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  #16  
Old February 4th 15, 02:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Doe
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In article , lid, Bruce Hagen
says...

"pjp" wrote in message
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Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.





I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late 2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html

That's cool!

I'm just wary of installing third-party gadgets - that was MS's idea in
'deprecated' them eh?

How can you know it's trustyworthy?

--
Duncan.
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  #17  
Old February 4th 15, 02:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bruce Hagen[_2_]
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"Dave Doe" wrote in message
...
In article , lid, Bruce Hagen
says...

"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.





I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html

That's cool!

I'm just wary of installing third-party gadgets - that was MS's idea in
'deprecated' them eh?

How can you know it's trustyworthy?




Well, I've had it for 5+ years with no issue and WOT gives the site a good
rating.

WOT (Web Of Trust)
http://www.mywot.com/

--

~Bruce

  #18  
Old February 4th 15, 02:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.





I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late 2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?

--
A
  #19  
Old February 4th 15, 03:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bruce Hagen[_2_]
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"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.





I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I say
Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or anywhere
except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version installed, do
you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it looks like it
would install.
--

~Bruce

  #20  
Old February 4th 15, 03:49 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it
looks like it would install.


Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.

--
A
  #21  
Old February 4th 15, 03:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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A wrote:
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.





I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?


The only link I see is "Download and Install", with a red background.
Using the "wrong browser" here, there is no red color and no button,
but that area on the screen is still sensitive (if I clicked it).

I got this:

http://win7gadgets.com/media/g/g0858...adgets-com.zip

It's a ZIP file. 3,651,270 bytes. (Which is HUGE for a function like this.)
I'm always naturally suspicious of huge downloads, because

1) How can someone afford to give away a download like that ?
2) Is there Adware inside ? It's big enough to have a "payload".
3) Virustotal scan is clean. Not a surprise. Adware would
not necessarily be flagged that way.

When you unzip the ZIP file, you get

pro-weather-gadget.gadget

And I expect the extension on the end of the file will
be part of the magic. Right-click on the unzipped .gadget
file and see what options are offered.

If you use 7ZIP and dig down further (do an "Open Inside" on
the .gadget extension file)...

There is a metric ton of icons and image files.

The Javascript payload is 130KB. That's good.

One Readme file is in English, Ukrainian, Russian, and
gives credit to a "ProMethusPrime".

Localization for the installation also provides those three languages.
So the gadget can display text in those three.

One Readme file gives installation instructions, which are
still not all that clear.

Installation:
You can install to one of three places
%systemdrive%\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\Shared Gadgets (recommended)
%systemdrive%\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets (second recommendation)
%systemdrive%\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Microsoft \Windows Sidebar\Gadgets (third recommendation)

If installing to the first or second option above, you (as Administrator)
need yo give WRITE access to the group 'Users' to the Shared Gadgets and/or
Gadgets directory

Error logging and Persistent settings require this (Gadget needs these to
perform, may change in next version)

Install supplied fonts to the %SystemRoot%\Fonts directory

So if right-clicking on "pro-weather-gadget.gadget"
isn't giving you a useful option, you now have pointers
to folders on the computer containing existing gadgets.

If you extract the "js" folder, that has the Javascript to
run the gadget. This would be where your security exposure would
be hiding. To the author's credit, no attempt is made to
obfuscate the code. You can open each file in Notepad and
take a look. Lots of Javascript sent to your browser, along
with web pages, is a thick unreadable unpunctuated mess,
designed so you cannot follow what the code is doing.
"Commercial" javascript is a model of compression,
in that all semblance to source code is gone. Whereas
the weather gadget code you can actually read it.

I'm not going to install this. Too much work.

(If I seriously needed a weather gadget, I would set up a
VM with Win7 SP1 in it and test it there... You can
run an OS unactivated long enough, to do a test if
you want.)

Continue on with your 7ZIP "pick it apart" analysis.

The .xml files are supposed to be manifests, but it's not
clear, looking through the files on this one, whether
that's sufficient for a Windows installer to automate
the whole process or not. Or just have to save the
entire gadget or something, to a folder. The gadget seems
to use the HTML files for the main function, the "js" and
"css" for web rendering. And these are similar to the
technologies that App Store metro tile designers use now.
(No more C, C#, C++)

*******

For more inspiration, you can see someone working on their
own "Hello World" .gadget here.

https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...ll-not-install

Paul
  #22  
Old February 4th 15, 04:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bruce Hagen[_2_]
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"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it
looks like it would install.


Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.



It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top left).
--

~Bruce


  #23  
Old February 4th 15, 04:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Posts: 289
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it
looks like it would install.


Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.



It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top left).


It didn't go there. It went nowhere. I did a search and it can only find
where I downloaded it. I did get another one that did install called
Weather Meter by Add Gadgets IT. When I installed it, it appeared on the
desktop and in the Gadgets file. I, of course, scanned it with Avast,
SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes before installing.

--
A
  #24  
Old February 4th 15, 04:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bruce Hagen[_2_]
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"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it
looks like it would install.

Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.



It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top left).


It didn't go there. It went nowhere. I did a search and it can only find
where I downloaded it. I did get another one that did install called
Weather Meter by Add Gadgets IT. When I installed it, it appeared on the
desktop and in the Gadgets file. I, of course, scanned it with Avast,
SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes before installing.



Open the Gadgets. Click on the down-arrow below the X at the top right. Is
ProMethus listed? Clock on it. If it's not listed, I don't know where it
wound up.
--

~Bruce


  #25  
Old February 4th 15, 04:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to
install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe
but it
looks like it would install.

Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.


It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top left).


It didn't go there. It went nowhere. I did a search and it can only
find where I downloaded it. I did get another one that did install
called Weather Meter by Add Gadgets IT. When I installed it, it
appeared on the desktop and in the Gadgets file. I, of course, scanned
it with Avast, SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes before installing.



Open the Gadgets. Click on the down-arrow below the X at the top right.
Is ProMethus listed? Clock on it. If it's not listed, I don't know where
it wound up.


It's not listed as a new gadget, if that's what you mean.

--
A
  #26  
Old February 4th 15, 04:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bruce Hagen[_2_]
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Posts: 985
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"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in
late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to
install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe
but it
looks like it would install.

Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.


It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top
left).

It didn't go there. It went nowhere. I did a search and it can only
find where I downloaded it. I did get another one that did install
called Weather Meter by Add Gadgets IT. When I installed it, it
appeared on the desktop and in the Gadgets file. I, of course, scanned
it with Avast, SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes before installing.



Open the Gadgets. Click on the down-arrow below the X at the top right.
Is ProMethus listed? Clock on it. If it's not listed, I don't know where
it wound up.


It's not listed as a new gadget, if that's what you mean.




There should be a list of all your gadgets. If it isn't listed, it didn't
install properly. Try rebooting if you haven't.
--

~Bruce

  #27  
Old February 4th 15, 04:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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FredW wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:49:10 +0100, A wrote:
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...

Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't seem able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.

I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html

I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?

It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe but it
looks like it would install.


Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.



Drag the extracted file to your desktop.
Double click on the icon and the gadget will be really installed.
It will now appear with the other gadgets.
(I had to reinvent this procedure myself.)



Tried that too. Didn't work.

--
A
  #28  
Old February 4th 15, 04:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Posts: 289
Default Weather Gadget

Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"A" wrote in message ...
Bruce Hagen wrote:
"pjp" wrote in message
...


Anyone else's weather gadget seem to not be updating? Doesn't
seem
able
to connect to server, all else internet wise is fine.




I never liked the built-in weather gadget and installed this in
late
2009.

Pro Weather Gadget
http://win7gadgets.com/weather/pro_weather_gadget.html


I can't seem to install it. I tried both "download and install" and
"download". When I double click on it, it asks if I want to
install, I
say Install and nothing happens. It's not in the Gadgets file or
anywhere except where I downloaded it. How did you do it?



It was a long time ago, but I saved the zip file, extracted it and
installed. When I try it now, it says I already have a version
installed, do you want to replace it. I stopped there to be safe
but it
looks like it would install.

Once installed, did it appear somewhere? I have installed it but it
doesn't show up anywhere.


It's with the other gadgets. Do you have more than one page? (Top
left).

It didn't go there. It went nowhere. I did a search and it can only
find where I downloaded it. I did get another one that did install
called Weather Meter by Add Gadgets IT. When I installed it, it
appeared on the desktop and in the Gadgets file. I, of course, scanned
it with Avast, SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes before installing.



Open the Gadgets. Click on the down-arrow below the X at the top right.
Is ProMethus listed? Clock on it. If it's not listed, I don't know where
it wound up.


It's not listed as a new gadget, if that's what you mean.




There should be a list of all your gadgets. If it isn't listed, it
didn't install properly. Try rebooting if you haven't.


Rebooting put it on the desktop but it still wouldn't install. I'm happy
with Weather Meter.

--
A
  #29  
Old February 4th 15, 04:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:33:31 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:


I'm just wary of installing third-party gadgets - that was MS's idea in
'deprecated' them eh?

How can you know it's trustyworthy?



You really can't know any third-party program is trustworthy--gadget
or not. I don't worry about gadgets in particular.

  #30  
Old February 4th 15, 05:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Posts: 289
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FredW wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:53:26 +0100, A wrote:
FredW wrote:

Drag the extracted file to your desktop.
Double click on the icon and the gadget will be really installed.
It will now appear with the other gadgets.
(I had to reinvent this procedure myself.)


Tried that too. Didn't work.


Did you drag the *.gadget file to the desktop?
It worked for me.


Yes, didn't work.

--
A
 




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