New mobo and SSD

I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

On 01/31/2014 06:39 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.



It is not likely the thing will even boot , since the H/W is different.
If you are lucky enough to get it to boot you will see that Win7 is no
different from previous versions of Windows and the system will attempt
to reconfigure itself. You would have to manually install any drivers
not added automatically.


More than likely though, you will have to perform a fresh install.

Art Todesco wrote:

I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

This might help:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...e-f5193f72f348

You could always try and do what you want, but i think you are scared you
will break something

On 01/31/2014 08:52 AM, Darklight wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:

I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

This might help:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...e-f5193f72f348

You could always try and do what you want, but i think you are scared you
will break something




With XP, if you did such a transfer, one could perform a "repair
install" by booting from the CD.

The only way that I know of to perform a "repair install" of Win7
is to do an in-place upgrade...but that can only be done from withing a
running system so is not of much use.

That said, if i were doing this, I'd just pop the old drive into the new
machine and see if it boots. When I've tried "drive transplants" once in
a while it works...though not usually.

On 31/01/2014 7:39 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

Completely possible, and is in fact what I normally do. To transfer the
OS to the new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan

On 31/01/2014 8:19 AM, philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 06:39 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.



It is not likely the thing will even boot , since the H/W is different.
If you are lucky enough to get it to boot you will see that Win7 is no
different from previous versions of Windows and the system will attempt
to reconfigure itself. You would have to manually install any drivers
not added automatically.


More than likely though, you will have to perform a fresh install.

Wrong! It's always worth a shot, because it may boot with no problem. A
few drivers may need to be installed after the first boot, but that's
about it. I've done a lot of upgrades with no full reinstalls needed.

Yousuf Khan

philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 08:52 AM, Darklight wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:

I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

This might help:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...e-f5193f72f348


You could always try and do what you want, but i think you are scared you
will break something




With XP, if you did such a transfer, one could perform a "repair
install" by booting from the CD.

The only way that I know of to perform a "repair install" of Win7
is to do an in-place upgrade...but that can only be done from withing a
running system so is not of much use.

That said, if i were doing this, I'd just pop the old drive into the new
machine and see if it boots. When I've tried "drive transplants" once in
a while it works...though not usually.

We should be encouraging Art to try it, in the name of science :-)

This is how I'd try it:

1) Using Regedit, do the driver re-arm thing. This prepares
the disk for a change of BIOS disk controller setting (on
the new machine). Doing the first two is enough for most
people (the last two are for RAID configurations).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\pciide\Start == 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\msahci\Start == 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\iaStorV\Start == 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\servic es\iaStor\Start == 0

2) Don't reboot. Now, clone to the new SSD. When the clone boots on the new hardware,
it's ready for the various possibilities for disk controller operating mode.
Because the registry re-arm hasn't "taken" yet.

3) Boot up the new hardware with the clone. It'll discover and install some
of the new hardware.

4) I've heard of cases, where the part that breaks, seems to be
related to activation. Whereas in other situations you have
30 days to activate or 72 hours to activate, I've heard of the
OS just freezing up when you try this. You have no opportunity
to do anything with "slmgr".

Which is why this'll be a fun experiment. To see if it survives
the boot process, or just freezes up and that's it.

Paul

On 01/31/2014 09:26 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 31/01/2014 8:19 AM, philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 06:39 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.



It is not likely the thing will even boot , since the H/W is different.
If you are lucky enough to get it to boot you will see that Win7 is no
different from previous versions of Windows and the system will attempt
to reconfigure itself. You would have to manually install any drivers
not added automatically.


More than likely though, you will have to perform a fresh install.

Wrong! It's always worth a shot, because it may boot with no problem. A
few drivers may need to be installed after the first boot, but that's
about it. I've done a lot of upgrades with no full reinstalls needed.

Yousuf Khan



Unless the hardware is pretty similar there is about a 20% chance of it
working. It's possible you have had good results because you are staying
with the same chipsets. In this situation I believe the OP has
completely different H/W

I do literally hundreds of computer repairs a year and I do always "give
it a try" first.

The method Paul described looks like a good possibility and I will try
it the next time.

On 1/31/2014 10:24 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 31/01/2014 7:39 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I presently have a W7 Pro setup with a 120G SSD. I have a new 240G SSD
and a new mobo (different brand/proc). I think I know the answer here,
but can I image the SSD for use with the new mobo/proc and then, once up
and running, change the mobo drivers? Or is this not a good idea? I
just hate to start from scratch.

Completely possible, and is in fact what I normally do. To transfer the
OS to the new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan
Thanks for all the info. I always hate doing a kludge thing like trying
to swap out different mobos. I've actually done it before, but the
mobos were the same model; original one got zapped by lightning. I
think, for the best install, it's always best to do a complete
re-install. Still on the fence, however, I'm leaning to do a
re-install. There's not a lot of applications and data on the machine,
as it is a dedicated computer for a single purpose.

On 01/31/2014 11:10 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Xhe new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan
Thanks for all the info. I always hate doing a kludge thing like trying
to swap out different mobos. I've actually done it before, but the
mobos were the same model; original one got zapped by lightning. I
think, for the best install, it's always best to do a complete
re-install. Still on the fence, however, I'm leaning to do a
re-install. There's not a lot of applications and data on the machine,
as it is a dedicated computer for a single purpose.



That's a different story from what I was thinking. If the new mobo is
the same model it should work fine.

On 1/31/2014 12:27 PM, philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 11:10 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Xhe new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan
Thanks for all the info. I always hate doing a kludge thing like trying
to swap out different mobos. I've actually done it before, but the
mobos were the same model; original one got zapped by lightning. I
think, for the best install, it's always best to do a complete
re-install. Still on the fence, however, I'm leaning to do a
re-install. There's not a lot of applications and data on the machine,
as it is a dedicated computer for a single purpose.



That's a different story from what I was thinking. If the new mobo is
the same model it should work fine.

I agree, but this one is different ... Even changing from AMD to Intel.

On 01/31/2014 02:01 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 1/31/2014 12:27 PM, philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 11:10 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Xhe new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan
Thanks for all the info. I always hate doing a kludge thing like trying
to swap out different mobos. I've actually done it before, but the
mobos were the same model; original one got zapped by lightning. I
think, for the best install, it's always best to do a complete
re-install. Still on the fence, however, I'm leaning to do a
re-install. There's not a lot of applications and data on the machine,
as it is a dedicated computer for a single purpose.



That's a different story from what I was thinking. If the new mobo is
the same model it should work fine.

I agree, but this one is different ... Even changing from AMD to Intel.



I would definitely try the method that Paul described.


There is also a sysprep utility designed for HD transplantation
but I've never used it so don't know much about it.

philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 02:01 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 1/31/2014 12:27 PM, philo wrote:
On 01/31/2014 11:10 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Xhe new drive, use an imaging program, like Macrium Reflect.

Yousuf Khan
Thanks for all the info. I always hate doing a kludge thing like
trying
to swap out different mobos. I've actually done it before, but the
mobos were the same model; original one got zapped by lightning. I
think, for the best install, it's always best to do a complete
re-install. Still on the fence, however, I'm leaning to do a
re-install. There's not a lot of applications and data on the machine,
as it is a dedicated computer for a single purpose.



That's a different story from what I was thinking. If the new mobo is
the same model it should work fine.

I agree, but this one is different ... Even changing from AMD to Intel.



I would definitely try the method that Paul described.


There is also a sysprep utility designed for HD transplantation
but I've never used it so don't know much about it.

Even if the transfer was a complete disaster, you could still
try the repair install (in-place upgrade) idea. It just means
a little fun with Windows Update. The new machine should still
boot from a DVD, no matter what state the SSD is in.

Paul

En el artículo , Yousuf
Khan escribió:

Wrong! It's always worth a shot

Agreed.

It'll fail if the disk controller hardware on the new board is
incompatible with that on the old board, which will give a STOP 0x7B
blue screen (inaccessible_boot_device) because the driver loaded is the
wrong one.

But well worth a try.

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(")_(")

On 01/31/2014 05:41 PM, Paul wrote:
phX
There is also a sysprep utility designed for HD transplantation
but I've never used it so don't know much about it.

Even if the transfer was a complete disaster, you could still
try the repair install (in-place upgrade) idea. It just means
a little fun with Windows Update. The new machine should still
boot from a DVD, no matter what state the SSD is in.

Paul



However the Win7 in-place-upgrade needs to be done from a running system
(unless you know a workaround).

With XP one could just boot from the CD and perform a repair install