My experience on upgrading win 8.1 to 10

I have the appropriate win 10 professional installation
DVD derived from the 10240 upgrade esd file.

I upgraded 3 computers at home without a hitch and they were
automatically activated.

I tried this on office computer which has many more programs.

After the installation I could not connect to the internet.
Network issue. Downloaded the latest windows 10 driver from
asus for the motherboard on another computer

I still could not get the internet connection.

I also could not connect to the internet with a USB adapter.

I gave up as I had limited time.

I brought the computer home and did a clean installation
windows 8.1 and used a different wireless adapter. I then
upgraded to win 10 and the wireless connection worked fine
and my system was activated.

I have reinstalled my business programs and taking the computer
back to the office.

This is on a LGA 1150 motherboard with H81 chipset bought about
a year ago.

If this is any indication of issues with upgrade of win 7 and 8.1
to windows 10 I see many failures. Microsoft is being very daring.

HS

HS wrote:
I have the appropriate win 10 professional installation
DVD derived from the 10240 upgrade esd file.

I upgraded 3 computers at home without a hitch and they were
automatically activated.

I tried this on office computer which has many more programs.

After the installation I could not connect to the internet.
Network issue. Downloaded the latest windows 10 driver from
asus for the motherboard on another computer

I still could not get the internet connection.

I also could not connect to the internet with a USB adapter.

I gave up as I had limited time.

I brought the computer home and did a clean installation
windows 8.1 and used a different wireless adapter. I then
upgraded to win 10 and the wireless connection worked fine
and my system was activated.

I have reinstalled my business programs and taking the computer
back to the office.

This is on a LGA 1150 motherboard with H81 chipset bought about
a year ago.

If this is any indication of issues with upgrade of win 7 and 8.1
to windows 10 I see many failures. Microsoft is being very daring.

HS

The free upgrade should not be offered to domain-joined
machines. Installing from the DVD, I presume the installer
logic is still checking for qualifying conditions ?

As soon as you said "I'm taking it to work", I'm going
"Uh oh". The free upgrade is not intended for enterprise
license or for machines that happen to be domain-joined.
So perhaps the upgrade should have stopped dead in
its tracks, rather than running to completion.

You probably noticed that the machine at work, did not
get the "freebie notification" in the lower right hand
corner, which is your first clue that GWX figured it out.
It sounds like the 10240 DVD doesn't have the right logic
to figure out whether an upgrade goes forward or not.

Paul

Paul wrote:

HS wrote:
I have the appropriate win 10 professional installation
DVD derived from the 10240 upgrade esd file.

I upgraded 3 computers at home without a hitch and they were
automatically activated.

I tried this on office computer which has many more programs.

After the installation I could not connect to the internet.
Network issue. Downloaded the latest windows 10 driver from
asus for the motherboard on another computer

I still could not get the internet connection.

I also could not connect to the internet with a USB adapter.

I gave up as I had limited time.

I brought the computer home and did a clean installation
windows 8.1 and used a different wireless adapter. I then
upgraded to win 10 and the wireless connection worked fine
and my system was activated.

I have reinstalled my business programs and taking the computer
back to the office.

This is on a LGA 1150 motherboard with H81 chipset bought about
a year ago.

If this is any indication of issues with upgrade of win 7 and 8.1
to windows 10 I see many failures. Microsoft is being very daring.

HS

The free upgrade should not be offered to domain-joined
machines. Installing from the DVD, I presume the installer
logic is still checking for qualifying conditions ?

As soon as you said "I'm taking it to work", I'm going
"Uh oh". The free upgrade is not intended for enterprise
license or for machines that happen to be domain-joined.
So perhaps the upgrade should have stopped dead in
its tracks, rather than running to completion.

You probably noticed that the machine at work, did not
get the "freebie notification" in the lower right hand
corner, which is your first clue that GWX figured it out.
It sounds like the 10240 DVD doesn't have the right logic
to figure out whether an upgrade goes forward or not.

Paul

He took the computer from work to home. At home, he doesn't have a
domained network so he logged under a local account to do the clean
install. When he takes the computer back to work, it is highly likely
that he will not be able to join his company's domain. He installed
Windows 10 under the wrong network environment.

VanguardLH wrote:
He installed
Windows 10 under the wrong network environment.


He installed Windows Insider Build 10240.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:01:56 -0400, HS wrote in


If this is any indication of issues with upgrade of win 7 and 8.1
to windows 10 I see many failures. Microsoft is being very daring.

IMO your upgrade experience is typical, i.e. approximately 25% of
upgrades encounter major hardware or software problems.
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On 2015-07-21 3:45 AM, . . .winston wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
He installed
Windows 10 under the wrong network environment.


He installed Windows Insider Build 10240.


I have gone back to win 8.1 and will stay there.

We have 3 desktops in my office.

1) Typing printing and doodling for my EMG lab assistant (win7)
2) My secretary with patient database - she does billing on a
cloud program. (win7)
3) A desktop at my desk (win 8.1) to doodle on the internet,
access hospital with "my portal" to review patients charts
and look at MRI images on line and transmit digital dictation
for typing to Pakistan.

I am not a business network.

I have no IT support.

HS

HS posted this via
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I have the appropriate win 10 professional installation
DVD derived from the 10240 upgrade esd file.

I upgraded 3 computers at home without a hitch and they were
automatically activated.

I tried this on office computer which has many more programs.

After the installation I could not connect to the internet.
Network issue. Downloaded the latest windows 10 driver from
asus for the motherboard on another computer

I still could not get the internet connection.

I also could not connect to the internet with a USB adapter.

I gave up as I had limited time.

I brought the computer home and did a clean installation
windows 8.1 and used a different wireless adapter. I then
upgraded to win 10 and the wireless connection worked fine
and my system was activated.

I have reinstalled my business programs and taking the computer
back to the office.

This is on a LGA 1150 motherboard with H81 chipset bought about
a year ago.

If this is any indication of issues with upgrade of win 7 and 8.1
to windows 10 I see many failures. Microsoft is being very daring.

HS

Here's the main thing: *If* anyone does experience a catastrophe from
upgrading to Windows 10... Microsoft - and its minions of "MVPs" - can
and will simply say "Well, it was FREE -- What do expect for FREE -- You
can't complain if it's FREE -- Go to Microsoft and get yer money back,
because it was FREE..." You know, the usual "It was FREE" drill.

HTH.

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Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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In message , HS
writes
I have gone back to win 8.1 and will stay there.

We have 3 desktops in my office.

1) Typing printing and doodling for my EMG lab assistant (win7)
2) My secretary with patient database - she does billing on a
cloud program. (win7)
3) A desktop at my desk (win 8.1) to doodle on the internet,
access hospital with "my portal" to review patients charts
and look at MRI images on line and transmit digital dictation
for typing to Pakistan.

I am not a business network.

I have no IT support.

All of which sounds just like a smaller version of the friends that I
help.

I have advised them to stay with Windows 7 and 8.1.

The best example is the friend who has a small office with 6 networked
machines, plus a few laptops.
She had hardware and software support that cost a lot of money. I got
involved when the hardware people said it was software and vice versa.
For the last 3 generations of machines she has had "no IT support", just
me very occasionally. I'm free at the point of delivery.

She just runs on a workgroup - no domain.

There must be millions of small organisations round the world just like
this.

I have things on my W10 test machine here that are not right. I think
automatic updates that are unspecific and may not be cancelled easily
will have to be a lot better than ones I have seen over the last few
years.
--
Bill

HS wrote:
On 2015-07-21 3:45 AM, . . .winston wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
He installed
Windows 10 under the wrong network environment.


He installed Windows Insider Build 10240.


I have gone back to win 8.1 and will stay there.

We have 3 desktops in my office.

1) Typing printing and doodling for my EMG lab assistant (win7)
2) My secretary with patient database - she does billing on a
cloud program. (win7)
3) A desktop at my desk (win 8.1) to doodle on the internet,
access hospital with "my portal" to review patients charts
and look at MRI images on line and transmit digital dictation
for typing to Pakistan.

I am not a business network.

I have no IT support.

HS

C:\Windows\Panther\setupact.log --- Look for 10240 in here, where install starts

C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\cbs.log --- Windows Update stuff

C:\Windows\INF\setupapi.* --- driver install (info not as good as in WinXP)

To find logs on a borked machine, you need
Agent Ransack. The built-in Windows search is useless
especially when you have limited time. This tool is
intended to find filenames for you.

http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

In Options, if you turn on Regex, you can find all logs with

\.log$

which says "treat the period as a literal period" and the "$ means
the word log should appear at the end of the filename". Doing
something like this, should search for the exact file (no
matches on anything except the exact file name). The caret
symbol is an anchor for the "front" of a word. This search
is anchored on both ends, for an exact match only.

^setupact\.log$

If you search for "log" without options like that, you get more
irrelevant stuff. In Windows search, "ext:log" does the
same kind of precise search (only log files show up).

*******

The problem with some of the directories, is they may be
marked hidden, and you need to find a View : Tools menu
to set file extensions to viewable, and make hidden things
visible. And then it's easier to navigate to find this
stuff.

In any case, next time an install breaks, and the
computer is still running, have a look for log
files, as I just did on my 10240 install. Normally
my cbs.log would be huge (couple hundred megabytes),
but the one above was only a few megs, implying it
started over again.

*Always* do a backup, before major surgery. It's like
washing your hands, it's that important. Generally, to
clean up a "C: mess" here, it only takes me about ten
minutes. And then nobody can tell what I was doing :-)
Keep your Macrium Reflect boot CD handy... Covers
a lot of borkage situations... Your backup tools should
support bare metal restore, for when C: has been reduced
to a puddle of goo. No need to drag the machine home,
if you're prepared for this sort of thing.

Have fun,
Paul