press a key, a scan code gets sent from the
keyboard. When you release the key, another scan code gets sent. That
way the OS or app can differentiate between when you downpressed a key
and when you released. Seems it would take a registered handler
(program) to recognize a key combo. You don't just want [single] key
remapping. You want key sequence remapping and that requires something
to monitor and define an action on the sequence, and that seems to put
you into the realm of keyboard macros. Don't know what you are using to
current define your Win+Ctrl+C key sequence trigger to run a macro.
Presumably it doesn't delve into overriding the system key combos which
means you need something that can. The macro utilities that come with
keyboards are usually not very robust (if that's what you're using).
The ones that I've heard of are AutoHotkey and AutoIt (both have forums
where you can ask for help). I've used AutoHotkey but that was many
years ago and quit using it about just as long ago when whatever reason
ceased that I needed it back then.

If you don't want to toss in more software, and since single key
remapping doesn't seem to fit your need to define a handler that
monitors for key sequences (combos), probably the easiest solution is to
reprogram your finger memory to use a different key combo defined in
your macro program (you didn't which one you are using). Because
Microsoft made Windows "as a service", that OS will keep getting
functionality and behavioral updates (not just security updates or
patches) and behavior will continue to change with the same version of
Windows. Now there are no new versions, just builds to Windows 10,
introducing behavioral changes within a version is what they've forced
themselves into doing. "How it worked in Windows 10 is not how it will
remain in Windows 10" (the king is dead, long live the king). You now
have to track changes across builds of the same Windows 10 version.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:08:06 +0000, Terry
Pinnell wrote:

I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the

I didn't know about this before but it "works" for me too.

Why would someone want to get rid of the color?

subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

There is AutoHotKey and KeyRemapper. The latter is much easier to use
but iirc costs money.

AutoHotKey is free, more versatile and very powerful, but more
complicated. You woudln't want to just reassign a key-combination to
some other key, but to call a program, your macro. It might be able to
do that... From the AHK help file:

"Run / RunWait

Runs an external program. Unlike Run, RunWait will wait until the
program finishes before continuing.

Target A document, URL, executable file (.exe, .com, .bat, etc.),
shortcut (.lnk), or system verb to launch (see remarks). "

Is a macro already an "executable file"? Or can you package your macro
as one?

If so, we might be talking about just a 2 or 3 line 'script'. Once you
have ahk running, you can do other things with it. I use it to turn the
sound on and off and adjust the volume, so I no longer need a multimedia
keyboard.

(I found it very difficult to use the logic of AHK. Specifically, I
didn't want to redirect Pause when a CMD box or TCC/Le box was running
(because Pause has a real function then), and I know it can do that, but
I couldn't get it to. I didn't want to redirect numeric / or * when
Calc was running and I know it can do that, but I couldn't get it
to.(but I already just use the cursor to click on those symbols on the
screen.))

But you would want your change to happen all the time, so that kind of
logic wouldn't be needed.

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:08:06 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Best revert to 1703.

Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in
Houston TX wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option.

I think you're assuming it's an option.

for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems?

I can imagine that that would work, but I can also imagine that it won't
change the call when you press those keys, only what happens next, what
gets called. In JCL it was IEFBR14, that is br 14, branch to register
14, which contained the address of the step that followed the calling
instruction, that is, wherever it was called from. In other words, it
would do nothing. So if it does nothing, I think it best to remap the
key combo to another function before it gets that far.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in
Houston TX wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems?

Ah, you're saying Terry didn't read to the end of Rene's article. I
agree.

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10


Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option. for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other
problems?


There are some GPEdit functions. Easiest from Win10 Pro.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../cc938769.aspx

"Prevents users from changing accessibility settings"

Happy experimenting,
Paul

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:55:02 -0600, Paul in
Houston TX wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 01/22/2018 10:08 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

Maybe a registry hack (but not turning off ALL use of Winkey)?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Have a look here and see if this works.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/fix-...ale-windows-10

Thanks Rene, but I know how to get the colour back! I want to disable
the option.

I think you're assuming it's an option.

for the reason given: it conflicts with mine.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does disabling the function, per Rene's post, not work or causes other problems?

I can imagine that that would work, but I can also imagine that it won't
change the call when you press those keys, only what happens next, what
gets called. In JCL it was IEFBR14, that is br 14, branch to register
14, which contained the address of the step that followed the calling
instruction, that is, wherever it was called from. In other words, it
would do nothing. So if it does nothing, I think it best to remap the
key combo to another function before it gets that far.

That's an interesting thought...
disabling the color filters also disables the combined key process and not
just the color filters.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:23:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
subject hotkey. Happens to be the hotkey for my own most used macro,
used for a decade or two and I'm reluctant to change it.

Is there any way to disable it? Brief googling implies not, but...

DO you know the name of the function that was triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C?
I've got an Autohotkey script triggered by Ctrl+Alt+C and it works
fine. Just produces a key sequence to login to a much used website.
(Win v1709, OS Build 16299.192)

On 23/1/2018 02:28, Terry Pinnell wrote:
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote:

On 23/1/2018 00:08, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I had a short period of panic when all colour on my screen was replaced
by grey. Turns out to be due to the 1709 WU, which has introduced the
....
....
All Settings Ease of Access Colour & High Contrast Apply colour
filter

Thanks!

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