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  #1  
Old July 19th 15, 09:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kenny
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Get this on a regular basis, separate error message for each of the 4 cores:

"Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Processor-Power
Date: 17/07/2015 22:30:19
Event ID: 37
Task Category: (7)
Level: Warning
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Laptop
Description:
The speed of processor 1 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The
processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since
the last report."

This is a fairly new Acer laptop with Intel I5 4 core CPU, 4GB RAM and 1TB
HDD and since buying it has seemed to me a bit sluggish. I am fairly
meticulous about regular cleanup, defrag, malware & AV scans, startup
programs etc. OS, BIOS & drivers up to date.
Clicking the more info link in Event Viewer tells me no info on that error.
Is this the cause of the sluggishness and what if anything can I do about
it?
Any advice appreciated.

Kenny Cargill


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  #2  
Old July 19th 15, 12:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Kenny" wrote in message ...
Get this on a regular basis, separate error message for each of the 4
cores:

"Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Processor-Power
Date: 17/07/2015 22:30:19
Event ID: 37
Task Category: (7)
Level: Warning
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Laptop
Description:
The speed of processor 1 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware.
The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds
since the last report."

This is a fairly new Acer laptop with Intel I5 4 core CPU, 4GB RAM and 1TB
HDD and since buying it has seemed to me a bit sluggish. I am fairly
meticulous about regular cleanup, defrag, malware & AV scans, startup
programs etc. OS, BIOS & drivers up to date.
Clicking the more info link in Event Viewer tells me no info on that
error.
Is this the cause of the sluggishness and what if anything can I do about
it?
Any advice appreciated.

Kenny Cargill


It's probably generated by your Power plan (reduce processer speed to save
your battery). I had a Gateway that would almost constantly run in reduced
speed mode, but would kick it up when necessary. It, too, at times seemed to
be a bit sluggish. You could change how slow it gets in your power settings
and see if that helps with the sluggishness, but at the cost of battery
time.

My desktop AMD also runs in reduced cycles for the most part, but it doesn't
lag at all. Not sure if there's a BIOS setting for that or not. Might be
worth checking :-)
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Old July 19th 15, 02:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kenny
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Default Interpreting Event Viewer messages?

Never thought of Power Plan, have changed it to High Performance, it was set
at Balanced. Too early to say if it's making a difference. Not concerned
about battery usage since it's mostly used plugged in.

"SC Tom" wrote in message ...



"Kenny" wrote in message ...
Get this on a regular basis, separate error message for each of the 4
cores:

"Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Processor-Power
Date: 17/07/2015 22:30:19
Event ID: 37
Task Category: (7)
Level: Warning
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Laptop
Description:
The speed of processor 1 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware.
The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds
since the last report."

This is a fairly new Acer laptop with Intel I5 4 core CPU, 4GB RAM and 1TB
HDD and since buying it has seemed to me a bit sluggish. I am fairly
meticulous about regular cleanup, defrag, malware & AV scans, startup
programs etc. OS, BIOS & drivers up to date.
Clicking the more info link in Event Viewer tells me no info on that
error.
Is this the cause of the sluggishness and what if anything can I do about
it?
Any advice appreciated.

Kenny Cargill


It's probably generated by your Power plan (reduce processer speed to save
your battery). I had a Gateway that would almost constantly run in reduced
speed mode, but would kick it up when necessary. It, too, at times seemed to
be a bit sluggish. You could change how slow it gets in your power settings
and see if that helps with the sluggishness, but at the cost of battery
time.

My desktop AMD also runs in reduced cycles for the most part, but it doesn't
lag at all. Not sure if there's a BIOS setting for that or not. Might be
worth checking :-)
--
SC Tom

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Old July 19th 15, 02:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy Burns[_3_]
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Default Interpreting Event Viewer messages?

Kenny wrote:

Not concerned about battery usage since it's mostly used plugged in.


Then you may wish to investigate whether you have an option to only 50%
charge rather than 100% charge the battery. Otherwise, come the day you
do want to use it on battery, you may find it's become rather poor at
holding charge ...

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Old July 20th 15, 05:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stephen Wolstenholme[_6_]
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:01:06 +0100, "Kenny" wrote:

Changing power plan to best performance doesn't seem to make much
difference, I had expected that because it has a 4 core CPU it would be
faster, seems I was wrong.
To Andy I had discharged the battery to about 30% and removed it anyway to
prolong it's life.

Kenny


The problem with multicore CPU is the software must allocate threads
to processors. Not a lot of application writers bother to do that.

SetThreadIdealProcessor is the clue but it is not available at user
command level.

Steve

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Old July 23rd 15, 11:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Kenny wrote:
Spent some time today with a 4 year old Packard Bell laptop with similar
specs ie: Intel I5, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD and it seems faster than this
one, especially start up time. The only real difference is that one's
running Win 7! Since Win 10 will be free I'll wait till then, format C:
partition and try Win 7 on it before installing Win 10.
Question 1 to group: What's the best way to compare the 3 OS to
determine if installed OS makes any significant difference in performance?
Question 2: This has a customised Acer BIOS and can only use Acer
drivers, can I flash BIOS with a generic one and install Intel drivers
or should I forget that idea?

Kenny


Windows 7 is the best of the bunch. I'll save
you the trouble of testing it. I bought another
copy of Windows 7 about three weeks ago, backing
up my opinion with my wallet.

Both Win8 and Win10 have a 1024x768 VESA driver,
for when no graphics driver is available. This
will allow you to test your laptop if you want.

I'm signed up with the Windows Insider program,
and so I can keep updating 10240 build, as the
new (post-RTM) builds come in. That's how you
test, for better or worse, the new Windows 10.
All it costs me, is a hard drive, and a *lot*
of downloading. The 10240 build was supposed to
be distributed to OEMs, as an ingredient to making
their copy of Win10 for new computers.

Paul
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Old July 24th 15, 12:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Interpreting Event Viewer messages?

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:34:36 +0100, "Kenny" wrote:

Spent some time today with a 4 year old Packard Bell laptop with similar
specs ie: Intel I5, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD and it seems faster than this one,
especially start up time. The only real difference is that one's running
Win 7! Since Win 10 will be free I'll wait till then, format C: partition
and try Win 7 on it before installing Win 10.


Question 2: This has a customised Acer BIOS and can only use Acer drivers,
can I flash BIOS with a generic one and install Intel drivers or should I
forget that idea?


If you want to flash the BIOS, you need to use a BIOS version specifically
made for that system/motherboard. I've never heard of using a 'generic' BIOS
in a case like that.

Regarding "Acer drivers", do you mean the motherboard chipset drivers that
Acer provided? As above, you'll get motherboard chipset drivers from Acer.
Device drivers for other hardware can come from any suitable source.

I'm playing in Paul's back yard, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old July 24th 15, 07:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kenny
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Default Interpreting Event Viewer messages?

Although this laptop has Intel hardware it won't let me install Intel
drivers, only those customised by Acer.

Kenny

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:34:36 +0100, "Kenny" wrote:

Spent some time today with a 4 year old Packard Bell laptop with similar
specs ie: Intel I5, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD and it seems faster than this one,
especially start up time. The only real difference is that one's running
Win 7! Since Win 10 will be free I'll wait till then, format C: partition
and try Win 7 on it before installing Win 10.


Question 2: This has a customised Acer BIOS and can only use Acer drivers,
can I flash BIOS with a generic one and install Intel drivers or should I
forget that idea?


If you want to flash the BIOS, you need to use a BIOS version specifically
made for that system/motherboard. I've never heard of using a 'generic' BIOS
in a case like that.

Regarding "Acer drivers", do you mean the motherboard chipset drivers that
Acer provided? As above, you'll get motherboard chipset drivers from Acer.
Device drivers for other hardware can come from any suitable source.

I'm playing in Paul's back yard, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old July 24th 15, 07:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy Burns[_3_]
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Default Interpreting Event Viewer messages?

Kenny wrote:

Although this laptop has Intel hardware it won't let me install Intel
drivers, only those customised by Acer.


If you try harder you can get the Intel drivers installed ... after the
first version is on, future updates go on without moaning.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/12156/how-to-forcibly-update-your-intel-drivers-at-your-own-risk

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Old July 24th 15, 09:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kenny
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Thanks, that's interesting. Miracast/WiDi is a bit flaky on this Acer but I
can't be sure whether it's the laptop or the TV. Wanted to try different
(Intel) drivers but discovered I couldn't. Since I'll be wiping drive for
Win 10 I'll play around with it a bit before committing to a final install.

Kenny

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...

Kenny wrote:

Although this laptop has Intel hardware it won't let me install Intel
drivers, only those customised by Acer.


If you try harder you can get the Intel drivers installed ... after the
first version is on, future updates go on without moaning.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/12156/how-to-forcibly-update-your-intel-drivers-at-your-own-risk

 




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