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Old May 21st 18, 05:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-05-20 17:15, Ed Cryer wrote:
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In article , Ed Cryer
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P.S. "Disc" or "disk" in your country?

general convention:
* disc - optical media (cd, dvd, blu-ray discs), old school vinyl
*** records (disc jockey), type of brakes on a vehicle, toys and
*** games (frisbee disc golf)
* disk - magnetic media (hard disk, floppy disk)


It's come along the same historical path as "programme" and "program".
One was UK English spelling, the other American.
We've adopted the American version for computers in the UK.

Disc/disk started the same path but that one diverged into what you
call "general convention".

Ed



Actually "disk" is the older form.


I suppose you're referring to Greek δίσκος, from which Romans got their
"discus" (Latin not having a kappa).
And then, of course, the Romance languages evolved from that; although I
don't think a single one of them went back to a "k" (French "disque" and
Spanish "disco" reflect something of Latin's noun inflections.)

Ed

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Old May 22nd 18, 12:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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....w񧱤 wrote:

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message news
P.S. Where is MS' new imager for their shiny new Win10 1803?


MSFT afiak, has no plans to provide a 'new' imaging utility for Windows 10
...


Why did they even include the old W7's imaging utility if it doesn't work
then?
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Old May 22nd 18, 01:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Ant wrote:
...w񧱤 wrote:

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message news
P.S. Where is MS' new imager for their shiny new Win10 1803?


MSFT afiak, has no plans to provide a 'new' imaging utility for Windows 10
...


Why did they even include the old W7's imaging utility if it doesn't work
then?


In your testing, what part of it didn't work ?

You should have your installer DVD handy, in case
you need to boot up and do a restore over top of C: .

The storage format is VHDX, for images.

For the file-by-file backup option, they segment
the backup into 200MB ZIP files or so.

Using this stuff is an "acquired taste". There are some
users who swear "the utility has to be made by Microsoft
before I will trust it", and this mechanism ensures those
people can do backups. Whereas otherwise, they'd have to
break their oath to do so.

Paul
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Old May 22nd 18, 12:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

"Ed Cryer"* wrote in message news P.S. Where is MS' new imager for their shiny new Win10 1803?


MSFT afiak, has no plans to provide a 'new' imaging utility for
Windows 10
...


Why did they even include the old W7's imaging utility if it doesn't
work then?


In your testing, what part of it didn't work ?

You should have your installer DVD handy, in case
you need to boot up and do a restore over top of C: .

The storage format is VHDX, for images.

For the file-by-file backup option, they segment
the backup into 200MB ZIP files or so.

Using this stuff is an "acquired taste". There are some
users who swear "the utility has to be made by Microsoft
before I will trust it", and this mechanism ensures those
people can do backups. Whereas otherwise, they'd have to
break their oath to do so.

** Paul


Yes, it works ok. I've restored with such images several times.
Here's an Explorer view of the latest.
Notice the 120GB file;
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owfmhi5bxv...Image.jpg?dl=0

The drawback is the time it takes, when compared to third-party imaging
programs which are just as reliable in my experience.

Ed
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Old May 22nd 18, 07:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ[_2_]
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Ant wrote:
...w񧱤 wrote:

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message news
P.S. Where is MS' new imager for their shiny new Win10 1803?


MSFT afiak, has no plans to provide a 'new' imaging utility for Windows 10
...


Why did they even include the old W7's imaging utility if it doesn't work
then?

It works, though not as fast or feature option availability as 3rd party
utilities.
It(Backup and Restore) is also a 12 yr. old product(first introduced in
Vista in 2006)unlike the more favored 3rd party products(e.g.Macrium and
Acronis)which providers routinely update and patch for o/s compatibility or
improvement.


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