Ethernet network won't work without third (wireless) computer.

I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

Is your Windows 98 acting like a firewall? What is the IP address of the
router and each of your computer then?

"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able to
see each other thru IP addresses.

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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
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Your Installation Specialist
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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

Open a command prompt (Run-cmd) then type in

ipconfig /all

do this on each computer to find out the ip addresses then once you find out
all ip addresses you can type in each window on eac computer

Ping IPaddress

Where IPaddress is the actual ip address of one of the other computers. If
you can see them via IP address there will be a reply from that computer
other wise there will be a timeout.

BTW: All the ip addresses should be similar...

After you get this far report back and we will take further steps.

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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
. ..
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

Thanks Randem, it's after midnight here so I must give it up until
tomorrow evening.

Stan Hilliard


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 18:51:25 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
Open a command prompt (Run-cmd) then type in

ipconfig /all

do this on each computer to find out the ip addresses then once you find out
all ip addresses you can type in each window on eac computer

Ping IPaddress

Where IPaddress is the actual ip address of one of the other computers. If
you can see them via IP address there will be a reply from that computer
other wise there will be a timeout.

BTW: All the ip addresses should be similar...

After you get this far report back and we will take further steps.

--
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Your Installation Specialist
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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?

2) Are these the right IP addresses?
Win98SE TOWER IP Address: 192.168.1.1
XP-Pro HOMEBUILT IP Address: 192.168.1.5
XP-Home BARBS-LAPTOP IP Address: 192.168.1.7

3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.

=================================================
==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM

=================================================
==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
7:01:48 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
7:01:48 PM

===============================================
==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
Notebook Adapter WN511B
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F

What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
your Win98 computer setup for that address. Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.

--
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?

2) Are these the right IP addresses?
Win98SE TOWER IP Address: 192.168.1.1
XP-Pro HOMEBUILT IP Address: 192.168.1.5
XP-Home BARBS-LAPTOP IP Address: 192.168.1.7

3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.

=================================================
==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM

=================================================
==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
7:01:48 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
7:01:48 PM

===============================================
==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
Notebook Adapter WN511B
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F

What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
your Win98 computer setup for that address. Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?

2) Are these the right IP addresses?
Win98SE TOWER IP Address: 192.168.1.1
XP-Pro HOMEBUILT IP Address: 192.168.1.5
XP-Home BARBS-LAPTOP IP Address: 192.168.1.7

3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.

=================================================
==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM

=================================================
==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
7:01:48 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
7:01:48 PM

===============================================
==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
Notebook Adapter WN511B
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F

Thanks Randem, it's after midnight here so I must give it up until
tomorrow evening.

Stan Hilliard


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 18:51:25 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
Open a command prompt (Run-cmd) then type in

ipconfig /all

do this on each computer to find out the ip addresses then once you find out
all ip addresses you can type in each window on eac computer

Ping IPaddress

Where IPaddress is the actual ip address of one of the other computers. If
you can see them via IP address there will be a reply from that computer
other wise there will be a timeout.

BTW: All the ip addresses should be similar...

After you get this far report back and we will take further steps.

--
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Your Installation Specialist
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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?

2) Are these the right IP addresses?
Win98SE TOWER IP Address: 192.168.1.1
XP-Pro HOMEBUILT IP Address: 192.168.1.5
XP-Home BARBS-LAPTOP IP Address: 192.168.1.7

3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.

=================================================
==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM

=================================================
==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
7:01:48 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
7:01:48 PM

===============================================
==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
Notebook Adapter WN511B
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
8:46:01 PM
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F

Open a command prompt (Run-cmd) then type in

ipconfig /all

do this on each computer to find out the ip addresses then once you find out
all ip addresses you can type in each window on eac computer

Ping IPaddress

Where IPaddress is the actual ip address of one of the other computers. If
you can see them via IP address there will be a reply from that computer
other wise there will be a timeout.

BTW: All the ip addresses should be similar...

After you get this far report back and we will take further steps.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
...
==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
. ..
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Win98PC.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
on XP-Home laptop.

All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
three IP addresses?
Stan


On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem"
wrote:
That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to the
Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able to
see each other thru IP addresses.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
.. .
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

According to the manual, that router is supposed to be connected to the cable modem. You can make sure all your computers are with the IP address in the same subnet so they will be able to see each other no matter how many are online. For the detailed settings, maybe Netgear is a good resource for support.

෴



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message ...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard

Yeah I agree with the post of randem.

à·´
"Donald" wrote in message ...
According to the manual, that router is supposed to be connected to the cable modem. You can make sure all your computers are with the IP address in the same subnet so they will be able to see each other no matter how many are online. For the detailed settings, maybe Netgear is a good resource for support.

෴



"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message ...
I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
Ethernet to Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.

Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?

Here is the hardware configuration:
Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.

Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
each other.

Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
I change this situation?

Stan Hilliard