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Old July 5th 15, 02:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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Win8.1 pro

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.

How elaborate can these be, because I'm having trouble with....

cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
cameramodel:MAVICA OR
cameramodelHP Scanjet djf300) OR
cameramodel:FinePixS2Pro OR
cameramodel:EXFH20 OR
cameramodel:E4300 OR
cameramodel:E-3 OR
cameramodel:E-5 OR
cameramodel:K810i OR
cameramodelCoolPix S8100) OR
cameramodel:A777 OR
cameramodel:5130c-2 OR
cameramodel2Xs OR
cameramodeliPhone 5c) OR
cameramodel:E-P1 OR
cameramodelC3320

Peter
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Old July 5th 15, 03:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 pro

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.

How elaborate can these be, because I'm having trouble with....

cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
cameramodel:MAVICA OR
cameramodelHP Scanjet djf300) OR
cameramodel:FinePixS2Pro OR
cameramodel:EXFH20 OR
cameramodel:E4300 OR
cameramodel:E-3 OR
cameramodel:E-5 OR
cameramodel:K810i OR
cameramodelCoolPix S8100) OR
cameramodel:A777 OR
cameramodel:5130c-2 OR
cameramodel2Xs OR
cameramodeliPhone 5c) OR
cameramodel:E-P1 OR
cameramodelC3320

Peter


https://web.archive.org/web/20110101.../advquery.mspx

I don't have any materials here to test these compound terms, so
just try them out and see what happens. I removed a few words,
to try to make the search statement a bit shorter.

cameramodelSP590UZ OR D2X OR MAVICA OR djf300 OR FinePixS2Pro OR EXFH20 OR E4300 OR E-3 OR E-5 OR K810i OR S8100 OR A777 OR 5130c-2 OR D2Xs OR 5c OR E-P1 OR DC3320)

cameramodelSP590UZ, D2X, MAVICA, djf300, FinePixS2Pro, EXFH20, E4300, E-3, E-5, K810i, S8100, A777, 5130c-2, D2Xs, 5c, E-P1, DC3320)

Another possibility, is to generate a list of all cameras, and use a negated search.
In other words, if there are only two cameras not in your list, look from them
not to be present, to make your selection. This is not nearly as good
a way to search, as your suggestion above, and I'd be trying this only
if I was desperate. Because now I need to generate a list of all
cameras in the population.

AND NOT cameramodelLand or disposable)

Just a guess,
Paul
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Old July 5th 15, 01:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy Burns[_3_]
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Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR


Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work


I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.


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Old July 5th 15, 11:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 22:06:35 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 pro

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.

How elaborate can these be, because I'm having trouble with....

cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
cameramodel:MAVICA OR
cameramodelHP Scanjet djf300) OR
cameramodel:FinePixS2Pro OR
cameramodel:EXFH20 OR
cameramodel:E4300 OR
cameramodel:E-3 OR
cameramodel:E-5 OR
cameramodel:K810i OR
cameramodelCoolPix S8100) OR
cameramodel:A777 OR
cameramodel:5130c-2 OR
cameramodel2Xs OR
cameramodeliPhone 5c) OR
cameramodel:E-P1 OR
cameramodelC3320

Peter


https://web.archive.org/web/20110101.../advquery.mspx

I don't have any materials here to test these compound terms, so
just try them out and see what happens. I removed a few words,
to try to make the search statement a bit shorter.

cameramodelSP590UZ OR D2X OR MAVICA OR djf300 OR FinePixS2Pro OR EXFH20 OR E4300 OR E-3 OR E-5 OR K810i OR S8100 OR A777 OR 5130c-2 OR D2Xs OR 5c OR E-P1 OR DC3320)

cameramodelSP590UZ, D2X, MAVICA, djf300, FinePixS2Pro, EXFH20, E4300, E-3, E-5, K810i, S8100, A777, 5130c-2, D2Xs, 5c, E-P1, DC3320)

Another possibility, is to generate a list of all cameras, and use a negated search.
In other words, if there are only two cameras not in your list, look from them
not to be present, to make your selection. This is not nearly as good
a way to search, as your suggestion above, and I'd be trying this only
if I was desperate. Because now I need to generate a list of all
cameras in the population.

AND NOT cameramodelLand or disposable)

Just a guess,
Paul


Thanks, I found that putting each in quotes seems to work. I
shortened the search, so.......

cameramodel"SP590UZ" OR "D2X" OR "MAVICA" OR "djf300" OR
"FinePixS2Pro" OR "EXFH20" OR "E4300" OR "E-3" OR "E-5)".

I got 800 hits from about 200000 images. (most people use Canon
cameras.)
  #5  
Old July 5th 15, 11:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-05 8:35 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR

Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work


I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...


Oops, yes, you're right.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.


FWIW, I haven't had to search for a file in a long time. That's because
I have carefully constructed folder-trees, and always put stuff where it
belongs. I also name (and rename downloaded) files so that they will
alphabetise in groups, easy to spot in Details View. And I avoid use of
"libraries" as much as possible.

Have a good day,


Is it possible to select non-contiguous folders to be searched? Say
one folder on HDD1 & a folder on HDD2?
  #6  
Old July 6th 15, 01:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-05 8:35 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work
I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...

Oops, yes, you're right.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.

FWIW, I haven't had to search for a file in a long time. That's because
I have carefully constructed folder-trees, and always put stuff where it
belongs. I also name (and rename downloaded) files so that they will
alphabetise in groups, easy to spot in Details View. And I avoid use of
"libraries" as much as possible.

Have a good day,


Is it possible to select non-contiguous folders to be searched? Say
one folder on HDD1 & a folder on HDD2?


Create a Library ? :-)

A Library is an arbitrary grouping of directories. It allows
you to logically combine things. You can create a brand new
Library, using some tutorial on the web.

And keep saying to yourself "I am a power user... I can do this..."
while reading this page :-)

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Paul
  #7  
Old July 6th 15, 03:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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Default Search-string limit?

On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:04:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-05 8:35 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work
I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...
Oops, yes, you're right.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.
FWIW, I haven't had to search for a file in a long time. That's because
I have carefully constructed folder-trees, and always put stuff where it
belongs. I also name (and rename downloaded) files so that they will
alphabetise in groups, easy to spot in Details View. And I avoid use of
"libraries" as much as possible.

Have a good day,


Is it possible to select non-contiguous folders to be searched? Say
one folder on HDD1 & a folder on HDD2?


Create a Library ? :-)

A Library is an arbitrary grouping of directories. It allows
you to logically combine things. You can create a brand new
Library, using some tutorial on the web.

And keep saying to yourself "I am a power user... I can do this..."
while reading this page :-)

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Paul


Thank you kindly, but this will take deep study, and I'm already
psyching myself up for the Windows-10 release at the end of the month.
This will take all my resolve.
I'll conquer the library thing thereafter.
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Old July 6th 15, 04:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:04:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-05 8:35 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work
I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...
Oops, yes, you're right.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.
FWIW, I haven't had to search for a file in a long time. That's because
I have carefully constructed folder-trees, and always put stuff where it
belongs. I also name (and rename downloaded) files so that they will
alphabetise in groups, easy to spot in Details View. And I avoid use of
"libraries" as much as possible.

Have a good day,
Is it possible to select non-contiguous folders to be searched? Say
one folder on HDD1 & a folder on HDD2?

Create a Library ? :-)

A Library is an arbitrary grouping of directories. It allows
you to logically combine things. You can create a brand new
Library, using some tutorial on the web.

And keep saying to yourself "I am a power user... I can do this..."
while reading this page :-)

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Paul


Thank you kindly, but this will take deep study, and I'm already
psyching myself up for the Windows-10 release at the end of the month.
This will take all my resolve.
I'll conquer the library thing thereafter.


Actually, all your photos should be in the Photo library now.
Have you checked the setup of it ?

Other than that, I'm surprised the Indexing Options control
panel, doesn't allow you to scan the entire computer, and
find every instance of cameramodel on the machine. Set
the File Explorer window to My PC, and search from there ?
That ought to cover it, and once an index is built, the
search results should come back fast.

I notice in Windows 10, the Indexing Options is still
the same. I was hoping there'd be some way to make
it better.

Paul
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Old July 11th 15, 04:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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Default Search-string limit?

On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:04:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:00:26 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-05 8:35 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

I'm doing image searches with Windows Explorer.
cameramodel:SP590UZ OR
cameramodel2X OR
Searches are fussy. "cameramodel" won't work
I think the O/P is referring to Windows Search, not internet search
engines ...
Oops, yes, you're right.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa965711%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Personally, I got fed-up of MS changing the search syntax too
frequently, so now I use FileLocatorPro.
FWIW, I haven't had to search for a file in a long time. That's because
I have carefully constructed folder-trees, and always put stuff where it
belongs. I also name (and rename downloaded) files so that they will
alphabetise in groups, easy to spot in Details View. And I avoid use of
"libraries" as much as possible.

Have a good day,


Is it possible to select non-contiguous folders to be searched? Say
one folder on HDD1 & a folder on HDD2?


Create a Library ? :-)

A Library is an arbitrary grouping of directories. It allows
you to logically combine things. You can create a brand new
Library, using some tutorial on the web.

And keep saying to yourself "I am a power user... I can do this..."
while reading this page :-)

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Paul


Yes, thanks. I've conquered the complexities of 'libraries' and they
seem to be just grouped shortcuts.
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Old July 13th 15, 12:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Peter Jason
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 09:16:00 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-07-10 11:18 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
[...]
Yes, thanks. I've conquered the complexities of 'libraries' and they
seem to be just grouped shortcuts.


Er, not quite. What put me off them was that there were reports of
losing actual files when deleting a library item. It seems that the
lowest level of a folder tree within a library is not shortcuts, but the
actual filenames. If Libraries were purely grouped shortcuts, then that
would not happen. AFAIK, this bug has not been fixed, but since I don't
use Libraries, I don't know for sure.


Then if I just make shortcuts to desired destinations, could these
shortcuts be made the library items? Presumably this would prevent
accidental erasure of the files themselves?



So be careful.

IMO, MS missed an opportunity with Libraries. What I'd like to see is
using Search to generate folders full of shortcuts. _That_ would be
extremely useful. As it is, "[to] create a library, name it something
(perhaps, "Family Photos"), and then tell Windows which far-flung
folders your new library should include." I don't have "far-flung
folders", they're all nicely grouped in usefully labelled folder trees.

Eg, for images I have Camera -- Year -- Month --
SomeEvent/SomeTopic/Etc. Many events repeat year to year. So it would be
nice for the Library to generate a folder for SomeEvent, creating both
the shortcuts to the folders (as at present) and also the shortcuts to
the images inside them. And if I happen to Copy or Move shortcut(s) from
one folder to another, Library should automagically Copy or Move the
actual file(s) in the actual folder(s). But Delete should work _only_ on
the shortcuts, never on the actual files. There is an "Arrange by"
feature, but AFAICT, it merely sorts the entries.

See?

I do sometimes use Documents etc as temporary storage, eg, for any
content that I'll discard after reading.

 




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