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  #16  
Old January 24th 18, 06:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 23-1-2018 19:50, VanguardLH wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Paul wrote:

You can also download updates from catalog.update.microsoft.com.


Took a look into that. There are so many drivers that I don't know which
ones to choose.


Use the search box at the upper right corner to hunt for the updates by
number that you want to download.


I did. Downloaded a lot of MSU's.
Will try tomorrow.

Fokke
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Old January 24th 18, 06:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 23-1-2018 22:34, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 14:00, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Or should I format the SSD and install W10 from scratch again, but
this time as a home user? I purchased an OEM license, would I be
allright with my activation again?

Thanks,
Fokke

If your Windows Update is working, do you really need to test that ?


Well, it's still not working. Downloaded a W10 update repair tool from
MS and it fixed several issues.
But it still won't update ...


Is grabbing a .msu file from catalog.update.microsoft.com working


I downloaded a lot of msu files and will try tomorrow.

?

I would jam in the files until all of them were accepted.

You can use Sysinternals.com Process Monitor, to log all
the WriteFile calls, and see where the update is writing.
Perhaps it uses CBS logfile ? I've even used Process Monitor
to log a Macrium Reflect backup (twenty minutes worth
of computing activity), so you can create huge traces
with it. My trace in that case was 9GB in size, on an
x64 system.

Paul


  #18  
Old January 24th 18, 06:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 23-1-2018 21:02, Ben Myers wrote:
On 1/23/2018 5:50 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

Recently built a new pc and installed W10 Pro x64. Always worked with
W7; W10 is new to me.
Installation worked will, all necessary programs are installed. But I
can't update Windows.
It says: 2017-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for
x64-based Systems (KB4054517). Awaiting restart.
After restarting it says: We could'n finish installing updates.
Then it shows an overview:
KB4054517 (9) failed to install
KB4056887 Requires restart
KB4058043 Requires restart
KB4056892 failed to install

So - what's wrong here?
Whilst installing W10 I was asked to choose as to whether using it as
a home pc or a company pc. I choosed company pc, as it works in our
LAN as a file-, print- and webserver. Sort of NAS. Perhaps some
settings now prevent a normal update?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Fokke Nauta


Try the Windows Update Troubleshooter

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10164

Ben


I tried and it fixes several issues. But still no installation of
updates. It downloads one but it fails to install.

Fokke
  #19  
Old January 24th 18, 06:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 23-1-2018 23:22, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/23/2018 2:33 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/23/2018 3:02 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
On 1/23/2018 5:50 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

Recently built a new pc and installed W10 Pro x64. Always worked
with W7; W10 is new to me.
Installation worked will, all necessary programs are installed. But
I can't update Windows.
It says: 2017-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for
x64-based Systems (KB4054517). Awaiting restart.
After restarting it says: We could'n finish installing updates.
Then it shows an overview:
KB4054517 (9) failed to install
KB4056887 Requires restart
KB4058043 Requires restart
KB4056892 failed to install

So - what's wrong here?
Whilst installing W10 I was asked to choose as to whether using it
as a home pc or a company pc. I choosed company pc, as it works in
our LAN as a file-, print- and webserver. Sort of NAS. Perhaps some
settings now prevent a normal update?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Fokke Nauta

Try the Windows Update Troubleshooter

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10164

Ben
Don't give up it took me some months to finally get my tablet to
upgrade to 1709. I can't tell you what I did precisely, but it may
have been that not all of the previous version updates had been
applied.



Might this help? Paul would Know.

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

Rene


Isn't this a fresh install though ?


Yes, it is.


What are the odds a fresh install has a damaged WinSXS ?


I wouldn't know.


I'd like to get some tiny hint from the OP, that'll
head us in the right direction.

Finding the right log file would be a start.
Is that the CBS log ? Or some other log ?

Paul


Where can I find the CBS log?

Fokke

  #20  
Old January 24th 18, 06:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 23-1-2018 23:43, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/23/2018 4:22 PM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/23/2018 2:33 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/23/2018 3:02 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
On 1/23/2018 5:50 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

Recently built a new pc and installed W10 Pro x64. Always worked
with W7; W10 is new to me.
Installation worked will, all necessary programs are installed.
But I can't update Windows.
It says: 2017-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709
for x64-based Systems (KB4054517). Awaiting restart.
After restarting it says: We could'n finish installing updates.
Then it shows an overview:
KB4054517 (9) failed to install
KB4056887 Requires restart
KB4058043 Requires restart
KB4056892 failed to install

So - what's wrong here?
Whilst installing W10 I was asked to choose as to whether using it
as a home pc or a company pc. I choosed company pc, as it works in
our LAN as a file-, print- and webserver. Sort of NAS. Perhaps
some settings now prevent a normal update?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Fokke Nauta

Try the Windows Update Troubleshooter

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10164

Ben
Don't give up it took me some months to finally get my tablet to
upgrade to 1709. I can't tell you what I did precisely, but it may
have been that not all of the previous version updates had been
applied.



Might this help? Paul would Know.

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

Rene


Isn't this a fresh install though ?

What are the odds a fresh install has a damaged WinSXS ?

I'd like to get some tiny hint from the OP, that'll
head us in the right direction.

Finding the right log file would be a start.
Is that the CBS log ? Or some other log ?

Paul


It sounds like a clean install but he mentions win 7 in the same
sentence! so I'm not sure.


It was a clean install of W10 Pro x64.
I have only experience with W7.

I have only used this command on an upgraded system so not sure if it
would help a new install, May be worth a shot anyway in case all the
trying to upgrade may have done some damage.

Rene


  #21  
Old January 24th 18, 06:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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Default Can't update W10

On 01/24/2018 12:28 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 22:34, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 14:00, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Or should I format the SSD and install W10 from scratch again, but
this time as a home user? I purchased an OEM license, would I be
allright with my activation again?

Thanks,
Fokke

If your Windows Update is working, do you really need to test that ?

Well, it's still not working. Downloaded a W10 update repair tool from
MS and it fixed several issues.
But it still won't update ...


Is grabbing a .msu file from catalog.update.microsoft.com working


I downloaded a lot of msu files and will try tomorrow.

?

I would jam in the files until all of them were accepted.

You can use Sysinternals.com Process Monitor, to log all
the WriteFile calls, and see where the update is writing.
Perhaps it uses CBS logfile ? I've even used Process Monitor
to log a Macrium Reflect backup (twenty minutes worth
of computing activity), so you can create huge traces
with it. My trace in that case was 9GB in size, on an
x64 system.

Â*Â* Paul



Can't remember, Did he dump the contents of the software distribution
Folder?

Rene

  #22  
Old January 24th 18, 08:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Can't update W10

Fokke Nauta wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

Paul wrote:

You can also download updates from catalog.update.microsoft.com.

Took a look into that. There are so many drivers that I don't know which
ones to choose.


Use the search box at the upper right corner to hunt for the updates by
number that you want to download.


I did. Downloaded a lot of MSU's. Will try tomorrow.


There should be one in the list that best matches on your OS version,
edition, and bitwidth. You don't want to install the others.
  #23  
Old January 25th 18, 05:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 24-1-2018 19:48, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/24/2018 12:28 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 22:34, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 14:00, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Or should I format the SSD and install W10 from scratch again, but
this time as a home user? I purchased an OEM license, would I be
allright with my activation again?

Thanks,
Fokke

If your Windows Update is working, do you really need to test that ?

Well, it's still not working. Downloaded a W10 update repair tool from
MS and it fixed several issues.
But it still won't update ...

Is grabbing a .msu file from catalog.update.microsoft.com working


I downloaded a lot of msu files and will try tomorrow.

?

I would jam in the files until all of them were accepted.

You can use Sysinternals.com Process Monitor, to log all
the WriteFile calls, and see where the update is writing.
Perhaps it uses CBS logfile ? I've even used Process Monitor
to log a Macrium Reflect backup (twenty minutes worth
of computing activity), so you can create huge traces
with it. My trace in that case was 9GB in size, on an
x64 system.

Paul



Can't remember, Did he dump the contents of the software distribution
Folder?

Rene


Yes, I did. I installed the msu files whilst removing the network cable
and that worked.

Fokke

  #24  
Old January 25th 18, 05:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 24-1-2018 21:16, VanguardLH wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

Paul wrote:

You can also download updates from catalog.update.microsoft.com.

Took a look into that. There are so many drivers that I don't know which
ones to choose.

Use the search box at the upper right corner to hunt for the updates by
number that you want to download.


I did. Downloaded a lot of MSU's. Will try tomorrow.


There should be one in the list that best matches on your OS version,
edition, and bitwidth. You don't want to install the others.


Yes, I found the updates, downloaded the msu files, removed the network
cable and installed them. That worked!

Thanks to all of you.

Fokke
  #25  
Old January 26th 18, 03:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Can't update W10

Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24-1-2018 19:48, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/24/2018 12:28 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 22:34, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 14:00, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Or should I format the SSD and install W10 from scratch again, but
this time as a home user? I purchased an OEM license, would I be
allright with my activation again?

Thanks,
Fokke

If your Windows Update is working, do you really need to test that ?

Well, it's still not working. Downloaded a W10 update repair tool from
MS and it fixed several issues.
But it still won't update ...

Is grabbing a .msu file from catalog.update.microsoft.com working

I downloaded a lot of msu files and will try tomorrow.

?

I would jam in the files until all of them were accepted.

You can use Sysinternals.com Process Monitor, to log all
the WriteFile calls, and see where the update is writing.
Perhaps it uses CBS logfile ? I've even used Process Monitor
to log a Macrium Reflect backup (twenty minutes worth
of computing activity), so you can create huge traces
with it. My trace in that case was 9GB in size, on an
x64 system.

Paul


Can't remember, Did he dump the contents of the software distribution
Folder?

Rene


Yes, I did. I installed the msu files whilst removing the network cable
and that worked.

Fokke


It usually does.

I've only had one case with Windows 10, where Windows Update went nuts,
where it was absolutely essential to clean SoftwareDistribution
out. In my case, it wouldn't stop looping.

I do it now more out of habit than anything else :-)

Installing failed updates with an .msu, and taking
precautions so wuauserv "can't be busy" by unplugging
the network cable and rebooting before the install - that's
normally all that a failure needs to correct it.

Paul
  #26  
Old January 26th 18, 09:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default Can't update W10

On 26-1-2018 04:40, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24-1-2018 19:48, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 01/24/2018 12:28 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 22:34, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 23-1-2018 14:00, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:

Or should I format the SSD and install W10 from scratch again, but
this time as a home user? I purchased an OEM license, would I be
allright with my activation again?

Thanks,
Fokke

If your Windows Update is working, do you really need to test that ?

Well, it's still not working. Downloaded a W10 update repair tool
from
MS and it fixed several issues.
But it still won't update ...

Is grabbing a .msu file from catalog.update.microsoft.com working

I downloaded a lot of msu files and will try tomorrow.

?

I would jam in the files until all of them were accepted.

You can use Sysinternals.com Process Monitor, to log all
the WriteFile calls, and see where the update is writing.
Perhaps it uses CBS logfile ? I've even used Process Monitor
to log a Macrium Reflect backup (twenty minutes worth
of computing activity), so you can create huge traces
with it. My trace in that case was 9GB in size, on an
x64 system.

Paul


Can't remember, Did he dump the contents of the software distribution
Folder?

Rene


Yes, I did. I installed the msu files whilst removing the network
cable and that worked.

Fokke


It usually does.

I've only had one case with Windows 10, where Windows Update went nuts,
where it was absolutely essential to clean SoftwareDistribution
out. In my case, it wouldn't stop looping.

I do it now more out of habit than anything else :-)

Installing failed updates with an .msu, and taking
precautions so wuauserv "can't be busy" by unplugging
the network cable and rebooting before the install - that's
normally all that a failure needs to correct it.

Paul


Well, that's something new I learned. But it worked out well.

Thanks, Paul!

Fokke
 




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