If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel.
I'm starting to download it now. -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
I have 10166 installed and running
"Brian Gregory" wrote in message ... fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel. I'm starting to download it now.have -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
On 10/07/2015 02:43, Brian Gregory wrote:
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel. I'm starting to download it now. This time it seems to be downloading it with a single TCP connection which is nice. Last time it seemed to open up over a dozen TCP connections, mostly to the same server and max them all out and more or less prevented anything else using my internet connection. I couldn't even stream a 128k MP3 stream at the same time. But so far this time it's okay. -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
In message , Dicky
writes I have 10166 installed and running Yes, I have it installed. The scroll bars are still broken. One Drive still wants me to log in on starting, but now has errors on the "script on this page". MySQL is still broken. W10 hung on first startup. I've given up on the testing I was hoping to do with audio interfaces. The dive to disaster still looks to be on course. I was hoping for better things. -- Bill |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:07:03 +0100, Bill wrote:
In message , Dicky writes I have 10166 installed and running Yes, I have it installed. The scroll bars are still broken. One Drive still wants me to log in on starting, but now has errors on the "script on this page". MySQL is still broken. W10 hung on first startup. I've given up on the testing I was hoping to do with audio interfaces. The dive to disaster still looks to be on course. I was hoping for better things. Seems to be running fine hare and the scroll bars are working fine. -- Geordie Lord bless Thy chosen in this place, For here thou has a chosen race |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
In message , Geordie
writes Seems to be running fine hare and the scroll bars are working fine. So the vertical scroll bars don't disappear while you are reading the page and you don't have to wiggle the mouse to be able to scroll down to the next page? They do on 3 machines here, and I haven't found any setting to remove the fault. -- Bill |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
On 10/07/2015 11:44, Bill wrote:
In message , Geordie writes Seems to be running fine hare and the scroll bars are working fine. So the vertical scroll bars don't disappear while you are reading the page and you don't have to wiggle the mouse to be able to scroll down to the next page? They do on 3 machines here, and I haven't found any setting to remove the fault. In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:44:58 +0100, Bill wrote:
In message , Geordie writes Seems to be running fine hare and the scroll bars are working fine. So the vertical scroll bars don't disappear while you are reading the page and you don't have to wiggle the mouse to be able to scroll down to the next page? No, they do not disappear. They do on 3 machines here, and I haven't found any setting to remove the fault. Sorry, I can't help you with that I'm afraid. -- Geordie Lord bless Thy chosen in this place, For here thou has a chosen race |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
In message , Brian
Gregory writes In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? "All Apps" in the start menu. IE Edge or whatever it's called today Most of the "Settings" eg Notifications and actions etc. etc. In other words almost any Microsoft written software. Other software eg PaleMoon (like Firefox) and LibreOffice Writer has scroll bars that remain. The way I work is that I put the cursor low down on the scroll bar and just click to page down. This is what doesn't work when the scroll bars have disappeared. -- Bill |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
Bill wrote:
In message , Brian Gregory writes In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? "All Apps" in the start menu. IE Edge or whatever it's called today Most of the "Settings" eg Notifications and actions etc. etc. In other words almost any Microsoft written software. Other software eg PaleMoon (like Firefox) and LibreOffice Writer has scroll bars that remain. The way I work is that I put the cursor low down on the scroll bar and just click to page down. This is what doesn't work when the scroll bars have disappeared. My guess is, you've installed some preliminary release, and have upgrade installed these things, one on top of the other. If your plan is to "OS test" now, for your audio work, you should be doing a clean install with a recent DVD image. At the moment, that would be 10162 from the slow ring. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504 The purpose of doing a clean install, is to avoid inheriting "bad mojo" from a previous release. Note that, the initial OS preparation time will be lower, with a clean install. The Windows Defender tends to scan Windows.old as well as Windows, if you upgrade install. It's one of the reasons I usually use Cleanmgr.exe as soon as the OS is responsive, to remove the Windows.old from Win10 TP installation. On a real OS installation, I would not be in quite as much of a rush. But with this prototype stuff, I try to clean up as soon as possible. For audio work, you should be testing on real hardware, and not in a VM. Stick a spare disk in your audio workstation, do a clean install, then test your scroll bars. It could be, that just the automated driver installation will manage to brick the machine, before you get to do anything with it :-) Doing it this way, is a more realistic test case (of what RTM will be like). In my last OS installation, my webcam (not plugged in), the driver got reinstalled somehow, leading to looping behavior. So if you have a decent set of custom hardware cards... I would expect the OS to go nutso. Paul |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
In message , Paul writes
My guess is, you've installed some preliminary release, and have upgrade installed these things, one on top of the other. If your plan is to "OS test" now, for your audio work, you should be doing a clean install with a recent DVD image. At the moment, that would be 10162 from the slow ring. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504 The purpose of doing a clean install, is to avoid inheriting "bad mojo" from a previous release. Note that, the initial OS preparation time will be lower, with a clean install. The Windows Defender tends to scan Windows.old as well as Windows, if you upgrade install. It's one of the reasons I usually use Cleanmgr.exe as soon as the OS is responsive, to remove the Windows.old from Win10 TP installation. On a real OS installation, I would not be in quite as much of a rush. But with this prototype stuff, I try to clean up as soon as possible. For audio work, you should be testing on real hardware, and not in a VM. Stick a spare disk in your audio workstation, do a clean install, then test your scroll bars. It could be, that just the automated driver installation will manage to brick the machine, before you get to do anything with it :-) Doing it this way, is a more realistic test case (of what RTM will be like). In my last OS installation, my webcam (not plugged in), the driver got reinstalled somehow, leading to looping behavior. So if you have a decent set of custom hardware cards... I would expect the OS to go nutso. Thanks, Paul. You are the second person to have told me that recently, so now I'm copying files around the network so as to be able to rebuild the whole system on the 10162 image. The other advice was about my problems with MySQL errors. My thinking, which I did have great doubts about, was that I might simulate the real future forced upgrade system to see how it would work. Presumably there won't be new builds to the public when the software is released. Part of my copying has to be done because I can't get 10166 to burn an image without saying there are errors using the built-in Windows burn software. I have imgburn on other machines. I was only testing audio on W10 via usb interfaces, and have virtually abandoned that for now. For real audio I have the XP and Vista desktop machines plus a bunch of W7 laptops. I don't use VM's for audio or for this testing. Oh well, 66% copied so far. I'll maybe get it installed and the system rebuilt on top by tomorrow. -- Bill |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
On 10/07/2015 15:17, Bill wrote:
In message , Brian Gregory writes In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? "All Apps" in the start menu. IE Edge or whatever it's called today Most of the "Settings" eg Notifications and actions etc. etc. In other words almost any Microsoft written software. Other software eg PaleMoon (like Firefox) and LibreOffice Writer has scroll bars that remain. The way I work is that I put the cursor low down on the scroll bar and just click to page down. This is what doesn't work when the scroll bars have disappeared. It seems okay on my 64 bit Win 10 running in a VirtualBox 4.3.28 VM. I can't see any scroll bars vanishing. Weird. -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
On 10/07/2015 17:24, Paul wrote:
Bill wrote: In message , Brian Gregory writes In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? "All Apps" in the start menu. IE Edge or whatever it's called today Most of the "Settings" eg Notifications and actions etc. etc. In other words almost any Microsoft written software. Other software eg PaleMoon (like Firefox) and LibreOffice Writer has scroll bars that remain. The way I work is that I put the cursor low down on the scroll bar and just click to page down. This is what doesn't work when the scroll bars have disappeared. My guess is, you've installed some preliminary release, and have upgrade installed these things, one on top of the other. If your plan is to "OS test" now, for your audio work, you should be doing a clean install with a recent DVD image. At the moment, that would be 10162 from the slow ring. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504 The purpose of doing a clean install, is to avoid inheriting "bad mojo" from a previous release. Note that, the initial OS preparation time will be lower, with a clean install. The Windows Defender tends to scan Windows.old as well as Windows, if you upgrade install. It's one of the reasons I usually use Cleanmgr.exe as soon as the OS is responsive, to remove the Windows.old from Win10 TP installation. On a real OS installation, I would not be in quite as much of a rush. But with this prototype stuff, I try to clean up as soon as possible. For audio work, you should be testing on real hardware, and not in a VM. Stick a spare disk in your audio workstation, do a clean install, then test your scroll bars. It could be, that just the automated driver installation will manage to brick the machine, before you get to do anything with it :-) Doing it this way, is a more realistic test case (of what RTM will be like). In my last OS installation, my webcam (not plugged in), the driver got reinstalled somehow, leading to looping behavior. So if you have a decent set of custom hardware cards... I would expect the OS to go nutso. Paul FWIW my installation has been upgraded step by step from the very first public preview release (I may have missed a few builds out but not many) and the scroll bars work okay. Just one of those weird infuriating baffling things Microsoft put in to keep us awake. -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fastchannel
Brian Gregory wrote:
On 10/07/2015 17:24, Paul wrote: Bill wrote: In message , Brian Gregory writes In what program running on Win10TP are the scroll bars disappearing? "All Apps" in the start menu. IE Edge or whatever it's called today Most of the "Settings" eg Notifications and actions etc. etc. In other words almost any Microsoft written software. Other software eg PaleMoon (like Firefox) and LibreOffice Writer has scroll bars that remain. The way I work is that I put the cursor low down on the scroll bar and just click to page down. This is what doesn't work when the scroll bars have disappeared. My guess is, you've installed some preliminary release, and have upgrade installed these things, one on top of the other. If your plan is to "OS test" now, for your audio work, you should be doing a clean install with a recent DVD image. At the moment, that would be 10162 from the slow ring. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504 The purpose of doing a clean install, is to avoid inheriting "bad mojo" from a previous release. Note that, the initial OS preparation time will be lower, with a clean install. The Windows Defender tends to scan Windows.old as well as Windows, if you upgrade install. It's one of the reasons I usually use Cleanmgr.exe as soon as the OS is responsive, to remove the Windows.old from Win10 TP installation. On a real OS installation, I would not be in quite as much of a rush. But with this prototype stuff, I try to clean up as soon as possible. For audio work, you should be testing on real hardware, and not in a VM. Stick a spare disk in your audio workstation, do a clean install, then test your scroll bars. It could be, that just the automated driver installation will manage to brick the machine, before you get to do anything with it :-) Doing it this way, is a more realistic test case (of what RTM will be like). In my last OS installation, my webcam (not plugged in), the driver got reinstalled somehow, leading to looping behavior. So if you have a decent set of custom hardware cards... I would expect the OS to go nutso. Paul FWIW my installation has been upgraded step by step from the very first public preview release (I may have missed a few builds out but not many) and the scroll bars work okay. Just one of those weird infuriating baffling things Microsoft put in to keep us awake. I've read one article, about Microsoft releasing "A/B" images. Half the people get one option, half the people get the other. I changed a registry setting on mine, so I could "enjoy" the Aero decoration around the main menu. Because apparently the registry was set differently on my installation. (Mine didn't have Aero enabled, after the install was finished.) I don't know how that is implemented. Whether the OS "calls home" to request customization details, or half the people get one ISO, and half get the other ISO. Calling home seems more efficient, as then all the ISO files look identical. Paul |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
fbl_impressive Professional 10166 seems to be available on fast channel
In message , Paul writes
I've read one article, about Microsoft releasing "A/B" images. Half the people get one option, half the people get the other. I changed a registry setting on mine, so I could "enjoy" the Aero decoration around the main menu. Because apparently the registry was set differently on my installation. (Mine didn't have Aero enabled, after the install was finished.) Right, I've installed 10162 from the iso. The scroll bars disappear from under the cursor after a short delay just as they did before. I was tempted to joke that everyone else must have Parkinson's disease, affecting their mouse handling, but that would have been in bad taste. There is one improvement in that previously there was a glitch when coming out of "sleep", where I got a message about the video having recovered successfully from a failure. This no longer occurs. I lost sound with the new install, but went onto the Lenovo site and found the chipset driver, which brought this back. These test machines are all Intel based, with Intel video. One thing that might make my results dubious is that the machine has the existing W7 partition still in place and I am installing onto a separate partition for W10. I installed the iso without re-formatting the W10 partition and the new installation still has the previously installed data on the new C: drive. So for example where I had a C:\download directory previously, I still have a C:\download directory with the same data in place. I hadn't expected this, but then I usually find myself installing on a new drive. I definitely chose the "Advanced" install option - the one that says you will lose all your data. If MS are really sending out 2 versions of W10, they are misguided. I spent part of last night trying to talk a friend into how to put W7 back on his machine. We failed with that, too, but I think with a fresh brain he may be quick enough today to hit the right buttons at the right time to get the boot from DVD working. -- Bill |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|