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Any equvalent of Norton Utilities?



 
 
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Old October 15th 17, 04:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Any equvalent of Norton Utilities?

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:09:05 -0400, micky
wrote:

What ever happened to Ed Norton, anyhow?


Trixie divorced his ass and he went to Vegas with his brother Peter
who was living large on the Symantec money. They ****ed it all away on
hookers and blow. Now they live in a dumpster behind the MGM Grand and
look for day labor opportunities in front of the Home Depot
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Old October 15th 17, 04:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Any equvalent of Norton Utilities?

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:10:43
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Sat, 7 Oct 2017 15:43:55
-0600, "Bill in Co" wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:
Was in a store the other day, just looking. Norton Securities was for
sale, and that got me to recalling when I was using Norton Utilities
for all manner of cool, neat and gee-whiz stuff.
But Norton Utilities was not for sale - at least not there.

Does anyone know if it still is, or if not what a reasonable
alternative to it?

tschus
pyotr
Well, I see Paul gave some suggestions for alternatives, plus I think Norton
became more bloatware when it sold out to Symantec. I think you may be
remembering the days long past (like a decade ago) when it really was a
great utility.

What ever happened to Ed Norton, anyhow?


I think Jackie Gleason put him in a head lock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honeymooners

Peter Norton was Ed's younger brother.


Yes, you and gfretwell agree on that.

Here, he doesn't have the geek glasses, like the picture
on the software box.


A guy with glasses knows a lot more about computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Norton


How come I didn't get rich after I was laid off?

Paul


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Old October 16th 17, 02:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Any equvalent of Norton Utilities?

Steve Hayes on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 05:56:43 +0200
typed in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general the following:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 13:02:40 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:


Was in a store the other day, just looking. Norton Securities was for
sale, and that got me to recalling when I was using Norton Utilities
for all manner of cool, neat and gee-whiz stuff.
But Norton Utilities was not for sale - at least not there.

Does anyone know if it still is, or if not what a reasonable
alternative to it?


Not really equivalent, but Glary Utilities does *some* of the things
that Norton Utilities used to do. Another program that used to do
similar stuff was PC Tools.


I remember PC Tools.
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Old October 17th 17, 03:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Any equvalent of Norton Utilities?

On 2017-10-15 02:04, Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote:
On 2017-10-07 16:40, Paul wrote:

I'd really like a disk editor, that can tell me what file
I'm on top of when hex editing. But I've not seen such a thing
for some time. I still use a hex editor, and with a utility like
NFI.exe, I should be able to compute the start address if I ever
needed to do something that dangerous. There aren't too many good
reasons to be editing a file, without the help of the file
system to present it to you.

Come'on, for someone with your skills, typing "best hex disk editor"
in Google shouldn't be too hard. We already know the best one is
WinHex, but it's expensive. Free ones include HxD (very basic) and
Active@ (looks good! see http://www.disk-editor.org/). There are
others...

Best Regards,


HxD doesn't identify the file you're on top of,
while opening a disk for raw access.


No, it's extremely basic, but it's free...

The pictures I can see in the Active@ one, I can't
see an example there either, of a "walk and talk"
interface. They show it editing $MFT, but did that
happen by walking over $MFT, or was there a menu
item to open it ?


I just tried it. There are templates, so you can go to the MFT and the
entries are color-coded etc, but I have not found how to jump from a MFT
entry to the target file's first sector, and when I just read some
random sector it does not show me which file that sector belongs to.
It's still a lot better than HxD ;-)

The Norton one, was one of the few where the filename
you were on-top-of, showed at the top. And it was
a kind of "educational" mode.

HxD does everything I need, in the sense that it
supports "search", which is frequently enough for
my purposes (of locating whether something exists
or not, on a disk drive). I've never tried my
hand at editing $MFT, because it could be
changing underneath me. Like take an OS like Win 10,
where the OS never stops messing around, and at
random times. Editing the $MFT on a "data" partition
would potentially be safer, although I don't know why
I'd want to do it. The simplest operation you could
do on the $MFT, would be flipping the undelete byte.
Maybe they dis-mount the volume while messing with
the $MFT.


You obviously want to play with the disk structure only once offline.
Editing a file's content is fine but messing with the MFT is probably
useless as Windows will have cached portions of it and may just re-write
over your changes.

I dug out the Norton software I had, and installed
it in a VM, and DiskEdit in there is an MSDOS level
utility. And once I had the name of it, I could go
looking for pictures of what it looked like. That
wasn't the one.

Whatever editor I was using, had a larger X*Y matrix
on the screen. Much larger than DiskEdit. Which suggests
it came after the year 2000 or so.

I tried searching on pictures of disk editors, and *nothing*
matches the picture I have in mind. So now I don't know
what that utility was.


I got a couple DOS editors, I even have one that can disassemble a
sector, but I don't recall which, if any, displayed the filename. I'd
have to boot in DOS and try them out, not too keen on that lol. I see
FED, DISKEDIT and HEXIT in my editors folder. I tried opening FED from
XP and all I got was a black shell. HEXIT wants a filename, so that's
probably not working raw on disk. DISKEDIT can't read the disk while
inside Windows and refuses to let me click HELP to see what it's about.
Oh well lol...

Regards,

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