bootdisc to get files off a corrupted installation

Sorry. They are still your support.

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Then try calling them with the simplest of problems. Their number is 800
457
7777. Watch as the guy either tires to wriggle out of helping you at all
by
asking interminable irrelevant questions and then says "just let me double
check that" (implying that there is something to DOUBLE check when in
reality he is completely untrained and hasnt the vaguest idea what you are
talking about, - this is Indian tech support at its cheapest) and tells
you
to put the recovery disc in and restart your computer.

The first time it happened to me, I was a slight newbie, and had a very
minor SCSI termination problem on a Zip drive which anyone with five
minutes
training could have identified. Hardly a reason to destroy all my data,
configurations and software. But a problem which a recovery disc wouldnt
help with in the slightest. When I demurred, he got his supervisor who had
the temerity to ask if I was refusing to do what they said!!

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I find it very hard to believe that Toshiba does not support what they
sell
unless you made a purchase outside of their support policies.

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None whatsoever: Toshiba don't offer technical support any more.They
suppose
that only the serious user buys their computers who all have their own
MIS
departments. Which is probably why they only offer a recovery disc

SO they only have people who answer phones, pretned to listen to a
problem
and tell everyone to destroy all their data and configurations by using
the
recovery disc


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What support are you recieving from the manufacturer?

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Sorry not to have given a fuller explanation

Initially I had an installation in which various stages weren't
working:
The
PC card stage, USB, and various other bits. I did a repair install
and
SFC
etc. The whole thing started to get better but still vital parts
weren't
working. At that stage I probably had an irretrievably broken
system.
SO
I
found a Microsoft Backup file on my D drive which seemed to include
a
restore system state provision which presumably meant a registry
dating
from
the time Windows was working properly. As a last resort, I installed
that
backup, ticking the C drive, the D drive and the system state. THAT
killed
the whole OS. Then it would do nothing other than give me a BSOD
after
the
initial seven second XP splash-screen-with-flowing-blue-dots.

So I booted from the install CD and did a repair install of XP. It
failed
to
finish numerous times (although to be fair it did tell me that it
was
identifying that REPAIR had not completed the last time I tried it).
It
did
delete various install files from some directory I had never heard
of
called
$NT_USER$ or something and installed its own install files into its
own
install directory. It THEN rebooted and when I let it go to its hard
drive
to install the OS from those files, THAT is when it started looping.
I
cant
imagine there is any way of resuscitating this dead system and want
to
do
a
full reinstall on the C drive, wiping that partition in the process
because
otherwise all registries there which would be found on restart are
irretrievably corrupted. I know that there isn't a scanreg /restore
function within XP whereby you can restore an old registry like
there
used
to be on windows 98.

Hi Cliff

Great idea: Looks like a great resource but I had a severe problem with
creating the boot disc: I have easy CD creator and haven't had any problems
with creating CDs thus far with this software. However when I tried to
create the boot disc from the ISO which I downloaded and then used their
tool to slipstream, I started getting error messages BIG TIME

For example:
E80041927 TrackWriter eror ASPI failure [T7121]
E80041934 TrackWriter eror flush failed [T7127]
E80004005 TrackWriter eror ASPI failure [T7121]
Unspecified error

All on the same write attempt and on two discs.

Is there some reason why writes end up this way when you are trying to burn
an XP bootable CD?

You could try Bart's PE CD. http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

I found the same thing. For some reason when I dropped the .iso icon onto
the Roxio Drag to Disk icon Roxio burned the cd but then reported that the
639mb file was too large. I suspect I am reusing some older cd's so I am
going to get some fresh ones and see if it goes OK. I also suspect that I
need to update Roxio.

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Hi Cliff

Great idea: Looks like a great resource but I had a severe problem with
creating the boot disc: I have easy CD creator and haven't had any
problems
with creating CDs thus far with this software. However when I tried to
create the boot disc from the ISO which I downloaded and then used their
tool to slipstream, I started getting error messages BIG TIME

For example:
E80041927 TrackWriter eror ASPI failure [T7121]
E80041934 TrackWriter eror flush failed [T7127]
E80004005 TrackWriter eror ASPI failure [T7121]
Unspecified error

All on the same write attempt and on two discs.

Is there some reason why writes end up this way when you are trying to
burn
an XP bootable CD?

You could try Bart's PE CD. http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

I found the same thing. For some reason when I dropped the .iso icon onto
the Roxio Drag to Disk icon Roxio burned the cd but then reported that the
639mb
file was too large. I suspect I am reusing some older cd's so I am going
to get some fresh ones and see if it goes OK. I also suspect that I need
to update Roxio.

Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

V Interesting: I have so far composed three coasters from a program on which
I have never managed to make coasters before. And they all have the same
error message at the same (two thirds of the way through burning) part of
the disc so it ISNT the disc. My Roxio is completely updated except that it
is the bundled version of which I ALSO have the Platinum version: I wonder
if there is any point in moving to the Platinum version and updating the
serial number? Roxio calls it an 'upgrade' but this seems like propaganda
which they cant support with explanations: I tried asking them if there
were any differences between the Platinum version and the bundled version
and they didn't seem to know.

(Dont burn any more coasters until we have this worked out)

I'm not sure who is typing what in your message... anyway, you do not use
Drag to Disk to burn an ISO image! If roxio (YUK) even finished the burn it
would still not work! You need to use the disk mastering section of EZ CD
Creator to burn an image file to CD. BTW, I have used Bart's PE CD and it
will read your drive if there is any thing left to read.

BTW, couldn't you find a few more groups to cross post to? Waste of
bandwidth...

Anyway, Good Luck!
Len
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I found the same thing. For some reason when I dropped the .iso icon
onto
the Roxio Drag to Disk icon Roxio burned the cd but then reported that the
639mb
file was too large. I suspect I am reusing some older cd's so I am
going
to get some fresh ones and see if it goes OK. I also suspect that I need
to update Roxio.

Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

V Interesting: I have so far composed three coasters from a program on
which
I have never managed to make coasters before. And they all have the same
error message at the same (two thirds of the way through burning) part of
the disc so it ISNT the disc. My Roxio is completely updated except that
it
is the bundled version of which I ALSO have the Platinum version: I wonder
if there is any point in moving to the Platinum version and updating the
serial number? Roxio calls it an 'upgrade' but this seems like propaganda
which they cant support with explanations: I tried asking them if there
were any differences between the Platinum version and the bundled version
and they didn't seem to know.

(Dont burn any more coasters until we have this worked out)

you do not use
Drag to Disk to burn an ISO image! If roxio (YUK) even finished the burn
it
would still not work! You need to use the disk mastering section of EZ CD
Creator to burn an image file to CD.

It's me doing the typing: What I am doing is what I THOUGHT I was told to
do on the download page: Not sure what Disc Mastering is. I open the ISO
using File, Record-CD-From-CD-Image in Easy CD Creator,
Highlight-the-ISO-file (it puts in two files totaling a few kilobytes) then
add all the files it tells you to add after you have done this by dragging
them from windows explorer to the Files section of the burn software? I
must admit to having had this problem even with the simplest and most
foolproof burning software, Sony CD Complete Pro Version 1.4 which only EVER
made coasters when I tried to add both files and folders to a job. Is there
a proper way of doing this in the Roxio application? Is the Platinum
version of Easy CD Creator any different from the bundled one in this
regard? I know they are constantly nagging me to upgrade and I DO have the
platinum version of 5 as well as the bundled one but the bundled one came
with the DVD burner and I was worried that the earlier platinum version was
one not designed for burning DVDs. I agree with you about it being a
catastrophic application (I was one of those who tried to use it with
Windows 2000) and with a company as unreliable as Roxio, you can understand
that the last thing I want to do is to start trying to upgrade it to
something which may have less functionality and then try to manually change
hundreds of registry entries when I have to downgrade it again or uninstall
it to put something else on my drive!!!

And sorry about the waste of bandwidth: The situation arises when you post
to a newsgroup and no one answers. (That is how this thread started, with a
few of those unanswered threads over a few weeks posted one place for a few
days or weeks, then another). I admit it shows I don't know how newsgroups
work but you sorta get the idea that no one knowledgeable was there for the
few weeks when you were looking so wonder if that is the proper newsgroup
for this type of posting in future. After you have done this a few times,
you learn that the only way you are going to get a response is by cross
posting. So you cross-post just to get a response. I thought that the
whole point of cross posting (as opposed to posting multiple times on
different groups) was NOT to waste bandwidth?

Sorry Len, let me correct that: When I try to open File,
record-cd-from-CD-image, it is greyed out:

What I actually use is I use is File, New-CD-Project, Bootable-CD then I
select the ISO file then I use drag and drop to add whatever files are in
the directory the BartPE page tells me to add to that project which I
thought would merely be added to the bootable CD.

Not sure what you have going on there?? When I open Roxio, then Creator
Classic under file I have Burn Disk from Image as a choice. It then pops up
a window allowing you to track down where you have stored that .iso file on
your system and select it. After that it is a straight forward operation to
burn the cd.

If it is an ISO of a bootable CD then there should be no need to set it up
specifically as a bootable CD. Have not used Bart for a time - thank
goodness no need to. So do not recall exactly how I burned the disk.
However, a good iso should be bootable without issue if it was properly
created from a bootable CD.

Anyway, good luck - about all I can offer,
Len
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Sorry Len, let me correct that: When I try to open File,
record-cd-from-CD-image, it is greyed out:

What I actually use is I use is File, New-CD-Project, Bootable-CD then I
select the ISO file then I use drag and drop to add whatever files are in
the directory the BartPE page tells me to add to that project which I
thought would merely be added to the bootable CD.

I made the Bart PE iso and used this program to burn it..
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm I just made the
ISO..right click and choose Copy Image to CD and it boots fine.

"Len" wrote in message
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Not sure what you have going on there?? When I open Roxio, then Creator
Classic under file I have Burn Disk from Image as a choice. It then pops
up a window allowing you to track down where you have stored that .iso
file on your system and select it. After that it is a straight forward
operation to burn the cd.

If it is an ISO of a bootable CD then there should be no need to set it up
specifically as a bootable CD. Have not used Bart for a time - thank
goodness no need to. So do not recall exactly how I burned the disk.
However, a good iso should be bootable without issue if it was properly
created from a bootable CD.

Anyway, good luck - about all I can offer,
Len
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Sorry Len, let me correct that: When I try to open File,
record-cd-from-CD-image, it is greyed out:

What I actually use is I use is File, New-CD-Project, Bootable-CD then I
select the ISO file then I use drag and drop to add whatever files are in
the directory the BartPE page tells me to add to that project which I
thought would merely be added to the bootable CD.

Actually it is a bit easier than that: I found that my problem was trying to
use BART to create an ISO for burning. If you let BART do the whole process
itself including the burn, it burns and the disc works. Since then I have
tried making an ISO just to be sure and it DIDN'T burn. In my Roxio there
isn't the option you mention, just the create bootable CD option in which
you are asked to burn from an ISO. Then it doesn't do so. Sometimes it cant
even find its ISO in OPEN!!

Anyway BART seems to be a powerful and useful program which did exactly what
I wanted, It might even repair the XP installation for me, though I doubt it
so I am going to format and reinstall having taken all necessary files off
onto the D drive

"Ricky" wrote in message
.. .
I made the Bart PE iso and used this program to burn it..
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm I just made the
ISO..right click and choose Copy Image to CD and it boots fine.

"Len" wrote in message
...
Not sure what you have going on there?? When I open Roxio, then Creator
Classic under file I have Burn Disk from Image as a choice. It then
pops
up a window allowing you to track down where you have stored that .iso
file on your system and select it. After that it is a straight forward
operation to burn the cd.

If it is an ISO of a bootable CD then there should be no need to set it
up
specifically as a bootable CD. Have not used Bart for a time - thank
goodness no need to. So do not recall exactly how I burned the disk.
However, a good iso should be bootable without issue if it was properly
created from a bootable CD.

Anyway, good luck - about all I can offer,
Len
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Sorry Len, let me correct that: When I try to open File,
record-cd-from-CD-image, it is greyed out:

What I actually use is I use is File, New-CD-Project, Bootable-CD then
I
select the ISO file then I use drag and drop to add whatever files are
in
the directory the BartPE page tells me to add to that project which I
thought would merely be added to the bootable CD.

In Roxio I think it is called "Image to Disk" in Classic.

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Actually it is a bit easier than that: I found that my problem was trying
to
use BART to create an ISO for burning. If you let BART do the whole
process
itself including the burn, it burns and the disc works. Since then I have
tried making an ISO just to be sure and it DIDN'T burn. In my Roxio there
isn't the option you mention, just the create bootable CD option in which
you are asked to burn from an ISO. Then it doesn't do so. Sometimes it
cant
even find its ISO in OPEN!!

Anyway BART seems to be a powerful and useful program which did exactly
what
I wanted, It might even repair the XP installation for me, though I doubt
it
so I am going to format and reinstall having taken all necessary files off
onto the D drive

"Ricky" wrote in message
.. .
I made the Bart PE iso and used this program to burn it..
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm I just made the
ISO..right click and choose Copy Image to CD and it boots fine.

"Len" wrote in message
...
Not sure what you have going on there?? When I open Roxio, then
Creator
Classic under file I have Burn Disk from Image as a choice. It then
pops
up a window allowing you to track down where you have stored that .iso
file on your system and select it. After that it is a straight forward
operation to burn the cd.

If it is an ISO of a bootable CD then there should be no need to set it
up
specifically as a bootable CD. Have not used Bart for a time - thank
goodness no need to. So do not recall exactly how I burned the disk.
However, a good iso should be bootable without issue if it was properly
created from a bootable CD.

Anyway, good luck - about all I can offer,
Len
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Sorry Len, let me correct that: When I try to open File,
record-cd-from-CD-image, it is greyed out:

What I actually use is I use is File, New-CD-Project, Bootable-CD
then
I
select the ISO file then I use drag and drop to add whatever files are
in
the directory the BartPE page tells me to add to that project which I
thought would merely be added to the bootable CD.

news.microsoft.com wrote:

Actually it is a bit easier than that: I found that my problem was trying to
use BART to create an ISO for burning. If you let BART do the whole process
itself including the burn, it burns and the disc works. Since then I have
tried making an ISO just to be sure and it DIDN'T burn. In my Roxio there
isn't the option you mention, just the create bootable CD option in which
you are asked to burn from an ISO. Then it doesn't do so. Sometimes it cant
even find its ISO in OPEN!!

Anyway BART seems to be a powerful and useful program which did exactly what
I wanted, It might even repair the XP installation for me, though I doubt it
so I am going to format and reinstall having taken all necessary files off
onto the D drive

I'm glad you got there in the end! I use Nero so, while the
conversation was interesting, I couldn't help.

Cheers,

Cliff

Ah yes, but as I mentioned, with a company as unreliable as Roxio, I didnt
dare to change from Basic which burns DVDs to Platinum in version 5: I
don't know what unsupported problems it might create which I would then be
forced to spend months trying to rectify. They wont tell me if it does
actually represent any sort of upgrade (except for their marketing purposes)
so I am equally forced to rely on the adage "if it aint broke, dont fix it".

I prefer this site for Bootable CD:

http://ubcd4win.com/

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:42:35 +1300, Enkidu
wrote:

news.microsoft.com wrote:
I have a heavily corrupted installation of XP Pro on my laptop and need
probably to do a full reinstall. It is on a C drive, I have some files I
need to transfer onto a D partition before reinstalling as I presume there
is no way I could burn them onto a CD ROM under any circumstances. I dont
have a floppy on this machine.

A repair install just involves sending the computer around in loops where it
turns off at the blue restarting setup screen and starts the loop again.I
MAY try creating a slipstreamed XP Install disk with SP2 on it but don't
hold out much hope.

Is there some way of burning a CD on another computer which will be the
equivalent of a Windows 98 floppy which I can boot from and then move all
files? (I did google this a few times and found a place where I was shown
how to do this which involved downloading a measly 2Kb Microsoft .img file
and burning whatever that created to a CD and THAT didn't work). I also
started Easy CD Creator and searched for boot.ini, NDETECT and NTLDR in all
files to try to burn that onto a CD but for some reason couldn't find them
on my drive, either with a simple search or in the system/hidden files.
Anyway am wondering if simply burning these files onto a CD creates a
bootable CD with all utilities on it to let me copy these files or xcopy the
my documents directory to the D drive as suggested? (I am hoping there is a
way of reinstalling the OS without FDisking the D drive out of existence).


You could try Bart's PE CD. You will need to download the
iso and get someone to burn it to CD. If you do this,
*follow the instructions* properly. You do not just copy the
iso to the CD.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Cheers,

Cliff

I second David about ubcd4win.

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I prefer this site for Bootable CD:

http://ubcd4win.com/

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:42:35 +1300, Enkidu
wrote:

news.microsoft.com wrote:
I have a heavily corrupted installation of XP Pro on my laptop and need
probably to do a full reinstall. It is on a C drive, I have some files
I
need to transfer onto a D partition before reinstalling as I presume
there
is no way I could burn them onto a CD ROM under any circumstances. I
dont
have a floppy on this machine.

A repair install just involves sending the computer around in loops
where it
turns off at the blue restarting setup screen and starts the loop
again.I
MAY try creating a slipstreamed XP Install disk with SP2 on it but don't
hold out much hope.

Is there some way of burning a CD on another computer which will be the
equivalent of a Windows 98 floppy which I can boot from and then move
all
files? (I did google this a few times and found a place where I was
shown
how to do this which involved downloading a measly 2Kb Microsoft .img
file
and burning whatever that created to a CD and THAT didn't work). I also
started Easy CD Creator and searched for boot.ini, NDETECT and NTLDR in
all
files to try to burn that onto a CD but for some reason couldn't find
them
on my drive, either with a simple search or in the system/hidden files.
Anyway am wondering if simply burning these files onto a CD creates a
bootable CD with all utilities on it to let me copy these files or xcopy
the
my documents directory to the D drive as suggested? (I am hoping there
is a
way of reinstalling the OS without FDisking the D drive out of
existence).


You could try Bart's PE CD. You will need to download the
iso and get someone to burn it to CD. If you do this,
*follow the instructions* properly. You do not just copy the
iso to the CD.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Cheers,

Cliff