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"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"



 
 
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Old January 21st 16, 07:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lynn McGuire
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"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"
http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/

I have been wondering about this.

Lynn
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Old January 22nd 16, 02:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"

http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/

I have been wondering about this.

Lynn


That's just a weird way of putting one of the
realities of running a high tech company.

"You're only as good as your Next Big Thing"

The track record on tech companies isn't all that good.

If you don't manage to overlap a new technology (that
only you can make) with your current "cash cow" business, then
you're screwed.

Even Microsoft could suffer a similar fate, but at least
it's working on its Cloud (Azure) business. Even if
Microsoft had to become a smaller company, they might have
enough overlapped projects to survive.

It's pretty hard to guess what Intel has in the pipe.
Memristors ? Quantum computing ? You'd need to know
how many Intel staff work in "pure research" to have
some idea what the future holds for them.

Intel are pretty picky about what products
they will "embrace". So even if you see a neat
gadget that they've been selling to the market
as a prototype, they won't stick with it. So whatever
their Next Big Thing is, it'll be something that
only they can make, and no competitor has the
materials to chip away at their pricing.

For example, they're selling these, but I don't
expect this to last as a business as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_RealSense

Just like Google Glass didn't last. No news
recently on this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Glass

Paul
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Old January 22nd 16, 07:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_4_]
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Paul wrote:

Just like Google Glass didn't last. No news recently on this one.


Well, an updated "glass" device was spotted going through FCC approval
last month.

http://9to5google.com/2015/12/28/this-is-google-glass-enterprise-edition-in-the-flesh-gallery/

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Old January 22nd 16, 01:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/21/2016 9:18 PM, Paul wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"
http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/

I have been wondering about this.

Lynn


That's just a weird way of putting one of the
realities of running a high tech company.

"You're only as good as your Next Big Thing"

The track record on tech companies isn't all that good.

If you don't manage to overlap a new technology (that
only you can make) with your current "cash cow" business, then
you're screwed.

Even Microsoft could suffer a similar fate, but at least
it's working on its Cloud (Azure) business. Even if
Microsoft had to become a smaller company, they might have
enough overlapped projects to survive.

It's pretty hard to guess what Intel has in the pipe.
Memristors ? Quantum computing ? You'd need to know
how many Intel staff work in "pure research" to have
some idea what the future holds for them.

Intel are pretty picky about what products
they will "embrace". So even if you see a neat
gadget that they've been selling to the market
as a prototype, they won't stick with it. So whatever
their Next Big Thing is, it'll be something that
only they can make, and no competitor has the
materials to chip away at their pricing.

For example, they're selling these, but I don't
expect this to last as a business as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_RealSense

Just like Google Glass didn't last. No news
recently on this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Glass

Paul


As a Technology ages, a company must change its business model from one
dependent on new or improved technology, to making small improvements or
supplying a cheaper product

Technically Moore's law has stopped working. It ended when the speed of
the processors reached the speed and densities where electron tunneling
became a problem. That occurred when the CPU companies started to
provide multiple processor chips several years ago.

Intel will survive if it can change its business model to accommodate
the fact that it can not double the speed of it CPU every two years.
There will all ways be the need for CPU chips, as computers will not go
away.

We must realize there are limits that are imposed by the basic principal
of physics and chemistry. Computer chips have a density that can not be
passed, there are a limited number of voltages in the electron couples
that can be used for batteries. You can only improve a solar cell to
the point where the electrons that collect the energy in sum light are
packed so close, and the light will penetrate only through a limited
number of layers of electrons.

Sorry physic and chemistry place limits on our dreams.



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Old January 22nd 16, 01:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/22/2016 3:35 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"


Irrelevant to average users, but not the server market!

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Old January 22nd 16, 07:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lynn McGuire
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On 1/22/2016 7:15 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 1/22/2016 3:35 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"


Irrelevant to average users, but not the server market!


Yes, but the server market is a very small subset of the Intel cpu market.

Lynn
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Old January 22nd 16, 08:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Oh no!! What will we do?

"Lynn McGuire" wrote in message ...

"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"
http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/

I have been wondering about this.

Lynn

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Old January 22nd 16, 10:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/21/16 11:35, Lynn McGuire so wittily quipped:
"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"

http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/


I have been wondering about this.

Lynn


if Intel had not tied a good part of their success to Microsoft's next
OS, i.e. W10 [as they had with W8.x], they'd be doing a LOT better.

Intel needs to unhitch their wagon and start "diversifying" - and if
that means getting LINUX DESKTOP COMPUTERS out there, running with intel
processors and OUT-SELLING the W10 BOXEN [with marketing campaigns to
make that happen], and making SURE that Linux and other alternative
operating systems (BSD, for example), are WELL SUPPORTED, then Intel
will be LESS impacted by a **** operating system release like W8 or W10.

same with new computer sales, down 10% becase of W10

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01...ror_pc_market/


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Old January 22nd 16, 11:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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On 01/21/2016 02:35 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Prediction #9: Intel starts to become irrelevant"

http://www.cringely.com/2016/01/21/p...me-irrelevent/


I have been wondering about this.


Even some tablets are using Intel now.

The FreeNAS people recommend only Intel-based hardware.

Perce

 




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