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Old July 23rd 17, 01:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dan Jenkins
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

In Windows 10 what's the best way to save an installer (not music and not
Windows) physical cd to an iso file?

Specifically I want to archive all my TurboTax data along with the TurboTax
software and all the TurboTax software updates on the same flash drive.

I presume that saving the TurboTax physical cdrom disc as an ISO file
(along with all the other data) is the best?

The software itself may include the state.
What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?
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Old July 23rd 17, 01:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

Dan Jenkins wrote:

In Windows 10 what's the best way to save an installer (not music and not
Windows) physical cd to an iso file?

Specifically I want to archive all my TurboTax data along with the TurboTax
software and all the TurboTax software updates on the same flash drive.

I presume that saving the TurboTax physical cdrom disc as an ISO file
(along with all the other data) is the best?

The software itself may include the state.
What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?


https://www.howtogeek.com/228886/how...mac-and-linux/
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Old July 23rd 17, 02:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 19:57:34 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?


https://www.howtogeek.com/228886/how...mac-and-linux/


That article says Windows doesn't have a way to create an ISO of the
installation of the federal and the state on the Turbotax optical disc.

The article says that an external program is needed but many have junkware.
They suggest https://ninite.com/ but I had never heard of it before today.

Then they suggest
: InfraRecorder http://infrarecorder.org/
: ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/
: CDBurnerXP https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home

Lifewire suggested "burnaway free" but said iso won't work on flash media.
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-crea...-or-cd-2625180
: Burnaway Free https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download
Microsoft .NET Framework - needed for version 3.5+ of CDBurnerXP

Searching the net, the most respected one seems to be InfraRecorder.
Or maybe Imgburn.
But not something that requires another version of dot net just to work.

Is that what you would pick?
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Old July 23rd 17, 07:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

Dan Jenkins wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 19:57:34 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?


https://www.howtogeek.com/228886/how...mac-and-linux/


That article says Windows doesn't have a way to create an ISO of the
installation of the federal and the state on the Turbotax optical disc.

The article says that an external program is needed but many have junkware.
They suggest https://ninite.com/ but I had never heard of it before today.

Then they suggest
: InfraRecorder http://infrarecorder.org/
: ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/
: CDBurnerXP https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home

Lifewire suggested "burnaway free" but said iso won't work on flash media.
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-crea...-or-cd-2625180
: Burnaway Free https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download
Microsoft .NET Framework - needed for version 3.5+ of CDBurnerXP

Searching the net, the most respected one seems to be InfraRecorder.
Or maybe Imgburn.
But not something that requires another version of dot net just to work.

Is that what you would pick?


I've used ImgBurn and Ashampoo Burning Studio 2017 (both are free).

No idea why any ISO-generating program won't work with flash media.
Create the file wherever you want and then copy the .iso file to the
flash media. You didn't ask that the ISO be bootable.
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Old July 23rd 17, 11:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

"Dan Jenkins" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 19:57:34 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the
state?


https://www.howtogeek.com/228886/how...mac-and-linux/


That article says Windows doesn't have a way to create an ISO of the
installation of the federal and the state on the Turbotax optical disc.

The article says that an external program is needed but many have
junkware.
They suggest https://ninite.com/ but I had never heard of it before today.

Then they suggest
: InfraRecorder http://infrarecorder.org/
: ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/
: CDBurnerXP https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home

Lifewire suggested "burnaway free" but said iso won't work on flash media.
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-crea...-or-cd-2625180
: Burnaway Free https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download
Microsoft .NET Framework - needed for version 3.5+ of CDBurnerXP

Searching the net, the most respected one seems to be InfraRecorder.
Or maybe Imgburn. But not something that requires another version of dot
net just to work.

Is that what you would pick?


Ninite is a respected manager for downloading & installing software. You
install it, choose from the list of free programmes, then leave it to instal
them for you.

Imgburn is probably the best for both burning CDs & DVDs as well as creating
ISO files. Just watch the install for unwanted extra programmes. I've used
it for years.

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Old July 23rd 17, 04:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

On 07/22/2017 08:14 PM, Dan Jenkins wrote:
In Windows 10 what's the best way to save an installer (not music and
not Windows) physical cd to an iso file?

Specifically I want to archive all my TurboTax data along with the
TurboTax software and all the TurboTax software updates on the same
flash drive.
I presume that saving the TurboTax physical cdrom disc as an ISO file
(along with all the other data) is the best?

The software itself may include the state.
What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?


IMHO You want both the DVD/CD AND the updates. I don't think those
updates can be archived. You only get them when you run the program
and check download state and tell it which state.
Your data is pretty straight forward. Personally I'd just do a backup
and then save the backup file. I'd also print to a PDF the entire tax
return and save it. If you can't get the program loaded for some
reason you'll at least have the printable form.

We've (family) been using Turbo Tax since the dark age and I have boxes
of unopened tax software. I've never had to reuse the older programs in
like 15 years. I think it's a waste of your time. Except for the
migration of info from one year to another, there is no reason to have
the older data.

But that' my 2cents and you know what that gets you nowadays.

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Old July 23rd 17, 05:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

On 23/07/2017 01:14, Dan Jenkins wrote:
In Windows 10 what's the best way to save an installer (not music and
not Windows) physical cd to an iso file?


In Windows 10 or in any other operating system, the best way is to make
an identical copy of the CD/DVD. This means have another blank CD/DVD
and make a copy from the original to this blank CD/DVD.

Specifically I want to archive all my TurboTax data


Just make a copy f the TurboTax data on to another removable drive. USB
flash drives are the best IMO.

along with the TurboTax software and all the TurboTax software updates
on the same flash drive.


I don't know what you mean by this but if you are talking about
installed version of TurboTax and its related updates then the only way
is to create a backup of the HD. This means you need to use external
3rd party software such "Reflect-Macrium". This software can create an
identical clone of your HD including the installed software and
operating system.


I presume that saving the TurboTax physical cdrom disc as an ISO file
(along with all the other data) is the best?


No it is not the best IMO. Physical copy of the original is the best.






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Old July 23rd 17, 08:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

Big Al wrote:

Dan Jenkins wrote:

In Windows 10 what's the best way to save an installer (not music and
not Windows) physical cd to an iso file?

Specifically I want to archive all my TurboTax data along with the
TurboTax software and all the TurboTax software updates on the same
flash drive.
I presume that saving the TurboTax physical cdrom disc as an ISO file
(along with all the other data) is the best?

The software itself may include the state.
What software creates an iso file out of the turbotax cdrom plus the state?


IMHO You want both the DVD/CD AND the updates. I don't think those
updates can be archived. You only get them when you run the program
and check download state and tell it which state.
Your data is pretty straight forward. Personally I'd just do a backup
and then save the backup file. I'd also print to a PDF the entire tax
return and save it. If you can't get the program loaded for some
reason you'll at least have the printable form.

We've (family) been using Turbo Tax since the dark age and I have boxes
of unopened tax software. I've never had to reuse the older programs in
like 15 years. I think it's a waste of your time. Except for the
migration of info from one year to another, there is no reason to have
the older data.

But that' my 2cents and you know what that gets you nowadays.


Although the IRS has moved to electronic records, they don't want those
they audit to be providing software to them. Imagine the chaos should
some user give them malware-infected software (whether accidental or
deliberate). They just want the file but which then they already have
that file. If you are audited, you need proof of documents used to
construct a filing and that wouldn't be the file you transmitted to
them.

"The IRS will request electronic accounting software backup files using
Form 4564, Information Document Request (IDR), early in the examination.
IRS will also request the administrator's username and password, as they
are needed to read most data files."
(http://tinyurl.com/y86a78uq)

Notice they want the files, not the software.

"At this time, IRS has the ability to accept and read data files from
accounting software programs that are used by most business taxpayers.
Taxpayers should consult with the examiner before submitting any type of
electronic files."

Again, they want the files. You don't need to create an ISO image to
save the files to optical media. Just burn the files to the disc. If
you want to include the software, just burn the installer files there,
too. The files for an installed copy of the tax software is of no use
to the auditor. If you need an old version of the software then you'll
have to install it, anyway, so you'll need the installer file(s). I
don't know why the OP is transfixed on creating an ISO. Just burn the
files (data and installer) to a disc for archival.

However, since old software versions may not run under later OS versions
or after some updates to the OS, the only way you can guarantee that the
software can be installed (to use those old tax files) is the archive
the computer on which the old software is installed. Most likely you
can get away with just archiving the hard disk device (as long as its
technology isn't replaced with something newer in a new host but which
is unusable by the archive device). Only companies would go to such
lengths to ensure that they could still use old software on the old
hardware/software platform. Private citizens just keep the files (both
electronic and paper copy).

The auditor will want more than the files you electronically transferred
to them. They'll also want all the documents that went into
constructing that form submission, so you still have to save the paper
documents pertinent to a tax filing but typically only for 3 years; see
http://tinyurl.com/zt2dxbq. Most folks have some file cabinet or other
physical storage location where they can store a few folders for several
years.

If the intent is for the tax payer to review their own filing, don't
just file online to the IRS. Also save a PDF copy of the form. You can
"print" to a PDF file. If the software doesn't itself support PDF
output, you can use any of the multitude of PDF printer emulator
programs (PDFCreator, BullZip PDF Printer, Foxit PDF, etc). If you were
neglectful in keeping a file copy that is independent of the software
used to produce the file, TurboTax [used to have] their Tax2PDF
converter. Looks like it is gone but there are sites that have it
archived. After some version TurboTax also automatically saved a PDF
copy of the tax return (http://tinyurl.com/y886qwql). That was probably
so long ago (perhaps the 2009 version) that you should have a .pdf file
as a copy of your tax return.

Most folks print a paper copy to file away, too. I certainly don't want
to install an old OS, update it, install the tax software, and use it to
view my old tax returns. Just slide open the file cabinet and open the
folder with my paper copies. If you did not create and save your paper
copies or "the records were lost in a fire" (yeah, uh huh), you can
request a free transcript for a year's filing from the IRS
(https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript).

If you used TurboTax Online, you can view your filings there; see
http://tinyurl.com/yaho3vwa. I've not used TurboTax. Doesn't their
e-file process require you create an account with them? If so, I would
expect a copy of your tax return to be in your account with them.

If you bought their software from their online store, you can get an old
copy of it from there (http://preview.tinyurl.com/oyrpvue).
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Old July 23rd 17, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:06:27 -0400, Big Al wrote:

IMHO You want both the DVD/CD AND the updates. I don't think those
updates can be archived. You only get them when you run the program
and check download state and tell it which state.


That's why I asked the question.
The updates are only on the computer system, not on the cd disc.
Maybe they're put in temp storage though. I don't know.
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Old July 24th 17, 12:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

Dan Jenkins wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:06:27 -0400, Big Al wrote:

IMHO You want both the DVD/CD AND the updates. I don't think those
updates can be archived. You only get them when you run the program
and check download state and tell it which state.


That's why I asked the question.
The updates are only on the computer system, not on the cd disc.
Maybe they're put in temp storage though. I don't know.


Back up the whole partition on one of these, for about $6 a disc ?

"Verbatim Blu-ray Recordable Media - BD-R - 4x - 100 GB - 10 Pack Spindle"

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16817130282

You'd need a BluRay drive with write capability. Those particular
discs have multiple layers inside (BD-XL?)

If your BluRay drive does both multiple layers and is
M-Disc capable, you can use these 100GB discs for about
$20 a disc. At one time, there were five-packs of these
discs for sale, but something has happened recently to
shift what's offered in the market. M-Disk is supposed
to have 1000 year life, but really the disc life is limited
by the stability of polycarbonate, whatever that is. So if
you were worried about the "dye" in the cheaper previous
item, this one is called "rock" by its manufacturer. The
drive needs to know it's "rock" to burn it properly.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6ZP5708849

And the M-disc is write-once - it's not a re-write technology.
Whereas regular discs offer more options. The M-disc is used
in situations where the user wants a "guarantee this is going
to last", such as if you leave your TurboTax in a time capsule
for your kids. Just make sure the storage site is not antagonistic
to polycarbonate, and then, "see you in a thousand years" or
words to that effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC

Paul
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Old July 24th 17, 02:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Best way to save TurboTax iso on the hard drive in W10?

Dan Jenkins wrote:

Big Al wrote:

IMHO You want both the DVD/CD AND the updates. I don't think those
updates can be archived. You only get them when you run the program
and check download state and tell it which state.


That's why I asked the question.
The updates are only on the computer system, not on the cd disc.
Maybe they're put in temp storage though. I don't know.


You need program updates just to view your old .tax files? Even if the
file format changed between versions, it rarely changes within a
version.
 




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