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  #46  
Old August 9th 16, 11:01 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Snit[_2_]
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On 8/9/16, 2:56 PM, in article [email protected], "Melzzzzz"
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 14:52:15 -0700
Snit wrote:


Seems lots of Linux users are working on using Macs / OS X.

Yep, OSX is preferred choice of Linux professionals, in my experience...


Re-reading Marek's comments he may have been trying to speak for me... he is
a very dishonest person.



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  #47  
Old August 9th 16, 11:01 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marek Novotny[_2_]
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On 2016-08-09, Old Friend wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Old Friend wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:42 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:
You got so powned by Peter by the way.

You avoid the initial topic...

You got Powned!!

Snit couldn't even setup NFS on a Mac using only what Apple provides. He
ran away like a screaming girl for a $20 utility. HAHHAHAHAHAHA That's
all Peter's challenge was... ::CHOKE:: Major ::CHOKE::


Watching snit repeat the same snipped and taken out of context quotes
from Peter is quite funny. Snit's dishonesty has been once again exposed
and giving him some of his own medicine is just extra icing on the cake.

In order to trust snit you have to make the decision that the 100's of
people in Sandman's thread are all out to get snit for some reason and
are lying about him. What's particularly interesting is that snit has
been using this and other dishonest tactics for years.

Here is an example of snit pulling this same snip, misquoting method on
Tim Adams.
This thread is from 2006 !

http://www.archivum.info/comp.sys.ma.../03782/Re-Tim-
Adams'-Quote-Debate.html

Snit's been quiet lately. I wonder if the IRS or Arizona state officials
have contacted him yet?
I sure hope so.


Busy trying to learn how to use the Mac...


More than likely getting ready to mobilize his latest version of the
sock puppet army. When snit gets confronted with his own dishonesty his
first method is to deny, deny, deny. When that fails, he mobilized the
army of socks to create havoc and confusion in the group so as to act
like a smoke screen to bury his own lies and dishonesty.
Get ready for it.
That was his chosen method of trolling in comp.sys.mac.advocacy before
the entire group banded together and completely ignored snit at which
point he moved his circus to comp.os.linux.advocacy.


He lost it. He'll just talk to himself... He's half a bubble off...

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  #49  
Old August 9th 16, 11:08 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 8/9/16, 3:01 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Old Friend wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Old Friend wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:42 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:
You got so powned by Peter by the way.

You avoid the initial topic...

You got Powned!!

Snit couldn't even setup NFS on a Mac using only what Apple provides. He
ran away like a screaming girl for a $20 utility. HAHHAHAHAHAHA That's
all Peter's challenge was... ::CHOKE:: Major ::CHOKE::


Watching snit repeat the same snipped and taken out of context quotes
from Peter is quite funny. Snit's dishonesty has been once again exposed
and giving him some of his own medicine is just extra icing on the cake.

In order to trust snit you have to make the decision that the 100's of
people in Sandman's thread are all out to get snit for some reason and
are lying about him. What's particularly interesting is that snit has
been using this and other dishonest tactics for years.

Here is an example of snit pulling this same snip, misquoting method on
Tim Adams.
This thread is from 2006 !

http://www.archivum.info/comp.sys.ma.../03782/Re-Tim-
Adams'-Quote-Debate.html

Snit's been quiet lately. I wonder if the IRS or Arizona state officials
have contacted him yet?
I sure hope so.

Busy trying to learn how to use the Mac...


More than likely getting ready to mobilize his latest version of the
sock puppet army. When snit gets confronted with his own dishonesty his
first method is to deny, deny, deny. When that fails, he mobilized the
army of socks to create havoc and confusion in the group so as to act
like a smoke screen to bury his own lies and dishonesty.
Get ready for it.
That was his chosen method of trolling in comp.sys.mac.advocacy before
the entire group banded together and completely ignored snit at which
point he moved his circus to comp.os.linux.advocacy.


He lost it. He'll just talk to himself... He's half a bubble off...


1) I do not know everything. Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with
a GUI and while I do not know much about it I found a GUI for him to do so.

2) You then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing how
to set up NFS (something I never said I did know).

3) Because of my horrible wrong here you deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of you making an ass of yourself, to forge quotes, to lie, and to
troll.

4) I give you lots of attention (though to save time largely through
repeated text) as you through your tantrum and you fail to actually speak of
how you made a complete ass of yourself.

5) You conclude you have somehow shown yourself to be a... better person?
What? Really... what the hell?



--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

  #50  
Old August 9th 16, 11:10 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 8/9/16, 3:06 PM, in article [email protected], "Melzzzzz"
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 14:45:33 -0700
Snit wrote:

On 8/9/16, 1:58 PM, in article [email protected],
"Melzzzzz" wrote:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:56:24 -0700
Marek Novotny wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:42 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:
You got so powned by Peter by the way.

You avoid the initial topic...

You got Powned!!

Snit couldn't even setup NFS on a Mac using only what Apple
provides. He ran away like a screaming girl for a $20 utility.
HAHHAHAHAHAHA That's all Peter's challenge was... ::CHOKE::
Major ::CHOKE::

Hm, I have NFS set up on my iMac, I didn't did it though, rather
sysadmin


Off hand I have no idea how to set it up -- never have done so. Sure
I could do it if I wanted with a few minutes of searching. Marek is
acting like this is something I should be ashamed of... not knowing
everything. It is just weird.

Try this:
http://lowendmac.com/2009/introducti...s-in-mac-os-x/

First: THANK YOU. No meta-debate from you... just actual technical info.

Second: Peter might want that... it was a task he talked about. Not
something I have ever needed. Still, will skim through it just to learn. Do
appreciate it.


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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

  #51  
Old August 9th 16, 11:12 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Taylor[_3_]
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Old Friend wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Old Friend wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:42 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:
You got so powned by Peter by the way.

You avoid the initial topic...

You got Powned!!

Snit couldn't even setup NFS on a Mac using only what Apple provides. He
ran away like a screaming girl for a $20 utility. HAHHAHAHAHAHA That's
all Peter's challenge was... ::CHOKE:: Major ::CHOKE::


Watching snit repeat the same snipped and taken out of context quotes
from Peter is quite funny. Snit's dishonesty has been once again exposed
and giving him some of his own medicine is just extra icing on the cake.

In order to trust snit you have to make the decision that the 100's of
people in Sandman's thread are all out to get snit for some reason and
are lying about him. What's particularly interesting is that snit has
been using this and other dishonest tactics for years.

Here is an example of snit pulling this same snip, misquoting method on
Tim Adams.
This thread is from 2006 !

http://www.archivum.info/comp.sys.ma.../03782/Re-Tim-
Adams'-Quote-Debate.html

Snit's been quiet lately. I wonder if the IRS or Arizona state officials
have contacted him yet?
I sure hope so.


Busy trying to learn how to use the Mac...


More than likely getting ready to mobilize his latest version of the
sock puppet army. When snit gets confronted with his own dishonesty his
first method is to deny, deny, deny. When that fails, he mobilized the
army of socks to create havoc and confusion in the group so as to act
like a smoke screen to bury his own lies and dishonesty.
Get ready for it.
That was his chosen method of trolling in comp.sys.mac.advocacy before
the entire group banded together and completely ignored snit at which
point he moved his circus to comp.os.linux.advocacy.


You are making all of this up because you beg for snit's attention and
fear discussing Linux or technology. I get it but it still seems weird
to me.


  #52  
Old August 9th 16, 11:14 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Taylor[_3_]
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Snit wrote:

On 8/9/16, 2:48 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:58 PM, in article [email protected], "Melzzzzz"
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:56:24 -0700
Marek Novotny wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:
On 8/9/16, 1:42 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:
You got so powned by Peter by the way.

You avoid the initial topic...

You got Powned!!

Snit couldn't even setup NFS on a Mac using only what Apple provides.
He ran away like a screaming girl for a $20 utility. HAHHAHAHAHAHA
That's all Peter's challenge was... ::CHOKE:: Major ::CHOKE::


Hm, I have NFS set up on my iMac, I didn't did it though, rather
sysadmin

Off hand I have no idea how to set it up -- That's how Peter powned me!


Yup... You got pwned!


Ah, so it has become clear:

1) I do not know everything. Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with
a GUI and while I do not know much about it I found a GUI for him to do so.

2) You then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing how
to set up NFS (something I never said I did know).

3) Because of my horrible wrong here you deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of you making an ass of yourself, to forge quotes, to lie, and to
troll.

You are such a mature person!

But, I admit, I am giving you lots of attention. THAT really is what you
want.


They are begging for your attention Michael.

  #53  
Old August 9th 16, 11:15 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marek Novotny[_2_]
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On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

// snip

1) I do not know everything. Peter challenged me to set up NFS on a
Mac with only that which came on the Mac out of the box. I choked and
ran like a little tard to find a GUI util to do it for me cause I have
no clue about the command nfsd.

2) You then mocked me for failing the challenge and misrepresenting
it cause I am a lame loser liar and won't deal with my failure.


There ya go... You're getting it...

--
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny
  #54  
Old August 9th 16, 11:19 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marek Novotny[_2_]
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On 2016-08-09, John Taylor wrote:
They are begging for your attention Michael.


Oh look... The moron brought out his sock right on cue... Lack of
intelligence. This guy is totally brain dead..

--
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny
  #55  
Old August 9th 16, 11:19 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 8/9/16, 3:15 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

1) I do not know everything. Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with a
GUI and while I do not know much about it I found a GUI for him to do so.

2) You then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing how
to set up NFS (something I never said I did know).

3) Because of my horrible wrong here you deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of you making an ass of yourself, to forge quotes, to lie, and to
troll.

4) I give you lots of attention (though to save time largely through repeated
text) as you through your tantrum and you fail to actually speak of how you
made a complete ass of yourself.

5) You conclude you have somehow shown yourself to be a... better person?
What? Really... what the hell?


There ya go... You're getting it...




--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

  #56  
Old August 9th 16, 11:29 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marek Novotny[_2_]
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On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

// snip

I think your meds have fried what little brains you had in the first
place.

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  #57  
Old August 9th 16, 11:30 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Snit[_2_]
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On 8/9/16, 3:19 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, John Taylor wrote:
They are begging for your attention Michael.


Oh look... The moron brought out his sock right on cue... Lack of
intelligence. This guy is totally brain dead..


1) Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with a GUI. He wanted it to
ship with the Mac but there is no such tool so I found a third party GUI for
setting up NFS (something I know little about but it should not be that hard
to do). Peter had the option to use that GUI tool or the CLI tools that come
with the Mac. Either seem fine options.

2) Marek then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing
how to set up NFS (something I never said I did know). Clearly Marek holds
me to a very high standard -- he assumes I know pretty much EVERTHING about
all areas of tech. Interesting how he sees me as being so knowledgable that
for ANY area I am not versed in he thinks it is odd.

3) Marek throw a public toddler tantrum and deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of him making an ass of himself, to forge quotes, to lie, push
meta-meta-debates, repeat the juvenile "Everyone is Snit" gag, and to engage
in name calling and insults.

4) I give Marek lots of attention (though to save time largely through
repeated text).

5) Marek concluded he somehow showed himself to be a... better person? What?
Really... what the hell?

Ah, the wonders of Usenet!


--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

  #58  
Old August 9th 16, 11:30 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Snit[_2_]
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On 8/9/16, 3:29 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

// snip

I think your meds have fried what little brains you had in the first
place.


1) Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with a GUI. He wanted it to
ship with the Mac but there is no such tool so I found a third party GUI for
setting up NFS (something I know little about but it should not be that hard
to do). Peter had the option to use that GUI tool or the CLI tools that come
with the Mac. Either seem fine options.

2) Marek then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing
how to set up NFS (something I never said I did know). Clearly Marek holds
me to a very high standard -- he assumes I know pretty much EVERTHING about
all areas of tech. Interesting how he sees me as being so knowledgable that
for ANY area I am not versed in he thinks it is odd.

3) Marek throw a public toddler tantrum and deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of him making an ass of himself, to forge quotes, to lie, push
meta-meta-debates, repeat the juvenile "Everyone is Snit" gag, and to engage
in name calling and insults.

4) I give Marek lots of attention (though to save time largely through
repeated text).

5) Marek concluded he somehow showed himself to be a... better person? What?
Really... what the hell?

Ah, the wonders of Usenet!


--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

  #59  
Old August 9th 16, 11:33 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marek Novotny[_2_]
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On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

repeating it over and over again won't change the past, moron. You
choked.. Got pwned by peter. Deal with it, loser....

--
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny
  #60  
Old August 9th 16, 11:43 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 8/9/16, 3:33 PM, in article
, "Marek Novotny"
wrote:

On 2016-08-09, Snit wrote:

repeating it over and over again won't change the past, moron. You
choked.. Got pwned by peter. Deal with it, loser....


1) Peter asked about setting up NFS on a Mac with a GUI. He wanted it to
ship with the Mac but there is no such tool so I found a third party GUI for
setting up NFS (something I know little about but it should not be that hard
to do). Peter had the option to use that GUI tool or the CLI tools that come
with the Mac. Either seem fine options.

2) Marek then mocked me for pointing him to a GUI (?!) and for not knowing
how to set up NFS (something I never said I did know). Clearly Marek holds
me to a very high standard -- he assumes I know pretty much EVERTHING about
all areas of tech. Interesting how he sees me as being so knowledgable that
for ANY area I am not versed in he thinks it is odd.

3) Marek throw a public toddler tantrum and deemed it acceptable to snip all
quotes of him making an ass of himself, to forge quotes, to lie, push
meta-meta-debates, repeat the juvenile "Everyone is Snit" gag, and to engage
in name calling and insults.

4) I give Marek lots of attention (though to save time largely through
repeated text).

5) Marek concluded he somehow showed himself to be a... better person? What?
Really... what the hell?

Ah, the wonders of Usenet!


--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
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