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Dual Boot Windows 10/Windows 8.1
Would it be possible to create a dual boot with a Windows 10 RTM upgrade ISO
and Windows 8.1? I would like to try Windows 10 first when it is available before committing to it. Back in 2009 I purchased a Dell Vista laptop for my daughter with a free Windows 7 upgrade to be provided free when released in a couple of months which I am still using When I proceeded to upgrade Vista I somehow managed to inadvertently create a dual boot Vista/7 system. I just left Vista on the laptop just in case I needed to get into the computer if there was an issue. Since I would never be using both operating systems simultaneously, I didn't feel as though it violated the EULA particularly since the system allowed the dual boot to proceed anyway. Any insights are appreciated. Thanks, Rich |
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Dual Boot Windows 10/Windows 8.1
Rich wrote:
Would it be possible to create a dual boot with a Windows 10 RTM upgrade ISO and Windows 8.1? I would like to try Windows 10 first when it is available before committing to it. Back in 2009 I purchased a Dell Vista laptop for my daughter with a free Windows 7 upgrade to be provided free when released in a couple of months which I am still using When I proceeded to upgrade Vista I somehow managed to inadvertently create a dual boot Vista/7 system. I just left Vista on the laptop just in case I needed to get into the computer if there was an issue. Since I would never be using both operating systems simultaneously, I didn't feel as though it violated the EULA particularly since the system allowed the dual boot to proceed anyway. Any insights are appreciated. Thanks, Rich With the "free" upgrade, there is an implied license management system. And at the current time, I don't know how that works. Whether you would boot Win8.1 some day and it would say "Not Genuine", because of your freebie Win10 usage on the same hard drive. The whole "Free Upgrade" idea is a mess. Think of the situation for a laptop you're about to sell. You do your messing around with licenses - you had your fun. You do a factory restore. Now, should the laptop say "Not Genuine", because you took part in the "free" offer ? How will that work ? Will the buyer of your laptop have to suffer, because you had fun ? They just made the whole launch unbelievably complicated. Each new rule we learn about, has unintended side effects. And a book will need to be written to cover all of them! Normally, upgrading would just be a two dimensional problem, and all we had to worry about was "from-to" pairs. Whereas with the Windows 10 launch, a couple of aspects involve "time" (1 year to upgrade, 30 days to downgrade), so the upgrade matrix is three dimensional, with transition paths added in that third dimension. And to date, Microsoft is doing a remarkably poor job of documenting this stuff. It ****es me off, when I "discover" a new rule, while researching some other unrelated issue on a third-party web site. ******* If you *buy* a copy of Windows 10 (yes, you can buy copies), then the licensing issue fades away. Each OS of your dual boot is independent, from a license key perspective. Do you want to spend $140 for that level of comfort ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832588491 It's only people partaking of their "free upgrade", where so many uncertainties are involved. Microsoft seems to be implying, that one license "is not being amplified to run two OSes". And the question is, will this be enforced, at what decision points (you're told you are "Not Genuine" when you try to update Windows Media Player), and with active or passive techniques. It's just a recipe for a disaster. Paul |
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Dual Boot Windows 10/Windows 8.1
"Paul" wrote in message ... Rich wrote: Would it be possible to create a dual boot with a Windows 10 RTM upgrade ISO and Windows 8.1? I would like to try Windows 10 first when it is available before committing to it. Back in 2009 I purchased a Dell Vista laptop for my daughter with a free Windows 7 upgrade to be provided free when released in a couple of months which I am still using When I proceeded to upgrade Vista I somehow managed to inadvertently create a dual boot Vista/7 system. I just left Vista on the laptop just in case I needed to get into the computer if there was an issue. Since I would never be using both operating systems simultaneously, I didn't feel as though it violated the EULA particularly since the system allowed the dual boot to proceed anyway. Any insights are appreciated. Thanks, Rich With the "free" upgrade, there is an implied license management system. And at the current time, I don't know how that works. Whether you would boot Win8.1 some day and it would say "Not Genuine", because of your freebie Win10 usage on the same hard drive. The whole "Free Upgrade" idea is a mess. Think of the situation for a laptop you're about to sell. You do your messing around with licenses - you had your fun. You do a factory restore. Now, should the laptop say "Not Genuine", because you took part in the "free" offer ? How will that work ? Will the buyer of your laptop have to suffer, because you had fun ? They just made the whole launch unbelievably complicated. Each new rule we learn about, has unintended side effects. And a book will need to be written to cover all of them! Normally, upgrading would just be a two dimensional problem, and all we had to worry about was "from-to" pairs. Whereas with the Windows 10 launch, a couple of aspects involve "time" (1 year to upgrade, 30 days to downgrade), so the upgrade matrix is three dimensional, with transition paths added in that third dimension. And to date, Microsoft is doing a remarkably poor job of documenting this stuff. It ****es me off, when I "discover" a new rule, while researching some other unrelated issue on a third-party web site. ******* If you *buy* a copy of Windows 10 (yes, you can buy copies), then the licensing issue fades away. Each OS of your dual boot is independent, from a license key perspective. Do you want to spend $140 for that level of comfort ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832588491 It's only people partaking of their "free upgrade", where so many uncertainties are involved. Microsoft seems to be implying, that one license "is not being amplified to run two OSes". And the question is, will this be enforced, at what decision points (you're told you are "Not Genuine" when you try to update Windows Media Player), and with active or passive techniques. It's just a recipe for a disaster. Paul Clearly then this is a vastly different situation than a free Dell upgrade to Windows 7 in 2009. I have a year to just wait and see how Windows 10 pans out for other upgraders. Excellent information. Thanks for the time invested in your explanation. Rich |
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