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Old March 17th 18, 10:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

The "Date Modified" and "Type" columns in the listing of Programs and
Features is (suddenly!) empty - no info at all. It looks as if the list of
programs is correct, but those two columns are all blank... ?
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Old March 17th 18, 10:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jonathan N. Little[_2_]
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

Jason wrote:
The "Date Modified" and "Type" columns in the listing of Programs and
Features is (suddenly!) empty - no info at all. It looks as if the list of
programs is correct, but those two columns are all blank... ?



Because the desktop "Programs and Features" is one of those special
shell folders where default columns are Name, Publisher, Installed On,
Size, and Version. Not supposed to have "Date Modified" and "Type"
columns. Have you been messing in the registry?

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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Old March 18th 18, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article , says...
Have you been messing in the registry?


Nope. "Publisher", "Installed On", "Size", and "Version" show up in this
list on my other Win 10 machine. All I've done with the machine is to
try (again) to update Win 10 to the latest version. The update failed,
as usual, and now I see what I reported. Could the failed update somehow
have caused this?


appwiz.cpl corrupted? Maybe run sfc?


# These three commands verify WINSXS contents

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

/CheckHealth - This switch option only checks to see if a component
corruption marker is already present in the registry.
It is just a quick way to see if corruption currently
exists, and to inform you if there is corruption. It
does not fix anything or create a log.
This should be finished almost instantaneous.

/ScanHealth - This switch option does not fix any corruption.
It only checks for component store corruption and records
that corruption to the log file.

This is useful for only logging what, if any, corruption
exists. This should take around 5-10 minutes to finish.

/RestoreHealth - This switch option checks for component store corruption,
records the corruption to the log file, and FIXES the
image corruption using Windows Update. This should take
around 10-15 minutes up to a few hours to finish depending
on the level of corruption.

# Once WINSXS is verified, this command
# checks the system files hard-linked in from WINSXS. A subset
# of WINSXS is hard-linked (complete with different, shorter
# file names), into System32.

sfc /scannow

# If a rootkit is present, it will laugh at these
# attempts to remove it. Rootkits are not as prevalent as
# they once were, but a small percentage of infections still
# use rootkits. They haven't disappeared completely.

*******

Versions of the above commands also exist, for usage from an
emergency boot CD. Which is called "doing an offline repair".

*******

This is not sufficient to guarantee that malware is not present.
The procedures so far, haven't touched the Registry, checked for
stuff in a Startup folder, checked Task Scheduler. There are likely
to be lots of ways for stuff to hide, that doesn't want to be found.
Naive repair techniques are best suited, to correcting hardware-induced
errors (a CRC error in a DLL perhaps).

*******

In the WinXP era, all we had was SFC, and it would moan
and whine about needing an installer CD with reference files
to use.

The Win10 versions have demonstrated their ability to do stuff
via the Internet, but I think I've still seen cases of
moaning and whining. So they're not completely immune to that :-)

Paul
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Old March 18th 18, 03:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

Jason wrote:

lws4art SAID ...

Have you been messing in the registry?


Nope. "Publisher", "Installed On", "Size", and "Version" show up in this
list on my other Win 10 machine. All I've done with the machine is to
try (again) to update Win 10 to the latest version. The update failed,
as usual, and now I see what I reported. Could the failed update somehow
have caused this?


As I recall, the only columns (the standard ones) in that wizard are
Name, Publisher, Installed On, Size, and Version (like Jonathan Little
mentioned). You can right-click on the column header row, select More
(to add more columns) but that doesn't mean the wizard will support
those additional columns.

By the way, back in Windows 7 (I'm at home now, not at work where there
are Windows 10 hosts on which to check), although I can add more columns
to show in that wizard, none of that are labelled "Date Modified" or
"Type". Are you sure you are looking at the columns in the Programs &
Features wizard or in File/Windows Explorer?

I have read where users reported (for Windows 8 and 10) that the
Installed On and Version columns got changed to Date Modified and Type
(and they are blank). In that case, right-click on the column header
row, select More, and deselect Date Modified and Type columns (the
wizard doesn't know what to do with those data attributes). Then select
the Installed On and Version columns. I don't know if you have to log
off and back on or reboot Windows to make this change stick.

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body of your post.

This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
hxxp:// www. avg. c0m


Configure your choice of anti-virus software to *not* spamify your
posts. In Avast (and maybe in AVG), the mail scan module appends this
spam (but with an invalid signature line) by default. Turn it off. Or
uninstall the mail shield module since it is superfluous. It adds no
further protection than does the on-access (real-time) scanner.

Since your starting post isn't spamified with AVG's spammy pseudo sig,
I'm guessing your 1st and 2nd posts were from different hosts.
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Old March 18th 18, 09:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:31:39 -0400 "Paul" wrote in
article
# These three commands verify WINSXS contents


No errors were found. sfc result is also clean.

I do the usual, pedestrian things to check for malware - none found. I'm
beginning to think of Windows 10 as malware...

For fun, I tried a "clean install" from a burned DVD. It reached a reboot
and up came the logo and the twirling dots. After a minute, the dots froze
up and there was no discernible activity. I let it sit for an hour. Nada.
On a second try, I formatted the SSD that is to be C:. This time, install
rebooted and complained that a driver was missing. Understandable, but,
this being Microsoft, there was NO indication as to just which driver was
causing the problem. Per the millions of suggestions online, I have
unhooked everything USB, deleted/unhooked printers & scanners, etc. There
are still a LOT of drivers in the picture, but since video card drivers
are often mentioned as a source of trouble, I've created a CD with the
latest Nvidia driver and will feed it to Setup at the beginning next time
when it asks for drivers.
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Old March 18th 18, 09:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Programs and Features listing missing info

Jason wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:31:39 -0400 "Paul" wrote in
article
# These three commands verify WINSXS contents


No errors were found. sfc result is also clean.

I do the usual, pedestrian things to check for malware - none found. I'm
beginning to think of Windows 10 as malware...

For fun, I tried a "clean install" from a burned DVD. It reached a reboot
and up came the logo and the twirling dots. After a minute, the dots froze
up and there was no discernible activity. I let it sit for an hour. Nada.
On a second try, I formatted the SSD that is to be C:. This time, install
rebooted and complained that a driver was missing. Understandable, but,
this being Microsoft, there was NO indication as to just which driver was
causing the problem. Per the millions of suggestions online, I have
unhooked everything USB, deleted/unhooked printers & scanners, etc. There
are still a LOT of drivers in the picture, but since video card drivers
are often mentioned as a source of trouble, I've created a CD with the
latest Nvidia driver and will feed it to Setup at the beginning next time
when it asks for drivers.


I had something weird happen here, about 20 minutes ago.

Win10 Insider is preparing for an update.

When I wasn't looking, it went to sleep! And it was set
to "Never sleep".

The Reliability monitor claimed, on the other hand, that
it had done an unclean shutdown. When it was sleeping.

This is the first time the Insider Edition has done something
goofy like that. I can't imagine what the root cause was.

Some of the Windows 10 install methods, download drivers from
Microsoft in advance of starting the install. The "Windows Upgrade"
icon a 14393 user might see sitting on the desktop, might
queue up drivers as it is downloading the DVD-sized image.
The Windows Update based upgrade install, probably does the
same thing.

The DVD install ("clean install") doesn't queue up anything
as far as I know.

The system can use the "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" driver
for most supported (or unsupported) video cards. There are in-box
USB drivers of all sorts. There is an IDE driver, and AHCI driver,
and so on. Generally, most of the basics needed to "tip the OS
upright" are in the box.

Now the question would be, what in-box driver isn't enough
for your system. To keep it upright, we don't even need a NIC
driver. Just the video card and disk driver should be enough
to make the desktop visible. Without any balls freezing.

*******

If you boot (or install) any other kind of OS, what happens ?

I can tell you, on my eighteen year old P2B-S system, I got
a surprise one day. I'd always had as a hypothesis, that Win98SE
had something to do with all my problems. I had some video
sensitivity problems, but only if more than 768MB of RAM
was installed.

Well, one day, on a lark, I booted a Linux distro of the time.
And guess what, move the mouse a few inches on the screen and...
crash! So a second OS showed that hardware was the issue.

For that system, I've since narrowed it down. It's a four
slot memory system (all sitting on a *single* bus). It
is stable with 256MB, 256MB, 128MB, 64MB DIMMs. That
means, from an impedance standpoint, that's a "full load"
on the pad drivers. Yet, if I switch to 256,256,256
it's crash-ola. It's the *total* RAM that matters to that
system. It's not the Photoshop bug, where Vtt bulk capacitance
needs to be increased. There's something Intel didn't tell
us, about the max allowed RAM...

I don't suspect anything of the kind from your system. It's
hard to imagine a weak link. If you like puzzles though,
and you have 4x2GB installed in the system, well, try a
Windows install with just one 2GB stick. It's far from
optimal from a bandwidth perspective, but you're trying
a "variation of parameters" test. Just in case...

Paul
 




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