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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
Latest Everything.exe installed.
It is so much faster and very useful EXCEPT ! when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
On 01/11/2018 12:29 PM, OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed. It is so much faster and very useful Â*Â* EXCEPT ! Â*Â* when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus I just checked mine, Version 1.4.1.877 and it is all normal fully open or minimized it is using 2 to 3 percent, All OK. Rene |
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OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed. It is so much faster and very useful EXCEPT ! when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus === AVAST Preferences, turn off message... If it was me, I would run Process Monitor when Everything is drawing down 80% CPU, and see what part of the file system it's banging on. Apparently Everything has "exclusions" to avoid this sort of looping behavior. Process Monitor https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon Version 3.4 Runs on: Client: Windows Vista and higher. Server: Windows Server 2008 and higher. If Everything is monitoring the folder where it keeps the indexes, it'll go into a loop. Some filter terms might be "Process Name" "Begins With" "Everything" === try this by itself first "Operation" "Is" "ReadFile" === this one might make for easier reading later but you might be able to see the egregious behavior without even doing any fancy analysis. The tick box in the File menu starts and stops the trace, and it can use a bit of CPU while tracing. Stop the trace, then go look at what you got. ******* From my Sent folder, the following links might work for WinXP. Version 3.1 https://web.archive.org/web/20150117...rnals/bb896645 I had some trouble with the download link. I hope this works. https://web.archive.org/web/20150208...essMonitor.zip Paul |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:29:23 -0800, OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed. It is so much faster and very useful EXCEPT ! when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? Process Lasso is free for XP users, and you can configure it to decide who gets what in the way of CPU usage. You were unclear as to whether you are using XP or 7 (you cross-posted). Have you tried "Index Your Files" ? http://www.indexyourfiles.com/ There's a portable version available. Or for a really fast search https://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftsearch/ It doesn't do file content, though, only filenames. Also portable. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed. It is so much faster and very useful EXCEPT ! when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? Sounds like when you installed the update that you lost all your old indexes so Everything had to rebuild them all again. Just like the Indexing Service in Windows (which can be configured to index just by filenames or by filenames and content although content will slow it down), Everything is just another indexing service. However, unlike the one in Windows, Everything doesn't hide "special" folders. How long is history configured? Forever (indefinitely) or just 1 day? The more attributes you add to an index (folder size, file size, date modified, date accessed, index attributes, etc) the more has to get indexed, the larger the index database, the longer it all takes. Are you including removable drives in the Everything index? If so, do you often have those removable drives attached to your computer? Which, if any, removable drives do you really need to have their files indexed? I have a backup drive (to where copies of backups and downloads are stored) included in Everything's indexing but not any of my other USB flash drives since their content fluctuates based on how I use them at the time. Are you using FTP or HTTP to have Everything scan those remote locations, too? Those are over the network and will not match the speeds of your internal HDDs or SDDs. The more you have Everything indexing, well, the longer it takes. Have you gone into Everything's options and have it perform a rebuild of its indexing database? How long does that take? If very short but Everything is still chewing CPU usage afterward, it is trying to index something that is very slow to access. During a rebuild, the status bar in the main GUI will show what device it is currently scanning followed by an aggregate sort operation. Since this is an application issue and not an OS issue, you might want to ask in a community more focused on that application. Find other Everything users in the forums over at: https://www.voidtools.com/forum/ I have no idea how active are their forums nor if there are any posts discussing high CPU usage with Everything. Their forum does not permit searches unless logged in. While I use Everything, I'm not creating an account to do a search on your problem. Before posting over there (provided a search turns up nothing relevant to you), you might want to run Everything in debug mode to report any findings there; see https://www.voidtools.com/forum/view...php?f=6&t=1713. I did a Google search "search everything high CPU usage" and managed to find some of their forums posts that way. For example: https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=508 That mentions back in 2009 there was a bug causing high CPU usage in what was then a new release. It could happen again. I am using Everything 1.4.1.877 x64 on Windows 7 Home x64. You cross-posted to multiple OS newsgroups but no mention if the CPU usage problem is exhibited on all those platforms. Just pick one on which to focus when posting to their newsgroup. You also didn't mention bitwidth version of Search Everything that you are using. There are 32- and 64-bit versions of Search Everything. Since you cross-posted to the Windows XP newsgroup, presumably you are using there the 32-bit version of Search Everything but is the high CPU usage a problem on Windows XP? If the problem is only on Windows 7, mention its bitwidth and also the bitwidth of Search Everything you're using there. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. hxxps:// www. avast. c0m/ antivirus No one here cares. Anyone can claim their post is malware-free, even malware authors. Can't Lie on the Internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc Stop volunteering your posts as a spam affiliate for your choice of anti-virus software. Avast really doesn't need the advertising. Configure Avast to *not* spamify your posts (disable them appending their signature to your posts and e-mails, or just uninstall that superflous e-mail/newsgroups module). |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:08:32 -0500, Paul wrote:
If Everything is monitoring the folder where it keeps the indexes, it'll go into a loop. I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the filesystem like that is probably going to know how to exclude itself without any user intervention. Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of years now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its indexes. I've seen no evidence of an activity loop. -- Char Jackson |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
On 11 Jan 2018, Char Jackson wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the filesystem like that is probably going to know how to exclude itself without any user intervention. Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of years now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its indexes. I've seen no evidence of an activity loop. Nor have I. Setting up Everything has always been easy. I've had to exclude an occasional drive or partition, and once I somehow had it monitoring a drive twice, so I had double entries, but that was my own error. It mostly just works out of the box with no tweaking required. Right now it's using about 60 MB while idle. More than I expected to see, but the footprint isn't growing, and I detect no performance impact. |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
Nil wrote:
On 11 Jan 2018, Char Jackson wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the filesystem like that is probably going to know how to exclude itself without any user intervention. Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of years now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its indexes. I've seen no evidence of an activity loop. Nor have I. Setting up Everything has always been easy. I've had to exclude an occasional drive or partition, and once I somehow had it monitoring a drive twice, so I had double entries, but that was my own error. It mostly just works out of the box with no tweaking required. Right now it's using about 60 MB while idle. More than I expected to see, but the footprint isn't growing, and I detect no performance impact. The offer still stands though. Use Process Monitor to see what kind of things it is doing. It's got to be doing more than coin mining, and there's gotta be some hints :-) Paul |
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Everything Stealing Too Much CPU
Thanks all. On next boot i will look at things more critically.
I use the latest Everything on both XP and 7 and 10. no Vista or 8 here. This was not a new update or install when the problem arose. The laptop had been booten many times and run for hours each time so indexing is not the likely culprit. Anyway the new Everything seem to be lightning fast of all fronts. kudos to the developer. I use everything all the time. e.g. I download a file using FireFox or whatever and the downloader does not show it so I use Everything and sort by date and there is the just downloaded file. love it. I even include my flash (pen) drives and NAS drives. It may have been that Everything was trying hard to find some disconnected drives and spinning its wheels there. unfortunately i see no way to temporarily disconnect drives that are not available at boot time. new post coming. OGEE wrote: Latest Everything.exe installed. It is so much faster and very useful EXCEPT ! when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing other apps to turn into snails. If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage. Any way to moderate Everything ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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