Install disc does not boot on older PCs?

"Avatar" schreef in bericht ...
We are using the Windows 7 RC 32bit OS (downloaded earlier from MS) to
test
our PCs as a test of usability and other possibilities, including future
purchase.
The disc boots up (and installs) perfectly on all PCs here except and
'older' one that still runs Windows 2000 Pro.
That PC does have boot-from-CD/DVD-ROM enabled and functional - all other
bootable media thrown at it works. Except the Windows 7 disc.
Just by way of academic interest - does the disc's boot and install
routines
'know' somehow that the hardware may not be compatible? Or the boot files
are not compatible with 'outdated' hardware/BIOS?
It does not even give the usual "Press any key to boot from CD...."
prompt.
This is an oddity that we found interesting.
The disc itself was burnt 'properly' AFAWK. Tested to work perfectly on
PCs
elsewhere too.
Regards and TIA.
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Odd as it may seem sometimes certain drives are just not compatibl ewith some media. Possibly a firmware update
on the cd/dvd drive might help.

Another thing you could do is swap the cd/dvd drive with one from a pc it did work in and give that a go.

Good luck.

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS to check
the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard drive, if
no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB device - all
automatically in that order. However, in practise you have to tell it to
boot from the DVD drive.

Ron

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS to check
the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard drive, if
no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB device - all
automatically in that order. However, in practise you have to tell it to
boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS to check
the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard drive, if
no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB device - all
automatically in that order. However, in practise you have to tell it to
boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so that it was
trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since it wasn't connected to
a network, it didn't boot, until I changed it back to the correct settings.
THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS
to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB
device - all automatically in that order. However, in practise you
have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so that
it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since it
wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed it
back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS
to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB
device - all automatically in that order. However, in practise you
have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so that
it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since it
wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed it
back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software changed
the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS
to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB
device - all automatically in that order. However, in practise you
have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so that
it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since it
wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed it
back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the BIOS
to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external USB
device - all automatically in that order. However, in practise you
have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order to
DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it checks
the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so that
it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since it
wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed it
back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

Yes, you are full of bull****. Your attitude needs adjustment. If you had
the level of experience that I have, you wouldn't make **** assumptions the
way you do. There was a time when it was unheard of for software to be able
to destroy hardware. Times change.

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And we walked twenty miles to the schoolhouse
Barefoot, uphill both ways,
Through blizzards in summer and winter
Back in the good old days.
Back when Fortran was not even Two-tran
And the mainframe was only a toy
And we did our computing by torchlight
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the
BIOS to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external
USB device - all automatically in that order. However, in
practise you have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order
to DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it
checks the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so
that it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since
it wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed
it back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

Yes, you are full of bull****. Your attitude needs adjustment. If
you had the level of experience that I have, you wouldn't make ****
assumptions the way you do. There was a time when it was unheard of
for software to be able to destroy hardware. Times change.

I have 50 years experience working with all kinds of computers (only 25
years with PCs though) and I've never seen any software change my boot
settings in BIOS either. Installing Windows 7 on a few of them didn't change
any BIOS settings either. I /have/ made wrong choices in BIOS settings like
that myself, but no software has ever done it.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the
BIOS to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the hard
drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then external
USB device - all automatically in that order. However, in
practise you have to tell it to boot from the DVD drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order
to DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it
checks the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so
that it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course, since
it wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I changed
it back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

Yes, you are full of bull****. Your attitude needs adjustment. If
you had the level of experience that I have, you wouldn't make ****
assumptions the way you do. There was a time when it was unheard of
for software to be able to destroy hardware. Times change.

I have 50 years experience working with all kinds of computers (only 25
years with PCs though) and I've never seen any software change my boot
settings in BIOS either. Installing Windows 7 on a few of them didn't
change any BIOS settings either. I /have/ made wrong choices in BIOS
settings like that myself, but no software has ever done it.

You have little excuse for claiming bull**** so quickly, then. I have a
mere 35 years experience, myself. The BIOS thing was an entirely new
experience for me, and I didn't think that it could happen, either. While I
didn't expect it, nor had I ever heard of it...it was only annoying for a
few minutes, until I corrected the dhamned settings...me, I'd NEVER set it
to boot from network at all.

I like to keep an open mind.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the
BIOS to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the
hard drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then
external USB device - all automatically in that order.
However, in practise you have to tell it to boot from the DVD
drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order
to DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it
checks the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so
that it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course,
since it wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I
changed it back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly
behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

Yes, you are full of bull****. Your attitude needs adjustment. If
you had the level of experience that I have, you wouldn't make ****
assumptions the way you do. There was a time when it was unheard of
for software to be able to destroy hardware. Times change.

I have 50 years experience working with all kinds of computers (only
25 years with PCs though) and I've never seen any software change my
boot settings in BIOS either. Installing Windows 7 on a few of them
didn't change any BIOS settings either. I /have/ made wrong choices
in BIOS settings like that myself, but no software has ever done it.

You have little excuse for claiming bull**** so quickly, then.

Follow the thread. Try not to make accusations at the wrong poster.

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Lord Vetinari wrote:
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Lord Vetinari wrote:
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Lord Vetinari wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:02:20 -0000, "Ron O'Brien"
wrote:

At the risk of sounding out the obvious - did you change the
BIOS to check the DVD drive at boot-up?

My desktop, just two years old is supposed to boot from the
hard drive, if no o/s it should then look at the DVD then
external USB device - all automatically in that order.
However, in practise you have to tell it to boot from the DVD
drive.

You can make it a bit more automatic by changing the boot order
to DVD, HDD, USB, but then you might see a short delay while it
checks the DVD drive to see if a bootable media is inserted.

Oddly, after my last reinstall of Win7, my BIOS was changed, so
that it was trying to boot from network, first. Of course,
since it wasn't connected to a network, it didn't boot, until I
changed it back to the correct settings. THAT's unfriendly
behaviour.

So your hardware problem is Microsoft's Window 7's problem?

**** off, idiot. Your assumption is very deeply flawed. Software
changed the BIOS settings, not the hardware.

Sure it did.

aside: BS!

Yes, you are full of bull****. Your attitude needs adjustment. If
you had the level of experience that I have, you wouldn't make ****
assumptions the way you do. There was a time when it was unheard of
for software to be able to destroy hardware. Times change.

I have 50 years experience working with all kinds of computers (only
25 years with PCs though) and I've never seen any software change my
boot settings in BIOS either. Installing Windows 7 on a few of them
didn't change any BIOS settings either. I /have/ made wrong choices
in BIOS settings like that myself, but no software has ever done it.

You have little excuse for claiming bull**** so quickly, then.

Follow the thread. Try not to make accusations at the wrong poster.

Oh, why not? Don't you enjoy the confusion? Heh.

No one is perfect, and try wording things in a less insulting manner, won't
you? I'll try too.