Should I buy win 10 laptop or win 10 tablet computer?

On 01/19/2016 10:15 PM, Peter Jason wrote:

[snip]

I've always had a radio to send me off to sleep. Talk-back radio here
goes all night long and it sure beats a nanny bed-time story.


I like it quiet and DARK at night. I never listened to music while going
to sleep. It would either be too loud or too quiet (and too much work to
try to understand).

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"SENILE.COM found. Out Of Memory."

On 01/20/2016 08:44 AM, Slimer wrote:

[snip]

The reason I recommend the Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 in particular is because it
provides the same kind of functionality as a Surface Book but at a much
lower price. The most important thing on that laptop, for me in
particular, is how well-built the hinges are. The first and second Yoga
Pro could go from laptop to tablet quite easily, but after a while the
hinges would break since plastic wears out fairly rapidly in that kind
of a context. the Yoga Pro uses quality metal and one look at the unit
makes it very apparent that it is solid in addition to being incredibly
mobile. If I didn't play games, it would be my dream machine but I'm
content in watching my wife use it and I have no reason to suspect that
it will fall apart like her three previous laptops did. In addition to
that, the screen is magnificent and provides what I believe is a
3200x1800 resolution all the while providing the same amount of real
estate as a 1080p screen. For an older individual with possibly poor
eye-sight, the sharpness of the screen bundled with the fact that icons
and text are still fairly large should be perfect. It is also extremely
light which makes it a perfect candidate for tablet use, especially for
reading.



Does it have a SSD? I have a Yoga 2 with 128GB SSD and it boots really fast.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"SENILE.COM found. Out Of Memory."

On 2016-01-20 12:38 PM, Bod wrote:
On 20/01/2016 00:16, Bill wrote:
In message , Slimer
writes
I'd suggest a laptop which turns into a tablet for convenience.
Something like my wife's Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 would probably please you
immensely.

That's newer than anything that I have, but I absolutely love the older
Lenovo X200T or, especially, the later 201T, 220Tand so on.

Because they are full laptops as well as tablets, they are well
balanced, with the weight in the keyboard rather than the screen, and
they will work as tablets either normal or upright orientation.

The later ones work with keyboard, mouse, trackpoint, pen and capacitive
finger touch. The pen input is excellent for drawing or precise
pointing, unlike most finger tablets.

They also run full Windows and have proper-size HD's or SSD's.

If the Yoga's are anything like as good, they would indeed be ideal.

I would be very wary of ever buying again something that uses a Wimboot
based OS like many Windows 8.1 and 10 tablets. The OS's can be updated,
but only by losing the space that the compressed OS gives.


Tech Radar weren't very impressed withe the Yoga Pro 3, they also said
it was less powerful than the Pro 2:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...1268489/review

I never said it was powerful. However, its Core M processor provides
decent speed and decent battery life which is likely to be very
important for most people. You won't game on it and probably won't be
ripping Blu-Rays and music CDs either (since there is no optical drive)
but it will handle everything else beautifully. My wife would have
complained if it didn't seem powerful and she hasn't so far.


--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
"Everything seems to work fine, except that occasionally everything
freezes." - Another one of GNU/Linux's many victims
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apologist JEDIDIAH explaining why sound never worked/works right in Linux

On 2016-01-20 12:54 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 01/20/2016 08:44 AM, Slimer wrote:

[snip]

The reason I recommend the Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 in particular is because it
provides the same kind of functionality as a Surface Book but at a much
lower price. The most important thing on that laptop, for me in
particular, is how well-built the hinges are. The first and second Yoga
Pro could go from laptop to tablet quite easily, but after a while the
hinges would break since plastic wears out fairly rapidly in that kind
of a context. the Yoga Pro uses quality metal and one look at the unit
makes it very apparent that it is solid in addition to being incredibly
mobile. If I didn't play games, it would be my dream machine but I'm
content in watching my wife use it and I have no reason to suspect that
it will fall apart like her three previous laptops did. In addition to
that, the screen is magnificent and provides what I believe is a
3200x1800 resolution all the while providing the same amount of real
estate as a 1080p screen. For an older individual with possibly poor
eye-sight, the sharpness of the screen bundled with the fact that icons
and text are still fairly large should be perfect. It is also extremely
light which makes it a perfect candidate for tablet use, especially for
reading.



Does it have a SSD? I have a Yoga 2 with 128GB SSD and it boots really
fast.

A 256GB one, yes.


--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
"Everything seems to work fine, except that occasionally everything
freezes." - Another one of GNU/Linux's many victims
"Sound wasn't even a gauranteed thing on a PC in the 90s." - Linux
apologist JEDIDIAH explaining why sound never worked/works right in Linux

On 20/01/2016 18:09, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-01-20 12:38 PM, Bod wrote:
On 20/01/2016 00:16, Bill wrote:
In message , Slimer
writes
I'd suggest a laptop which turns into a tablet for convenience.
Something like my wife's Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 would probably please you
immensely.

That's newer than anything that I have, but I absolutely love the older
Lenovo X200T or, especially, the later 201T, 220Tand so on.

Because they are full laptops as well as tablets, they are well
balanced, with the weight in the keyboard rather than the screen, and
they will work as tablets either normal or upright orientation.

The later ones work with keyboard, mouse, trackpoint, pen and capacitive
finger touch. The pen input is excellent for drawing or precise
pointing, unlike most finger tablets.

They also run full Windows and have proper-size HD's or SSD's.

If the Yoga's are anything like as good, they would indeed be ideal.

I would be very wary of ever buying again something that uses a Wimboot
based OS like many Windows 8.1 and 10 tablets. The OS's can be updated,
but only by losing the space that the compressed OS gives.


Tech Radar weren't very impressed withe the Yoga Pro 3, they also said
it was less powerful than the Pro 2:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...1268489/review

I never said it was powerful. However, its Core M processor provides
decent speed and decent battery life which is likely to be very
important for most people. You won't game on it and probably won't be
ripping Blu-Rays and music CDs either (since there is no optical drive)
but it will handle everything else beautifully. My wife would have
complained if it didn't seem powerful and she hasn't so far.


Fair enough.

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In message , Slimer
writes
The reason I recommend the Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 in particular is because
it provides the same kind of functionality as a Surface Book but at a
much lower price. The most important thing on that laptop, for me in
particular, is how well-built the hinges are. The first and second Yoga
Pro could go from laptop to tablet quite easily, but after a while the
hinges would break since plastic wears out fairly rapidly in that kind
of a context.

I've looked at various Yoga models in the past and then gone back to my
old X-series.

I appreciate that the Yogas are thinner and lighter, but they seem to be
no faster than even the old Core2Duo of the X200 and, as far as I could
tell the precision of the pen operation was not there (although I may be
wrong).

I also loathe the Windows 8.1, and the Lenovo website says the W10
update doesn't support all W10's features. Unfortunately the link to the
W10 supported features doesn't work.

I am looking out for a Yoga 3 or higher to try, though, if one ever
appears at a bargain price
--
Bill

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:51:52 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 01/19/2016 10:15 PM, Peter Jason wrote:

[snip]

I've always had a radio to send me off to sleep. Talk-back radio here
goes all night long and it sure beats a nanny bed-time story.


I like it quiet and DARK at night. I never listened to music while going
to sleep. It would either be too loud or too quiet (and too much work to
try to understand).

Clearly you don't live on a main road with traffic half the night,
happy-hour drunks yelling & screaming, and pedestrians walking back &
forth.

In article
Bill wrote:

In message , Slimer
writes
The reason I recommend the Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 in particular is because
it provides the same kind of functionality as a Surface Book but at a
much lower price. The most important thing on that laptop, for me in
particular, is how well-built the hinges are. The first and second Yoga
Pro could go from laptop to tablet quite easily, but after a while the
hinges would break since plastic wears out fairly rapidly in that kind
of a context.

I've looked at various Yoga models in the past and then gone back to my
old X-series.

I appreciate that the Yogas are thinner and lighter, but they seem to be
no faster than even the old Core2Duo of the X200 and, as far as I could
tell the precision of the pen operation was not there (although I may be
wrong).

I also loathe the Windows 8.1, and the Lenovo website says the W10
update doesn't support all W10's features. Unfortunately the link to the
W10 supported features doesn't work.

I am looking out for a Yoga 3 or higher to try, though, if one ever
appears at a bargain price.

Yoga's on sale at Woot today only...

Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 11E 11.6" Touchscreen Convertible Ultrabook,
Intel N2940 Quad-Core, 128GB Solid State Drive, 4GB DDR3, 802.11ac,
Bluetooth, Win10Pro
$269.99

http://www.woot.com/offers/lenovo-th...ga-11-6-touch-
ultrabook-2