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  #1  
Old January 22nd 16, 01:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

Perce
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  #2  
Old January 22nd 16, 01:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_4_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?


You'll have to buy a new Win10 licence for the new machine ...
  #3  
Old January 22nd 16, 02:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 01/21/2016 07:59 PM, Andy Burns wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?


You'll have to buy a new Win10 licence for the new machine ...


But "Retail" packages of previous versions were transferable to new
hardware. Or is there no such thing as a "retail" Win10?

Perce

  #4  
Old January 22nd 16, 03:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
. . .winston[_2_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

Percival P. Cassidy wrote on 01/21/2016 7:36 PM:
I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

Perce


If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or 8).
- Technically, No.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience
  #5  
Old January 22nd 16, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_4_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

"Retail" packages of previous versions were transferable to new
hardware. Or is there no such thing as a "retail" Win10?


I think once you've taken the upgrade, the Win7 licence is history, and
the Win10 licence is tied to the hardware ...

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/x/x/6ee1dfe0-8adc-4cce-a46a-748963cf56d1
  #6  
Old January 22nd 16, 05:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 01/21/2016 09:24 PM, . . .winston wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?


If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.


No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?

Perce


  #7  
Old January 22nd 16, 07:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Posts: 151
Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?


If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.


No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?


To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.

Perce


  #8  
Old January 22nd 16, 09:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?


If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.


No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?


To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.

Perce


You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.
  #9  
Old January 22nd 16, 10:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Posts: 151
Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 01/22/2016 03:50 PM, mike wrote:
On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension
off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you
install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation
will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs
7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?


To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.



You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


In the meantime I found the following answer on answers.microsoft.com:

"If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail
version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer. =====
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version"

Perce

  #10  
Old January 22nd 16, 11:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:50:08 -0800, mike wrote:

On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?


To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.

Perce


You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


If backup/imaging software is in the business of enforcing MS licensing
policies, this would be the first that I've heard of it.

  #11  
Old January 23rd 16, 12:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
. . .winston[_2_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

Percival P. Cassidy wrote on 01/22/2016 4:51 PM:
On 01/22/2016 03:50 PM, mike wrote:
On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension
off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you
install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation
will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs
7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?

To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.



You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


In the meantime I found the following answer on answers.microsoft.com:

"If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail
version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer. =====
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version"

Perce


Most likely not from an official MSFT source.

Without a link, the information you've provided is suspicious. Nor is it
anything close to language used in the Win7 or Win10 EULA. And more
importantly don't assume, if you review a Win10 EULA that for a retail
or OEM version that it applies to the free upgrade offer.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience
  #12  
Old January 23rd 16, 02:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Percival P. Cassidy
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Posts: 151
Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 01/22/2016 06:21 PM, . . .winston wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension
off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would
there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware
and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you
install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation
will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with
the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's
genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs
7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded
from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro
license?

To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.



You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the
answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


In the meantime I found the following answer on answers.microsoft.com:

"If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail
version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer. =====
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version"



Most likely not from an official MSFT source.

Without a link, the information you've provided is suspicious. Nor is it
anything close to language used in the Win7 or Win10 EULA. And more
importantly don't assume, if you review a Win10 EULA that for a retail
or OEM version that it applies to the free upgrade offer.


Subject is "Move windows 10 to another desktop":

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...3-640629264449

Perce

  #13  
Old January 23rd 16, 02:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

On 1/22/2016 2:01 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:50:08 -0800, mike wrote:

On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro license?

To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.

Perce


You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


If backup/imaging software is in the business of enforcing MS licensing
policies, this would be the first that I've heard of it.

Moving software between systems in violation of TOS is not "backup."

Microsoft is in the business of enforcing their licensing policies.
A central point with some assets is a fine target for enforcement
of those policies.
I believe that it would be a bad business decision for any business with
an address and assets to assist in circumventing said policies.
And it costs their customers nothing. If you are operating within the
terms of your license, MS will be happy to reactivate your system.
  #14  
Old January 23rd 16, 03:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Mullen[_2_]
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

mike wrote on 1/22/2016 8:31 PM:
On 1/22/2016 2:01 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:50:08 -0800, mike wrote:

On 1/22/2016 10:00 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 01/22/2016 11:37 AM, I wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to
pension off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would
there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware
and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you
install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10
activation will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with
the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's
genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device
runs 7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded
from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro
license?

To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.

Perce


You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the
answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software. But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.


If backup/imaging software is in the business of enforcing MS licensing
policies, this would be the first that I've heard of it.

Moving software between systems in violation of TOS is not "backup."


Totally depends on the software license for the particular program.

I have many programs that allow installing copies on multiple computers
without any additional licenses/payments.

And I'm talking about apps, not the OS.



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Old January 23rd 16, 07:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win10Pro upgraded from Win7Pro Retail: install to new hardware?

Percival P. Cassidy wrote on 01/22/2016 8:26 PM:
On 01/22/2016 06:21 PM, . . .winston wrote:

I upgraded a Win7Pro installation to Win10Pro. If I want to pension
off
that hardware and install Win10Pro to the new machine, would
there be
any problem?

E.g., if I use the original Win7Pro media to install to the new
hardware
with the intention of upgrading it to Win10Pro, will I be unable to
activate Win7Pro on the grounds that it is "in use" on different
hardware by virtue of its activation key being the basis for the
Win10Pro activation on the previous machine?

Or can I install a recent version of Win10Pro on the new hardware
and
use the Win7Pro key to activate it?

Or...?

If you upgraded Win7 Pro to Win10 Pro on the same device, if you
install
7 Pro on another unit and attempt to clean install Win10 activation
will
certainly fail -the digital entitled license is good for the other
device.

If you did the same as above and attempted to upgrade a again with
the
same Win7 license to Win10, the activation may fail.
If it does fail, the online or phone activation is the only route.

Are you really asking if after you use your Win7 Pro license's
genuine
Windows to upgrade to Win10 can you continue to use both Win7 Pro
and
Win10 Pro on two different devices (regardless of which device runs
7 or
8).
- Technically, No.

No, I mean: If I take out of service the machine that was upgraded
from
retail Win7Pro to Win10Pro, can I "reuse" the original Win7Pro
license?

To be more specific, what I would like to do is simply replace the
motherboard and reactivate Win10Pro. Possible?

Or use Macrium Reflect's "Deploy to new hardware" feature.


You keep restating the same question, but that doesn't change the
answer.
MS has been very clear that the TOS demands that the OS is locked to
the
hardware. They gave you a free UPGRADE. You accepted the TOS for the
free UPGRADE.

If you ignore the TOS, there may be options to pirate the software.
But
that's an entirely different issue.

I don't know how macrium does it, but syspep invalidates your license
and requires you to reactivate. I can't imagine macrium would keep
the license activated on different hardware. MS lawyers would be all
over them.

In the meantime I found the following answer on answers.microsoft.com:

"If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail
version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer. =====
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version"



Most likely not from an official MSFT source.

Without a link, the information you've provided is suspicious. Nor is it
anything close to language used in the Win7 or Win10 EULA. And more
importantly don't assume, if you review a Win10 EULA that for a retail
or OEM version that it applies to the free upgrade offer.


Subject is "Move windows 10 to another desktop":

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...3-640629264449


Perce

Andre, a very helpful colleague and friend of mine wrote that article in
June 2015 well prior to Win10 release. And like anyone else, in this
forum and the Answer info is not Microsoft released or policy.

In fact that write-up says nothing about your earlier apparent intent -
use both Win7 and Win0 which is based on the use of a Win7 license to
upgrade to Win10 on a given device.

Nothing prevents you from removing the Win10 (upgraded from a retail
Win7) on a device and putting Win10 on the new device either by (a)clean
installing retail 7 then upgrade to 10 or (b) clean install 7 then use
freely available Win10 Media Creation Tool created media to upgrade
Win10 or (c) perform a clean install of Windows 10 using a corresponding
edition of Win10 as long as the Win10 build is 1511/10586.x (this
feature was originally implemented in the Windows 10 Insider Program
with version 1511 build 10565 and subsequently released with the
1511/10586.x Media Creation Tool created media in Nov. 2015).

None of the above though validates the ability for license
amplification(using Win7 on one device and Win10 on another).

Finally, any subsequent use of the same license with product key on a
different device may require as noted before fail automatic activation
and require online or phone activation...if the latter have a pen/pencil
handy and answer the questions properly.

Good luck.



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