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Old November 7th 15, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Cy Burnot
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I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.

No joy.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?

Thanks.

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Old November 7th 15, 09:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Cy Burnot wrote:

I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.


Freeware or payware version of Reflect? The freeware version does not
do "bare metal" restores.

Did you save a backup image of the old HDD (and restored it to the new
HDD), or did you do a clone? I'm not sure there would be much of a
difference other than afterward you would still have the backup image
versus a clone job which is immediate with not external backup image
file.

Is the new HDD inside the same box as the old HDD? Or is the new HDD
inside a different box?

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.


Does "swap out" mean the new HDD was connected to the same SATA port as
the old HDD? Or did you disconnect the old HDD from its mobo SATA port
and continue using the other mobo SATA port for the new HDD? Connect
the new SATA HDD to the same mobo SATA port that the old SATA HDD was
connected.

Boot config data is defined by the device. Moving a device to a
different port gives it a different enumeration. Devices are identified
by their physical location in the boot data.

When you want to use an HDD to which was restored an image or a cloned
drive in place of the original, plug it into the same port as the
original. BIOS/UEFI settings might let you alter which port is used
first for physical enumeration is altered to look like it was before but
just plugging the new HDD into the old HDD's SATA port won't require
changing physical device enumeration.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.


You sure that isn't the Windows 8 recovery partition? Could be that is
the factory image partition; i.e., where the restore image is saved.
Some computers come with a hidden partition where is the restore image
or a custom setup program to restore the OS partition back to factory-
time state. When you install Win7 or Win8, the default (when there are
no partitions defined except maybe the hidden factory image partition)
is to create 2 partitions: a small OS recovery partition and the larger
OS partition. The trick that I remember to get Win7/8 installed in 1
partition is to create a partition and have the Windows installer reuse
that one. The recovery tools for the OS are stored in a separate
partition so they will still be available in case the OS partition's
file system or files get corrupted or deleted. The OS recovery
partition is hidden: no drive letter assigned.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-de...-in-windows-8/
http://www.howtogeek.com/139710/remo...l-of-your-hdd/

The recovery partition (installed by Windows) is 100 MB in size. The
factory restore partition will be larger and its size depends on how big
is the restore image.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?


Maybe you shouldn't. What is the size of that partition? What are the
volume labels reported for the other partitions (with or without volume
labels)?
  #3  
Old November 8th 15, 12:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default Macrium Reflect v6 Problem

Cy Burnot wrote:
I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.

No joy.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?

Thanks.


You don't image, you "clone".

Imaging to me, implies you were very selective
about the partitions you copied.

You forgot an important partition. Probably
some part of the boot chain.

Cloning copies all the partitions.

http://knowledgebase.macrium.com/dis...Cloning+a+disk

The "Cloned Partition Properties", allows resizing partitions
so a large hard drive fits on a smaller SSD. This is a
way to remove unused space from a partition. If the large hard
drive is "full", then obviously you're not allowed to shrink it
smaller than the amount of user data stored on it. It's only
useful if a 20GB OS partition is on a 1TB partition, and you
need to fit it on a new 100GB SSD. In which case, the 20GB OS
will fit within the confines of a 100GB SSD just fine.

Paul
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Old November 8th 15, 01:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Cy Burnot
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Paul wrote on 11/7/2015 6:04 PM:
Cy Burnot wrote:
I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.

No joy.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?

Thanks.


You don't image, you "clone".


Well, I tried to clone it but apparently that HD was damaged. Running
CHKDSK later revealed "disk read error c0000185", so I made an image to
a 3rd HD.

You forgot an important partition. Probably
some part of the boot chain.


Nope. They were all there.

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Old November 8th 15, 01:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Cy Burnot
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VanguardLH wrote on 11/7/2015 3:22 PM:
Cy Burnot wrote:

I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.


Freeware or payware version of Reflect? The freeware version does not
do "bare metal" restores.


FREE.

Did you save a backup image of the old HDD (and restored it to the new
HDD), or did you do a clone? I'm not sure there would be much of a
difference other than afterward you would still have the backup image
versus a clone job which is immediate with not external backup image
file.


Backup image to a 3rd HD.

Is the new HDD inside the same box as the old HDD? Or is the new HDD
inside a different box?


Same box. Removed old HD. Replaced it with the new one.

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.


Does "swap out" mean the new HDD was connected to the same SATA port as
the old HDD? Or did you disconnect the old HDD from its mobo SATA port
and continue using the other mobo SATA port for the new HDD? Connect
the new SATA HDD to the same mobo SATA port that the old SATA HDD was
connected.


Removed old HD. Replaced it with the new one. Same port as the old one.

When you want to use an HDD to which was restored an image or a cloned
drive in place of the original, plug it into the same port as the
original.


Did that.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.


You sure that isn't the Windows 8 recovery partition?


Absolutely sure!

Could be that is
the factory image partition; i.e., where the restore image is saved.
Some computers come with a hidden partition where is the restore image
or a custom setup program to restore the OS partition back to factory-
time state. When you install Win7 or Win8, the default (when there are
no partitions defined except maybe the hidden factory image partition)
is to create 2 partitions: a small OS recovery partition and the larger
OS partition. The trick that I remember to get Win7/8 installed in 1
partition is to create a partition and have the Windows installer reuse
that one. The recovery tools for the OS are stored in a separate
partition so they will still be available in case the OS partition's
file system or files get corrupted or deleted. The OS recovery
partition is hidden: no drive letter assigned.


I also have several expected letterless partitions.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-de...-in-windows-8/
http://www.howtogeek.com/139710/remo...l-of-your-hdd/

The recovery partition (installed by Windows) is 100 MB in size. The
factory restore partition will be larger and its size depends on how big
is the restore image.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?


Maybe you shouldn't. What is the size of that partition? What are the
volume labels reported for the other partitions (with or without volume
labels)?


To make a long story short, I played with Reflect and eventually that
partition became C: and the computer booted. I didn't write down what I
did and my memory is no longer good enough to recall what I did.

I did a couple of shutdown-startups and a couple of restarts just to
make sure. Then I made an image of the new HD -- the whole thing.

Next is learning about differential backups ("free" doesn't do incremental).

Thanks for your patience.
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Old November 8th 15, 05:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 14:22:10 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Cy Burnot wrote:

I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new
hard drive.


Freeware or payware version of Reflect? The freeware version does not
do "bare metal" restores.

The free version does indeed restore to a new replacement drive (or any
other for that matter) of same size or larger.
Since it's not clear what the op is doing I can't comment on what might
be wrong.
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Old November 9th 15, 01:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Dave C wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Cy Burnot wrote:

I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new
hard drive.


Freeware or payware version of Reflect? The freeware version does
not do "bare metal" restores.


The free version does indeed restore to a new replacement drive (or
any other for that matter) of same size or larger.


Yep, in the SAME computer. That is not a bare metal restore which
includes drivers to restore to *different* computer hardware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare-metal_restore

The freeware version will do full and differential image backups and
cloning. Bare metal restore requires the payware version.
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Old November 9th 15, 07:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 18:33:45 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

That is not a bare metal restore which includes drivers to restore
to *different* computer hardware.


In other words a fresh install?
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Old November 9th 15, 08:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Paul wrote on 11/7/2015 6:04 PM:
Cy Burnot wrote:
I created an image of my wife's hard drive and restored it to a new hard
drive.

I swapped out the old HD and of course it wouldn't boot, so I booted
from the Reflect rescue disk and selected the option to fix windows boot
issues.

No joy.

I selected the view that shows all the HD partitions and I got what I
expected with one exception.

Partition 5, Windows8_OS did not have a drive letter. (Obviously, it has
to be C:.) I ran Macrium's checker and it reported no errors.

How do I assign a drive letter to this partition?

Thanks.


You don't image, you "clone".

Imaging to me, implies you were very selective
about the partitions you copied.

You forgot an important partition. Probably
some part of the boot chain.

Cloning copies all the partitions.

http://knowledgebase.macrium.com/dis...Cloning+a+disk

The "Cloned Partition Properties", allows resizing partitions
so a large hard drive fits on a smaller SSD. This is a
way to remove unused space from a partition. If the large hard
drive is "full", then obviously you're not allowed to shrink it
smaller than the amount of user data stored on it. It's only
useful if a 20GB OS partition is on a 1TB partition, and you
need to fit it on a new 100GB SSD. In which case, the 20GB OS
will fit within the confines of a 100GB SSD just fine.

Paul

Just so I'm sure, an image of the entire disk, not selected partitions, will restore properly with the free version?
If not, I'm wasting my time.


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Old November 9th 15, 09:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:04:05 +0000, mechanic wrote:

On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 18:33:45 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

That is not a bare metal restore which includes drivers to restore
to *different* computer hardware.


In other words a fresh install?


A bare metal restore is completely different from a fresh install.

With a bare metal restore, you take a snapshot (image or clone) from a
working system, complete with installed applications and user settings, and
you restore it onto a different system. That's not as simple or
straightforward as it might seem, so it's no wonder that many backup
programs don't offer it as a feature.

A fresh install is a new installation from Windows media, so there won't be
any existing user-installed applications or settings and you'll have to do
all of that as a separate follow-on step.

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Old November 9th 15, 10:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Cy Burnot
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Big Al wrote on 11/9/2015 2:13 PM:
Just so I'm sure, an image of the entire disk, not selected partitions, will restore properly with the free version?


I just did it.
 




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