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unable to install KB913446
Jerry, it's all up hill. LOL
As to being forced to go to SP2, I doubt it. My wife's Win 98 SE machine still gets critical updates. Every year, Bill the Gates says he'll drop support for 98, but stil hasn't They want folks to by XP... [[Effective June 30, 2006, Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Me (and their related components) will transition to a non-supported status. After this date, Microsoft will no longer provide any incident support options or security updates. Microsoft is not offering a custom support agreement for these products. Microsoft is retiring support for these products because they are outdated and can expose customers to security risks. We recommend that customers who are still running Windows 98 or Windows Me upgrade to a newer, more secure Microsoft operating system, such as Windows XP, as soon as possible. Customers who upgrade to Windows XP report improved security, richer functionality, and increased productivity. ]] from... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , All Things Mopar hunted and pecked: Today Wesley Vogel commented courteously on the subject at hand and I don't have to agree, we just see things through a different set of sunglassess. Well I for one do not use or recommend anything Windows Live, or MS AntiSpyware or Windows Defender as I guess it is now called, POS. I also recommend disabling many of the worthless POS services that MS decided that we needed in XP. I also do not have the POS SP2, although I will have to get that POS before the end of August if I want to continue getting Critical Updates. I do not have any of that dotNET crap either. Well, we certainly agree here! I don't beta test for free, and sure as hell will never beta something as dangerous as an O/S or some hair-brained "military intelligence" equivalent - "Microsoft Security." I fought SP2 for a year but decided to go with it on my new PC. It is indeed a bloated POS. I may have commented here, I know I did somewhere, despite doubling my CPU power and a significant upgrade in HD space, and from 512 meg to 4 gig of memory, SP2 runs no faster than SP1 did on my older PC. Of course, the new stuff I've need to buy or upgrade to for best results with SP2 are themselvess bloated and slow. Like Norton 2006. Yeah, I should practice what I preach more and never bought it. As to being forced to go to SP2, I doubt it. My wife's Win 98 SE machine still gets critical updates. Every year, Bill the Gates says he'll drop support for 98, but stil hasn't. He's an arrogant *******, true, but a consumate businessman. There's no upside to ****ing off his current customers to the point where they might do something really silly, like buy their next PC loaded with Linux. Keep having fun, Jerry. I'm peddling as fast as I can, Wes, but there's days I think I'm still going downhill. Gotta go, the adding machine needs some more oil! grin -- ATM, aka Jerry |
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unable to install KB913446
Today Wesley Vogel commented courteously on the subject at
hand Jerry, it's all up hill. LOL As to being forced to go to SP2, I doubt it. My wife's Win 98 SE machine still gets critical updates. Every year, Bill the Gates says he'll drop support for 98, but stil hasn't They want folks to by XP... "buy"? [[Effective June 30, 2006, Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Me (and their related components) will transition to a non-supported status. After this date, Microsoft will no longer provide any incident support options or security updates. Microsoft is not offering a custom support agreement for these products. Guess Millenium Editions lasted even less long than did "The 1000 Year Reich", huh? Microsoft is retiring support for these products because they are outdated and can expose customers to security risks. We recommend that customers who are still running Windows 98 or Windows Me upgrade to a newer, more secure Microsoft operating system, such as Windows XP, as soon as possible. Customers who upgrade to Windows XP report improved security, richer functionality, and increased productivity. ]] from... this is total nonsense! What would you expect M$ to say, SP2 is slower and lousier? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx The company you shill for has been saying that for years and years. Maybe support will stop, or maybe it won't. Again, there's no upside to stopping support and ****ing off customers who can't or won't upgrade their O/S is there? In my case, I can't wait to get my wife off that POS 98. But, when she gets my older PC, it /will/ be staying SP1. I thought after a year of "watchful waiting" that SP2 would be OK for me. Not. Bloated, huge, slow POS. But, I can't roll it back, so I have to live with it, or suffer though untold pain nuking, reinstalling, and getting my old hardware and old software running again. I commented before that I now with twice the CPU, 8 times the memory, and a HD maybe 50% faster, Windoze - accent on "doze" - is slower than SP1. Worse, it kills HD access times on things as simple as just getting a folder contents list after it'd been rolled out of some cache, either on my 3- partition HD or my 2-partion external. SP2-only apps are also bloated, slow, huge, POS as well. And, to it's main purpose - sucurity - if SP2 is "protecting" me, he's awfully quiet. I would have thought I'd see a list of all the ports available and selectively be able to turn them on and off. But, when I looked, it's just a blank page. Now how the hell would I know how many there are, much less which ones to close and which ones to leave open? Sorry, Wes, after some 5 months of experience, I am not a fan of SP2 and tell anyone who asks /not/ to upgrade an otherwise OK SP1 system. -- ATM, aka Jerry |
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Jerry, I had SP2 for a real short time. I uninstalled the SOB. I hated it.
Don't consider me a fan of SP2. I know that the deal with SP2 was supposed to be security, that's why there are 5 to 10 Critical Updates every month. LOL -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , All Things Mopar hunted and pecked: Today Wesley Vogel commented courteously on the subject at hand Jerry, it's all up hill. LOL As to being forced to go to SP2, I doubt it. My wife's Win 98 SE machine still gets critical updates. Every year, Bill the Gates says he'll drop support for 98, but stil hasn't They want folks to by XP... "buy"? [[Effective June 30, 2006, Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Me (and their related components) will transition to a non-supported status. After this date, Microsoft will no longer provide any incident support options or security updates. Microsoft is not offering a custom support agreement for these products. Guess Millenium Editions lasted even less long than did "The 1000 Year Reich", huh? Microsoft is retiring support for these products because they are outdated and can expose customers to security risks. We recommend that customers who are still running Windows 98 or Windows Me upgrade to a newer, more secure Microsoft operating system, such as Windows XP, as soon as possible. Customers who upgrade to Windows XP report improved security, richer functionality, and increased productivity. ]] from... this is total nonsense! What would you expect M$ to say, SP2 is slower and lousier? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx The company you shill for has been saying that for years and years. Maybe support will stop, or maybe it won't. Again, there's no upside to stopping support and ****ing off customers who can't or won't upgrade their O/S is there? In my case, I can't wait to get my wife off that POS 98. But, when she gets my older PC, it /will/ be staying SP1. I thought after a year of "watchful waiting" that SP2 would be OK for me. Not. Bloated, huge, slow POS. But, I can't roll it back, so I have to live with it, or suffer though untold pain nuking, reinstalling, and getting my old hardware and old software running again. I commented before that I now with twice the CPU, 8 times the memory, and a HD maybe 50% faster, Windoze - accent on "doze" - is slower than SP1. Worse, it kills HD access times on things as simple as just getting a folder contents list after it'd been rolled out of some cache, either on my 3- partition HD or my 2-partion external. SP2-only apps are also bloated, slow, huge, POS as well. And, to it's main purpose - sucurity - if SP2 is "protecting" me, he's awfully quiet. I would have thought I'd see a list of all the ports available and selectively be able to turn them on and off. But, when I looked, it's just a blank page. Now how the hell would I know how many there are, much less which ones to close and which ones to leave open? Sorry, Wes, after some 5 months of experience, I am not a fan of SP2 and tell anyone who asks /not/ to upgrade an otherwise OK SP1 system. -- ATM, aka Jerry |
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unable to install KB913446
Today Wesley Vogel commented courteously on the subject at
hand Jerry, I had SP2 for a real short time. I uninstalled the SOB. I hated it. Don't consider me a fan of SP2. I know that the deal with SP2 was supposed to be security, that's why there are 5 to 10 Critical Updates every month. LOL I don't follow, Wes. You're in here giving advice on an O/S you don't personally use? It doesn't matter why you dumped SP2, I simply don't understand an MVP /not/ running the current flagship product, if for no other reason, to feel the pain personally and personally be able to try and duplicate the problems/questions of posters here. If you had to live your life as many of us do, with slowness and a constant fight to maintain our independence from Bill the Gates trying to force us into his mold, you'd be a much better MVP, but then, you already know I'm not a real fan of that crowd, even though things I've said come under the category of stereotypes and sweeping generalazations based on unfounded asssumptions. -- ATM, aka Jerry |
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