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Old June 4th 14, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
David.WE.Roberts
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I've had a problem for some considerable time where the W8.1 update
wouldn't work on my dual boot (Ubuntu and grub as boot manager) system.

I thought this was a problem with grub and decided to try and fix this
today.

I booted from my W8 upgrade DVD and tried the repair options.
Followed various strategies but then noted that W8 off the CD couldn't
find any W8 install, but was reporting two Windows Vista installs.

Now there was a backup image (old) of Vista at the back end of the 1TB HDD
but the first image on the drive was Windows 8 which booted fine through
grub.

So I am baffled as to why W8 is not being identified - I did a clean
install from the upgrade media before adding anything else to the drive.

However this probably explains why W8.1 upgrade wouldn't work if Windows
can't find a W8 install.

Used the same media to install W8 (now upgraded to 8.1) on my laptop and
that is working fine (apart from some Microsoft sh*t with Skype which
prevents you using your Skype ID with the App - you need to install the
full program to use Skype as it was).

I feel a brand new install coming on.

Cheers

Dave R
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Old June 4th 14, 07:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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David.WE.Roberts wrote, On 6/4/2014 2:32 PM:
I've had a problem for some considerable time where the W8.1 update
wouldn't work on my dual boot (Ubuntu and grub as boot manager) system.

I thought this was a problem with grub and decided to try and fix this
today.

I booted from my W8 upgrade DVD and tried the repair options.
Followed various strategies but then noted that W8 off the CD couldn't
find any W8 install, but was reporting two Windows Vista installs.

Now there was a backup image (old) of Vista at the back end of the 1TB HDD
but the first image on the drive was Windows 8 which booted fine through
grub.

So I am baffled as to why W8 is not being identified - I did a clean
install from the upgrade media before adding anything else to the drive.

However this probably explains why W8.1 upgrade wouldn't work if Windows
can't find a W8 install.

Used the same media to install W8 (now upgraded to 8.1) on my laptop and
that is working fine (apart from some Microsoft sh*t with Skype which
prevents you using your Skype ID with the App - you need to install the
full program to use Skype as it was).

I feel a brand new install coming on.

Cheers

Dave R

Possibly Win 8 and 8.1 need to see the traditional expected Windows
System volume and related bootloader.

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Old June 4th 14, 10:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
David.WE.Roberts
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Default 'Invisible' W8 installation

On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:46:11 -0400, ...winston wrote:

David.WE.Roberts wrote, On 6/4/2014 2:32 PM:
I've had a problem for some considerable time where the W8.1 update
wouldn't work on my dual boot (Ubuntu and grub as boot manager) system.

I thought this was a problem with grub and decided to try and fix this
today.

I booted from my W8 upgrade DVD and tried the repair options.
Followed various strategies but then noted that W8 off the CD couldn't
find any W8 install, but was reporting two Windows Vista installs.

Now there was a backup image (old) of Vista at the back end of the 1TB
HDD but the first image on the drive was Windows 8 which booted fine
through grub.

So I am baffled as to why W8 is not being identified - I did a clean
install from the upgrade media before adding anything else to the
drive.

However this probably explains why W8.1 upgrade wouldn't work if
Windows can't find a W8 install.

Used the same media to install W8 (now upgraded to 8.1) on my laptop
and that is working fine (apart from some Microsoft sh*t with Skype
which prevents you using your Skype ID with the App - you need to
install the full program to use Skype as it was).

I feel a brand new install coming on.

Cheers

Dave R

Possibly Win 8 and 8.1 need to see the traditional expected Windows
System volume and related bootloader.


I restored the boot sector/MBR (I think) from the command line in Recovery.

When the Recovery commands searched for Windows installations to rebuild
the boot menu they found two Windows installations on the disc (as they
should) but both were identified as Windows Vista.

I was also given the option afterwards to quit or boot another version of
Windows.
Again, Vista was offered.

Fortunately I don't have a lot invested in the W8 system so I'll just
scrub the disc and start again.

Cheers

Dave R
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Old June 4th 14, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
David.WE.Roberts
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Default 'Invisible' W8 installation

On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:46:11 -0400, ...winston wrote:

David.WE.Roberts wrote, On 6/4/2014 2:32 PM:
I've had a problem for some considerable time where the W8.1 update
wouldn't work on my dual boot (Ubuntu and grub as boot manager) system.

I thought this was a problem with grub and decided to try and fix this
today.

I booted from my W8 upgrade DVD and tried the repair options.
Followed various strategies but then noted that W8 off the CD couldn't
find any W8 install, but was reporting two Windows Vista installs.

Now there was a backup image (old) of Vista at the back end of the 1TB
HDD but the first image on the drive was Windows 8 which booted fine
through grub.

So I am baffled as to why W8 is not being identified - I did a clean
install from the upgrade media before adding anything else to the
drive.

However this probably explains why W8.1 upgrade wouldn't work if
Windows can't find a W8 install.

Used the same media to install W8 (now upgraded to 8.1) on my laptop
and that is working fine (apart from some Microsoft sh*t with Skype
which prevents you using your Skype ID with the App - you need to
install the full program to use Skype as it was).

I feel a brand new install coming on.

Cheers

Dave R

Possibly Win 8 and 8.1 need to see the traditional expected Windows
System volume and related bootloader.


Ooops - think I misinterpreted!

I thought the problem might be Grub getting in the way, but the attempted
repair using W8 boot media has made me wonder.
 




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