Goodbye Linux: Why am ditching linux and going back to Windows 10

Ken Blake wrote:

But each to his own. If you prefer multiple devices,
that's fine with me. But that doesn't mean that everyone
else will have the same preferences you do.

You're ****ting me... 8-O

Dan Purgert wrote:
123456789 wrote:
Bud Frede wrote:

All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing
one of the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on
most any device while just about anywhere.

That's what the Kindle app is for .

If you use the Kindle app (on a device) AND a Kindle
(device) that would be at least two devices. You earlier
said "What devices" (above). And if you want your ebook
devices synced then you will have to allow them to call
home. You previously said you didn't allow that. ????

Although personally, I find trying to "read a book" on my
phone's screen to be more straining on the eyes than the
actual Kindle.

Of course. But if it saves carrying around a Kindle when out
and about...

It's not so bad that I can't do it for an hour or so; but
if I've got more time on my hands, I prefer the e-ink
display.

Everybody has their preferences. Fortunately there's lots to
choose from.

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Dan Purgert wrote:
123456789 wrote:
Bud Frede wrote:

All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing
one of the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on
most any device while just about anywhere.

That's what the Kindle app is for .

If you use the Kindle app (on a device) AND a Kindle
(device) that would be at least two devices. You earlier
said "What devices" (above). And if you want your ebook

Oops, I must not have made Bud's post active when I replied. I didn't
intend to really make the point to your comment, 12345689.

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default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

ROFLAO
Have you ever (since say Windows 3.2) managed to get anything out of
Microsoft?

I didn't say "ask".

If they supply you a dud product, or "obsolete" a product, they owe you.

I do tend to be overbearing and truculent when dealing with vendors as
a matter of habit. It became evident that the bozo I was dealing with
had no intention of helping me and probably was only interested in his
sales commissions, and may have known less about the OS than I did.

I've had similar experiences with call centre staff; seems the only
training they get is rote-learnt apology scripts. Actual technical
knowledge is foreign to them.

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

That would have been an option.

It's available on the 'net, or I can send you a copy.

I think I did find an Android ap for
bit torrent, but Linux is smaller with less bloat and did everything I
needed without paying to re-install the applications I already owned.
Then there's the driver downloads, another catch-22? You need to be
on-line to download the driver to connect the wifi or ethernet to get
on-line. Linux worked right from the flash drive, no drivers needed.

I bought a Sony laptop with W 8.1 on it and decided it was a dud very
quickly. Got a 1 T HD and installed W 7 (preactivated pirate) and Linux.
For the usual driver nonsense, I went to the Sony website using Linux.
I already had all the 'Doze S/W I want on my file server, so that fixed
all of it.

One thing I'm very careful about though, is keeping Windows blind to
the internet. Micro$oft and Apple both include a trojan horse with their
systems. IMO, ewveryone in the world should keep their 'Doze and Apple
machines blind to the internet.

We can argue forever over the various merits of one strategy over
another, but a small flash drive with several distros of Linux costs
next to nothing and is good insurance.

So far I've never needed one, but then I run 8 computers, four of them
dual boot, one triple, and all running Linux. If 'Doze trashes itself,
I boot into Linux and repair the situation. Or reinstall it. If it
trashes the MBR, or if I've had to install doze after Linux, I boot
from an installation disc and run lilo.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:45:15 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

ROFLAO
Have you ever (since say Windows 3.2) managed to get anything out of
Microsoft?

I didn't say "ask".

If they supply you a dud product, or "obsolete" a product, they owe you.

And in a perfect world... I have a full satisfying and rewarding life
without dedicating my time to righting the wrongs of a corporate
oligarchy.

I do tend to be overbearing and truculent when dealing with vendors as
a matter of habit. It became evident that the bozo I was dealing with
had no intention of helping me and probably was only interested in his
sales commissions, and may have known less about the OS than I did.

I've had similar experiences with call centre staff; seems the only
training they get is rote-learnt apology scripts. Actual technical
knowledge is foreign to them.

I get the impression the best they are capable of is punching in a few
key words and parroting back what a screen displays.

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

That would have been an option.

It's available on the 'net, or I can send you a copy.

I have some pirate pre-activated copies burned to disk and on flash
drives. But that wasn't the case when I was away from home. I
dropped everything and got to NY ASAP to take care of my OM (he had a
stroke and wasn't able to care for himself, and I wasn't expecting to
stay for months...)

I think I did find an Android ap for
bit torrent, but Linux is smaller with less bloat and did everything I
needed without paying to re-install the applications I already owned.
Then there's the driver downloads, another catch-22? You need to be
on-line to download the driver to connect the wifi or ethernet to get
on-line. Linux worked right from the flash drive, no drivers needed.

I bought a Sony laptop with W 8.1 on it and decided it was a dud very
quickly. Got a 1 T HD and installed W 7 (preactivated pirate) and Linux.
For the usual driver nonsense, I went to the Sony website using Linux.
I already had all the 'Doze S/W I want on my file server, so that fixed
all of it.

Yeah. I usually buy off-lease corporate machines. Read some reviews,
then download the drivers before I place the order. I found that with
the pre-activated pirate copies, just switching the C drive from one
machine to another (of the same mobo/type) gets me up and running
instantly.

One thing I'm very careful about though, is keeping Windows blind to
the internet. Micro$oft and Apple both include a trojan horse with their
systems. IMO, ewveryone in the world should keep their 'Doze and Apple
machines blind to the internet.

I'm careful, but on the 'Net with a Mozilla or Midori browser. I
don't check credit cards or do any on-line banking or investing.

The lack of privacy and security has me concerned. Too many people
just don't care it seems. I went to a lawyer to have a will drawn up,
he, or one of his flunkies, sent me an email and after downloading the
full headers found he's using a Yahoo business account!

We can argue forever over the various merits of one strategy over
another, but a small flash drive with several distros of Linux costs
next to nothing and is good insurance.

So far I've never needed one, but then I run 8 computers, four of them
dual boot, one triple, and all running Linux. If 'Doze trashes itself,
I boot into Linux and repair the situation. Or reinstall it. If it
trashes the MBR, or if I've had to install doze after Linux, I boot
from an installation disc and run lilo.

I too have several computers and take care of my wife's machines as
well. I keep a couple small "eee-box" style computers for mobo
hardware failures.

default wrote in :
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:45:15 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:


----snip----

If they supply you a dud product, or "obsolete" a product, they owe you.

And in a perfect world... I have a full satisfying and rewarding life
without dedicating my time to righting the wrongs of a corporate
oligarchy.

They owe you. In an imperfect world, direct action might be needed.
Something "piracy", for example.

I didn't say that.

----snip----

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

That would have been an option.

It's available on the 'net, or I can send you a copy.

I have some pirate pre-activated copies burned to disk and on flash
drives. But that wasn't the case when I was away from home. I
dropped everything and got to NY ASAP to take care of my OM (he had a
stroke and wasn't able to care for himself, and I wasn't expecting to
stay for months...)

Sorry to hear it.

----snip----

I bought a Sony laptop with W 8.1 on it and decided it was a dud very
quickly. Got a 1 T HD and installed W 7 (preactivated pirate) and Linux.
For the usual driver nonsense, I went to the Sony website using Linux.
I already had all the 'Doze S/W I want on my file server, so that fixed
all of it.

Yeah. I usually buy off-lease corporate machines.

Back around the turn of the century I bought four second-hand machines
from a company that was going bust, but they're getting a bit scarce
these days. Charities are picking them up and giving away. With 'doze
on them of course. Nowadays I build my desktops.

Read some reviews,
then download the drivers before I place the order. I found that with
the pre-activated pirate copies, just switching the C drive from one
machine to another (of the same mobo/type) gets me up and running
instantly.

Clone drive?

One thing I'm very careful about though, is keeping Windows blind to
the internet. Micro$oft and Apple both include a trojan horse with their
systems. IMO, ewveryone in the world should keep their 'Doze and Apple
machines blind to the internet.

I'm careful, but on the 'Net with a Mozilla or Midori browser. I
don't check credit cards or do any on-line banking or investing.

The lack of privacy and security has me concerned. Too many people
just don't care it seems. I went to a lawyer to have a will drawn up,
he, or one of his flunkies, sent me an email and after downloading the
full headers found he's using a Yahoo business account!

Back in the 1990s I encountered the notion that encryption functions in
email like envelopes do in snail mail, but these days people just don't
seem to get it.

We can argue forever over the various merits of one strategy over
another, but a small flash drive with several distros of Linux costs
next to nothing and is good insurance.

So far I've never needed one, but then I run 8 computers, four of them
dual boot, one triple, and all running Linux. If 'Doze trashes itself,
I boot into Linux and repair the situation. Or reinstall it. If it
trashes the MBR, or if I've had to install doze after Linux, I boot
from an installation disc and run lilo.

I too have several computers and take care of my wife's machines as
well. I keep a couple small "eee-box" style computers for mobo
hardware failures.

What is "eee-box"?

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:19:06 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote in :
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:45:15 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:


----snip----

If they supply you a dud product, or "obsolete" a product, they owe you.

And in a perfect world... I have a full satisfying and rewarding life
without dedicating my time to righting the wrongs of a corporate
oligarchy.

They owe you. In an imperfect world, direct action might be needed.
Something "piracy", for example.

I didn't say that.

----snip----

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

That would have been an option.

It's available on the 'net, or I can send you a copy.

I have some pirate pre-activated copies burned to disk and on flash
drives. But that wasn't the case when I was away from home. I
dropped everything and got to NY ASAP to take care of my OM (he had a
stroke and wasn't able to care for himself, and I wasn't expecting to
stay for months...)

Sorry to hear it.

----snip----

I bought a Sony laptop with W 8.1 on it and decided it was a dud very
quickly. Got a 1 T HD and installed W 7 (preactivated pirate) and Linux.
For the usual driver nonsense, I went to the Sony website using Linux.
I already had all the 'Doze S/W I want on my file server, so that fixed
all of it.

Yeah. I usually buy off-lease corporate machines.

Back around the turn of the century I bought four second-hand machines
from a company that was going bust, but they're getting a bit scarce
these days. Charities are picking them up and giving away. With 'doze
on them of course. Nowadays I build my desktops.

Read some reviews,
then download the drivers before I place the order. I found that with
the pre-activated pirate copies, just switching the C drive from one
machine to another (of the same mobo/type) gets me up and running
instantly.

Clone drive?

I have cloned drives but with the pre-activated windows it doesn't
give you the unauthorized message that a new mobo will return.

I haven't tried it, but I'll bet that with the pirated and activated
Windows installation it would probably work with entirely different
systems as long as I had the right drivers for the different hardware.

One thing I'm very careful about though, is keeping Windows blind to
the internet. Micro$oft and Apple both include a trojan horse with their
systems. IMO, ewveryone in the world should keep their 'Doze and Apple
machines blind to the internet.

I'm careful, but on the 'Net with a Mozilla or Midori browser. I
don't check credit cards or do any on-line banking or investing.

The lack of privacy and security has me concerned. Too many people
just don't care it seems. I went to a lawyer to have a will drawn up,
he, or one of his flunkies, sent me an email and after downloading the
full headers found he's using a Yahoo business account!

Back in the 1990s I encountered the notion that encryption functions in
email like envelopes do in snail mail, but these days people just don't
seem to get it.

The encryption should be universal, automatic, and built into the
email software IMO.

Credit cards, social media and cell phones are even more destructive
to privacy.

Mozilla isn't helping.. they automatically stick a Google ID cookie
in the software (right out of the box) and there's no way to disable
it, or I haven't been able to... Last time I downloaded a copy for my
wife's W7 laptop, they wanted an email address before the software
would work - but I did find a copy that didn't ask for an email addy.

We can argue forever over the various merits of one strategy over
another, but a small flash drive with several distros of Linux costs
next to nothing and is good insurance.

So far I've never needed one, but then I run 8 computers, four of them
dual boot, one triple, and all running Linux. If 'Doze trashes itself,
I boot into Linux and repair the situation. Or reinstall it. If it
trashes the MBR, or if I've had to install doze after Linux, I boot
from an installation disc and run lilo.

I too have several computers and take care of my wife's machines as
well. I keep a couple small "eee-box" style computers for mobo
hardware failures.

What is "eee-box"?
Asus EeeBox PC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_EeeBox_PC

They can usually be had for ~$40, used, with memory HDD and preloaded
OS, external power supply and wifi antenna. Ultra quiet, small, very
low power, and does everything my desktop does. They seem to have
copper heat pipes to cool the processor and a quiet variable speed
blower. The ones I buy have both a VGA adapter and HDMI, plus a
external SATA HDD connector, so it makes a neat little smart TV or
multimedia adapter that runs Windows. Probably beats a $40+ Android
TV box.

Bud Frede wrote:
"Carlos E.R." writes:

On 13/10/2019 18.01, Bud Frede wrote:

I suppose that if I really found something that I needed and couldn't
get it or run it on Linux, I'd look into getting it for the Mac. I don't
like some of the things that Apple has done, but I find that MacOS gets
in my way far less than Windows ever did, and at least Apple isn't in
the business of selling advertising like MS and Google are, so maybe I
can trust them more with my data.

Problem for me, they are more expensive.


I was thinking about this not too long ago. Chromebooks are inexpensive,
but they collect your personal data and push advertising at you.

PCs can be less expensive, but Windows 10 collects your personal data,
and MS does have an interest in selling ads, just like Google does.

Macs are more expensive up front, but they don't seem to be selling your
personal data or pushing ads at you.

So would you rather pay more up front for a Mac, or pay less initially
for a Chromebook or Windows 10 laptop and keep paying forever with your
personal data?

You get what you pay for. Macs are officially supported for many years (5-6
often) and the OS/hardware integration is second to none. Chrome books are
cheap and you lose support relatively quickly. Windows has long support so
long as you keep updating which may require hardware upgrades and the
hardware integration is not guaranteed. Windows is not that expensive.
Linux is free, but requires time investment and has great community support
for forever. You may need to update now and again.

If i had the money I'd get a Mac except for gaming.

As it is i get my employer to buy me a Mac.

I realize it isn't as simple as that, but this was more of a thought
experiment. It did make me wonder about the hidden costs of the various
choices though.

It seems kind of weird that, with their walled garden and locked-down
ecosystem, Apple might still be more consumer-friendly than the other
companies. (Perhaps MS, Google, and Facebook are so awful that Apple
looks saintly in comparison?) :-)

On 17/10/2019 01.03, default wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:19:06 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

....

The encryption should be universal, automatic, and built into the
email software IMO.

Credit cards, social media and cell phones are even more destructive
to privacy.

Mozilla isn't helping.. they automatically stick a Google ID cookie
in the software (right out of the box) and there's no way to disable
it, or I haven't been able to...

You can change it at will. Using a private window disables it or creates
a new one on each window.

Last time I downloaded a copy for my
wife's W7 laptop, they wanted an email address before the software
would work - but I did find a copy that didn't ask for an email addy.

I have never seen Mozilla asking for an email - unless you activate the
sync feature.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Chris wrote:

Chrome books are cheap

Some Chromebooks sell for $1K.

and you lose support relatively quickly.

Most Chromebooks are supported for 6 years from product start.
Unfortunately if you buy late in the cycle to get a good price you
get less. I got 4 years. MS has the advantage in this department...

123456789 wrote:
Chris wrote:

Chrome books are cheap

Some Chromebooks sell for $1K.

and you lose support relatively quickly.

Most Chromebooks are supported for 6 years from product start.
Unfortunately if you buy late in the cycle to get a good price you
get less. I got 4 years. MS has the advantage in this department...

Ah, I thought it was less than that. My info must be a bit out of date.
Thanks for the correction.

Chris wrote:
123456789 wrote:

Most Chromebooks are supported for 6 years from product
start. Unfortunately if you buy late in the cycle to
get a good price you get less. I got 4 years. MS has
the advantage in this department...

Ah, I thought it was less than that. My info must be a
bit out of date.

From the horse's mouth:

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/.../6220366?hl=en

According to the list at that link my Samsung Chromebook Pro
(list US$650) expires in November of 2022. Perhaps I can
then install Linux and extend its life a bit...

On 19/10/2019 13.11, Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:
Bud Frede wrote:

You can buy Amazon ebooks directly on the Kindle no
transferring needed.

I prefer doing it this way so the Kindle doesn't have
to have wifi enabled and thus phone home to Amazon.

Then you would lose the ability to synchronize your
ebooks across all your devices. Paranoia hath its
costs...


All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...


My Kindle has much better battery life than my phone, it has a much
larger screen, and you can actually see the screen when outdoors. (I
love reading when in my hammock in the backyard.)

I read some technical books and documents on my desktop computer,
usually while I'm learning to do something new or improving my current
skills. They're typically pdfs, and those don't really work well on
ebook readers (or on mobile devices in general).

PDFs do not resize well. They are designed for a certain screen size or
bigger, and not for text reflow. Why the PDF format is so much used for
document distribution instead of epub I do not understand.


I also read physical paper books. I have a lot of them, and sometimes I
just like the feel of a book and turning the pages.

Me too, but I simply can not keep more.


The majority of my reading is done on my Kindle. I prefer to do it this
way. It gives me a nice experience, and I don't have to bother with any
syncing to other devices.

I do a lot of work for the health care industry and have to be available
24/7, so when I'm out I'm carrying my laptop, hot spot, cables, etc. so
it's no big deal to carry my Kindle too.

I understand that your needs are different, and you've found what works
for you. I've arrived at something that works for me. It's not better or
worse, it's just different.


Again, none of this changes my opinion on DRM.

Passing up a good read because of DRM may be shooting
yourself in the foot. I doubt the author would miss one
sale. On the other hand I see lots of ebooks advertised as
DRM-free these days so maybe others like yourself are making
a difference. Fortunately for don't-cares like me it makes
little difference either way. So carry on...

If I really must read something and it's not available without DRM, I
can get the physical book from the library. I usually don't bother
though. There are so many books, new and old, that I can always find
something to read.

If I wish to read something, I don't care if it has DRM or not. I just
have to work a bit more, but I get it (paying).


Like most "anti-piracy" measures, DRM doesn't do much to stop piracy. It
may stop some casual piracy, but it doesn't stop those making money from
it.

Right.


What DRM really does is inconvenience or harm people who pay for the
content legitimately. They may not be able to make backup copies, the
content may be tied to one specific device, if the vendor goes out of
business the content may cease to be accessible, etc.

Yes, but you can do a backup; in some countries it is legal.


I would prefer that the people who write the books I read are
compensated. (I do think that they often get shafted by the publishing
industry.) I'm not a proponent of piracy.

However, I've seen so many attempts at copy-protection and anti-piracy
measures over the years that just don't work, and inconvenience those
who don't pirate or use pirated works. (Like it's possible to get
pirated video discs without all of those annoying announcements and
warnings. They're stripped out at the same time the DRM is. So people
who use those have a _better_ viewing experience than those who bought
the disc legitimately.)






--
Cheers, Carlos.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 07:11:46 -0400, Bud Frede
wrote:

123456789 writes:

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:
Bud Frede wrote:

You can buy Amazon ebooks directly on the Kindle no
transferring needed.

I prefer doing it this way so the Kindle doesn't have
to have wifi enabled and thus phone home to Amazon.

Then you would lose the ability to synchronize your
ebooks across all your devices. Paranoia hath its
costs...


All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...


My Kindle has much better battery life than my phone,


Yes, that *is* an advantage of a Kindle. But in most places where I
read Kindle books on my phone, I can plug it into a power outlet, so
that advantage of a Kindle mostly goes away.


it has a much larger screen,


Yes, but to me, that's not an advantage. My phone's screen is fine for
me. And I like holding my phone in just one hand and using that hand's
thumb to turn the pages; I couldn't do that with a Kindle.


and you can actually see the screen when outdoors. (I
love reading when in my hammock in the backyard.)


Also not an advantage to me. I almost never read Kindle books
outdoors. I mostly read them on airplanes and in hotel rooms. And
occasionally in bed, before going to sleep.


The majority of my reading is done on my Kindle. I prefer to do it this
way. It gives me a nice experience, and I don't have to bother with any
syncing to other devices.


I read Kindle books seldom--mostly only when I travel. But to me, the
biggest advantage of Kindle books is that I can press a word and have
it look the word up in a dictionary or Wikipedia. That's much easier
and faster than digging out the dictionary.

A disadvantage of Kindle books to me is that most of the books I read
I get from the local library. I get both paper books and Kindle books
there, but the choice of paper books is much larger than the choice of
Kindle books. On the other hand, an advantage of Kindle books is that
it's much easier and faster to get them from the library than paper
books.



I understand that your needs are different, and you've found what works
for you. I've arrived at something that works for me. It's not better or
worse, it's just different.



A strong ditto! We're all different and have different likes and
dislikes.

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:

device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly
in my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since
all my devices are synced I can read on any of them
with no interruption. Try it, you'll like it...

My Kindle has much better battery life than my phone, it
has a much larger screen, and you can actually see the
screen when outdoors. (I love reading when in my hammock
in the backyard.)

It was just a SUGGESTION...

I understand that your needs are different, and you've
found what works for you. I've arrived at something that
works for me. It's not better or worse, it's just
different.

Apparently I put my SUGGESTIONS across too forcefully.
You're the second one here to imply I think my way should be
everybody's way. I don't.

Like most "anti-piracy" measures, DRM doesn't do much to
stop piracy.

I disagree. But neither of us can prove the point.

What DRM really does is inconvenience or harm people who
pay for the content legitimately.

I doubt that the vast majority of ebook readers are in any
way ever inconvenienced by DRM.

They may not be able to make backup copies, the content
may be tied to one specific device,

Also true of the library books you read to avoid DRM.

if the vendor goes out of business the content may cease
to be accessible, etc.

Happened to me. Details in an earlier post.

(I do think that they often get shafted by the
publishing industry.)

Authors don't have to get shafted by the publishing
industry. I read many self published authors. Not only are
the prices better but many are very very good. YMMV of course.

(Like it's possible to get pirated video discs without
all of those annoying announcements and warnings. They're
stripped out at the same time the DRM is. So people who
use those have a _better_ viewing experience than those
who bought the disc legitimately.)

You seem to know a lot of details of what those pirated
disks contain... 8-O