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Old June 8th 18, 01:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Probably during the major update to win10 2 or 3 weeks ago, Task Manager
changed and now there is a status column. That wasn't there before, was
it?

And in that column on a few lines is a pointed hollow green balloon with
a short string hanging down.

That seems to mean that process is suspended.

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.

What did I do to cause these to be suspended.

What do they have in common?

Do I ever need them and will they come out of suspension if I do?

TIA


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Old June 8th 18, 01:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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micky wrote:

Probably during the major update to win10 2 or 3 weeks ago, Task Manager
changed and now there is a status column. That wasn't there before, was
it?

And in that column on a few lines is a pointed hollow green balloon with
a short string hanging down.


Green leaf icon: means an idle process has been suspended. The process
will still have a memory footprint but a suspended process can be
quickly killed. While suspended, the process will consume no CPU
cycles.

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.


How long ago since they were last used?

What did I do to cause these to be suspended.


Did you use them right now (to see they get unsuspended)?

What do they have in common?


They went idle.

Do I ever need them and will they come out of suspension if I do?


Whenever called, they come out of suspended state.


https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...w-build-17672/
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Old June 8th 18, 02:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default changes to task manager

micky wrote:
Probably during the major update to win10 2 or 3 weeks ago, Task Manager
changed and now there is a status column. That wasn't there before, was
it?

And in that column on a few lines is a pointed hollow green balloon with
a short string hanging down.

That seems to mean that process is suspended.

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.

What did I do to cause these to be suspended.

What do they have in common?

Do I ever need them and will they come out of suspension if I do?

TIA


I expect the App model has been around and
consistent for a while.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win.../app-lifecycle

If an App is suspended, it can be killed if the OS needs
resources. But that's not an arrow in the diagram.

As an example, the Groove music player, when you
would iconify it, the music would stop playing. And
that means the task state changed, and the program
was not designed to deal with it. They fixed that.
(Now, I think Groove is slated for the chopping block.)

If an App program window isn't on the screen, it's a safe bet
that allows program state transition. Cortana might be
an exception, in the sense that the Cortana search
dialog entry box is always there. But if the Cortana
response window is not showing, there's no reason
for Cortana to be running in the foreground.

Paul
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Old June 8th 18, 03:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default changes to task manager

VanguardLH wrote:

micky wrote:

Probably during the major update to win10 2 or 3 weeks ago, Task Manager
changed and now there is a status column. That wasn't there before, was
it?

And in that column on a few lines is a pointed hollow green balloon with
a short string hanging down.


Green leaf icon: means an idle process has been suspended. The process
will still have a memory footprint but a suspended process can be
quickly killed. While suspended, the process will consume no CPU
cycles.

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.


How long ago since they were last used?

What did I do to cause these to be suspended.


Did you use them right now (to see they get unsuspended)?

What do they have in common?


They went idle.

Do I ever need them and will they come out of suspension if I do?


Whenever called, they come out of suspended state.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...w-build-17672/


Oh, in addition, as I recall, only UWP apps can be suspended. Suspend
started with Windows Vista.
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Old June 8th 18, 02:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:57:52 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

Probably during the major update to win10 2 or 3 weeks ago, Task Manager
changed and now there is a status column. That wasn't there before, was
it?

And in that column on a few lines is a pointed hollow green balloon with
a short string hanging down.


Green leaf icon: means an idle process has been suspended. The process
will still have a memory footprint but a suspended process can be
quickly killed. While suspended, the process will consume no CPU
cycles.


That's good. And I guess it does look more like a leaf than a balloon.

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.


How long ago since they were last used?


November of 1932.

What did I do to cause these to be suspended.


Did you use them right now (to see they get unsuspended)?


I don't even know what they do or what uses them.

What do they have in common?


They went idle.


Aha.

Do I ever need them and will they come out of suspension if I do?


Whenever called, they come out of suspended state.


Good enough. Thanks, Van.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...w-build-17672/


And thanks for this.

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Old June 8th 18, 03:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:40:31 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:57:52 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

It says that for me for Cortana, and just a second ago was added Cortana
Background Task Host, Microsoft Outlook Communicattions,
Microsoft.Photos.exe, Offic Hub Task Host, Video Application, and
Windows Shell Experience Host.


How long ago since they were last used?


November of 1932.


That made me laugh. :-)

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Old June 8th 18, 10:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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micky wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

How long ago since they were last used?


November of 1932.


Any particular reason for picking that month and year?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932

Or maybe Nov 5 (but way back further to 1605) for Guy Fawkes Night
celebrated in Britain because you just watched the "V for Vendetta"
movie where the main character wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Or are you telling us you are over 85 years old?
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Old June 9th 18, 02:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 8 Jun 2018 16:50:24 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

How long ago since they were last used?


November of 1932.


Any particular reason for picking that month and year?


Yes. I remember it was only a couple years after the crash and that the
Depression had just started, but we had already ordered the computer and
we had to take it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932

Or maybe Nov 5 (but way back further to 1605) for Guy Fawkes Night
celebrated in Britain because you just watched the "V for Vendetta"
movie where the main character wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Or are you telling us you are over 85 years old?


Before me, it was my father's computer.

He would be 126 now.
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Old June 9th 18, 03:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default changes to task manager

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 8 Jun 2018 16:50:24 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

How long ago since they were last used?
November of 1932.

Any particular reason for picking that month and year?


Yes. I remember it was only a couple years after the crash and that the
Depression had just started, but we had already ordered the computer and
we had to take it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932

Or maybe Nov 5 (but way back further to 1605) for Guy Fawkes Night
celebrated in Britain because you just watched the "V for Vendetta"
movie where the main character wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Or are you telling us you are over 85 years old?


Before me, it was my father's computer.

He would be 126 now.


How many 12AX7 tubes did it take ?

They did make motherboards with vacuum tubes,
so it's not unheard of.

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/aopentube/

Paul
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Old June 10th 18, 09:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 08 Jun 2018 22:14:08 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 8 Jun 2018 16:50:24 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

How long ago since they were last used?
November of 1932.
Any particular reason for picking that month and year?


Yes. I remember it was only a couple years after the crash and that the
Depression had just started, but we had already ordered the computer and
we had to take it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932

Or maybe Nov 5 (but way back further to 1605) for Guy Fawkes Night
celebrated in Britain because you just watched the "V for Vendetta"
movie where the main character wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Or are you telling us you are over 85 years old?


Before me, it was my father's computer.

He would be 126 now.


How many 12AX7 tubes did it take ?


Eight. 4 push-pull circuits, one for each channel, front and rear
stereo. Neighbors would come to look at it and listen to it. It was
an IBM WT, the precursor to the XT.

They did make motherboards with vacuum tubes,
so it's not unheard of.

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/aopentube/

Paul


 




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