Licensing question

I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

Thanks,

John

On 01/06/2017 22:13, Yes wrote:
I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

Thanks,

John

Yes you can still do it. Go and buy a retail version and enjoy Windows
10 like most of us here.

It is generally said that you can get automatic activation after every
120 days. This means that after installing the OS and inserting your
serial/PID key, the system activates in the background. If the
installation/re-installation is on the same machine that was previously
activated then the wait is not needed. It is always automatic and
Microsoft servers knows your system.

Good luck.

--
With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

Yes wrote:

I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...siness/compare

Upgrade licenses chain back to the base or full version upon which that
upgrade chain is attached. Don't start with nor get an OEM license if
you want to move the base or upgrade to a different computer. Look for
"full" in the product's title. If it doesn't say "full", ask the seller
for clarification. If they don't respond, look elsewhere.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588529
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588507

On 06/01/2017 05:53 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yes wrote:

I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...siness/compare

Upgrade licenses chain back to the base or full version upon which that
upgrade chain is attached. Don't start with nor get an OEM license if
you want to move the base or upgrade to a different computer. Look for
"full" in the product's title. If it doesn't say "full", ask the seller
for clarification. If they don't respond, look elsewhere.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588529
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588507

Take the free thumb drive. Hell they're both the same price!

Big Al wrote:

On 06/01/2017 05:53 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yes wrote:

I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...siness/compare

Upgrade licenses chain back to the base or full version upon which that
upgrade chain is attached. Don't start with nor get an OEM license if
you want to move the base or upgrade to a different computer. Look for
"full" in the product's title. If it doesn't say "full", ask the seller
for clarification. If they don't respond, look elsewhere.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588529
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588507

Take the free thumb drive. Hell they're both the same price!

Yeah, that's what I figured. You get the OS plus you get a USB flash
drive for free. The ISO that I got for Windows 10 Home x64 is only
3.5GB and the Pro edition is probably the same size (often the product
key is what unlocks the enhanced features). So you'll get a small USB
flash drive and likely a slow cheap one (USB2, not the fastest
read/write speeds).

Some places just sell you the license key. To get the ISO, they point
you to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10.
After the payment is accepted, they send an e-mail with the license key
and you have to get the ISO. The ISO is free but unusable without a
valid license key (well, to get beyond a trial period).

With the USB flash drive in the OS package, you have a backup of the
ISO; however, I'm not sure I would rely soley on flash media to save an
ISO backup of my OS installer. I've had flash drives go bad so, poof,
there would go your re-installation of the OS (until you re-downloaded
the ISO).

VanguardLH wrote:

Big Al wrote:

On 06/01/2017 05:53 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yes wrote:

I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start
selling a "pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when
you replace or upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or
"full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install
it on a new machine rather than having to buy a new license.
I've seen adverts for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a
flash drive, but I didn't see anything about whether the license
lets you move it as you upgrade your pc.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...siness/compare

Upgrade licenses chain back to the base or full version upon which
that upgrade chain is attached. Don't start with nor get an OEM
license if you want to move the base or upgrade to a different
computer. Look for "full" in the product's title. If it doesn't
say "full", ask the seller for clarification. If they don't
respond, look elsewhere.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588529
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16832588507

Take the free thumb drive. Hell they're both the same price!

Yeah, that's what I figured. You get the OS plus you get a USB flash
drive for free. The ISO that I got for Windows 10 Home x64 is only
3.5GB and the Pro edition is probably the same size (often the product
key is what unlocks the enhanced features). So you'll get a small USB
flash drive and likely a slow cheap one (USB2, not the fastest
read/write speeds).

Some places just sell you the license key. To get the ISO, they point
you to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10.
After the payment is accepted, they send an e-mail with the license
key and you have to get the ISO. The ISO is free but unusable
without a valid license key (well, to get beyond a trial period).

With the USB flash drive in the OS package, you have a backup of the
ISO; however, I'm not sure I would rely soley on flash media to save
an ISO backup of my OS installer. I've had flash drives go bad so,
poof, there would go your re-installation of the OS (until you
re-downloaded the ISO).

I'd probably go the flash drive route. Most importantly to me was that
the EULA for Windows 10 Pro seems (afaict) to say that you can move the
O/S to another pc as long as you uninstall it from the previous
computer (only one O/S installation at a time).

I upgrade and/or replace my pc eqpt from time to time and don't want to
even remotely get hassled by MS arguing that I need a new license just
because my hardware config has changed outside their definition of what
is a "new" computer. I keep my pcs an average of eight years but tweak
the hardware more frequently. In the past, MS treated those tweaks as
potentially invalidating the license because the computer became "new"
and did run into that problem once before.

You're right about questioning how long a flash drive may last. I'd
probably d/l the ISO as well to store and back up as a precaution.
Well, at the moment, just investigating my options. No hard deadlines.

John

On 06/01/17 23:45, Good Guy wrote:
On 01/06/2017 22:13, Yes wrote:
I haven't kept up with Windows 10. Did MS relent and start selling a
"pro" version that can be moved to a new machine when you replace or
upgrade your pc? MS used to call them "retail" or "full version".

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license. I've seen adverts
for a Windows 10 Pro version distributed on a flash drive, but I didn't
see anything about whether the license lets you move it as you upgrade
your pc.

Thanks,

John

Yes you can still do it. Go and buy a retail version and enjoy Windows
10 like most of us here.

Paying for an OS is so 1980's and what do you get WannaCry and a load of
other ****.

I understand that your life suxx.

Goof Boy wrote:

Yes you can still do it. Go and buy a retail version and enjoy Windows
10 like most of us here.

chuckle

It is always automatic and
Microsoft servers knows your system.

No ****, it's theirs.

Good luck.

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 23:40:41 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-06-01 21:48, VanguardLH wrote:
[...]
Yeah, that's what I figured. You get the OS plus you get a USB flash
drive for free. [...]

These days, 16GB flash drives cost less than coffee and your fave
fats+carbohydrates concoction.



Just out of curiosity, I went to Amazon.com and looked at 16GB flash
drive prices. The varied a lot, but the cheapest I saw was $6.13 (USD)

You must drink very expensive coffee. g

Ken Blake wrote:

Wolf K wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Yeah, that's what I figured. You get the OS plus you get a USB flash
drive for free.

These days, 16GB flash drives cost less than coffee and your fave
fats+carbohydrates concoction.

Just out of curiosity, I went to Amazon.com and looked at 16GB flash
drive prices. The varied a lot, but the cheapest I saw was $6.13 (USD)

You must drink very expensive coffee. g

Wolf didn't mention the size of his cup (I'm talking about a drinking
cup, not a protective one).

https://www.caffeineinformer.com/wha...tarbucks-drink

Wolf also included a side order of some high glycemic side order, maybe
a cinnamon bun drenched in sugar syrup, to add another $4 to the bill
for a caffeine+sugar quickie.

By the way, the Windows 10 ISO that I got was only 3.5 GB in size,
nowhere close to 16 GB. There are still 4 GB USB2 flash drives being
sold for under $3.

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:50:13 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

Wolf K wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Yeah, that's what I figured. You get the OS plus you get a USB flash
drive for free.

These days, 16GB flash drives cost less than coffee and your fave
fats+carbohydrates concoction.

Just out of curiosity, I went to Amazon.com and looked at 16GB flash
drive prices. The varied a lot, but the cheapest I saw was $6.13 (USD)

You must drink very expensive coffee. g

Wolf didn't mention the size of his cup (I'm talking about a drinking
cup, not a protective one).


LOL!


https://www.caffeineinformer.com/wha...tarbucks-drink


Ugh! I wouldn't pay $.02 for any Starbucks coffee. You may disagree,
but as far as I'm concerned, theirs is the worst coffee in the world.

On 01/06/2017 22:13, Yes wrote:

The main thing was that you could uninstall the O/S and install it on a
new machine rather than having to buy a new license.
Who told you that you have to uninstall the OS before you can re-install
it again on a new machine? How would you do this if the machine has
died, kaput!!

Microsoft has stopped visiting people to check if they are still using
pirated software. Only Jason is currently using pirated software so
please don't spread the fudge here on these newsgroups. You can use
Linux if that is what you want. They claim they have a better system
but they failed to solve this simple Math problem:

http://i.imgur.com/90NIDpG.png http://i.imgur.com/90NIDpG.png





--
With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

Ken Blake wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

Wolf K wrote:

These days, 16GB flash drives cost less than coffee and your fave
fats+carbohydrates concoction.

Just out of curiosity, I went to Amazon.com and looked at 16GB flash
drive prices. The varied a lot, but the cheapest I saw was $6.13 (USD)
You must drink very expensive coffee. g

https://www.caffeineinformer.com/wha...tarbucks-drink

Ugh! I wouldn't pay $.02 for any Starbucks coffee. You may disagree,
but as far as I'm concerned, theirs is the worst coffee in the world.

Starbucks (store or bottled in the grocery store) is a joke hence in
keeping with this subthread. I drink MJB made at home. Tastes good hot
or cold. I'm more of a breakfast (smooth) blend guy. I also don't like
what the company buys for their employees so I brought a coffee maker
into work. When I brew some MJB with its aroma wafting across the
cubicles, moochers just happen to wander by trying to get a free cup but
they're willing to pay a quarter versus having to drink the free swill
at work.

Back to Wolf's quip, where can you buy a cup of prepared coffee along
with, say, a cinnamon bun for under the $3 for a 4GB USB flash drive
that would hold the Windows 10 ISO? Since I almost never buy coffee
from restaurants, I'm not sure where would be the cheapest price but
I'll guess McDonald's. They charge $1 for a small cup. Their cinnamon
melt (whatever the hell that is) costs $1.69. So going to McDonald's
for coffee+carbPill would keep you under the $3 price tag for a cheap
4GB USB flash drive; however, in a contest to beat the cheapest flash
drive price with the cheapest coffee+carbPill, you lost on either "win".