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Old March 25th 12, 04:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Are there any good, free newsservers?


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Old March 25th 12, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.

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Old March 25th 12, 06:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.

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I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were
news.eternal-september.org newsgroups.

Jeff


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Old March 25th 12, 06:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In ,
Jeff T wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were
news.eternal-september.org newsgroups.
Jeff


That is because you need to create an account at:

https://www.eternal-september.org/Re...hp?language=en

Then ensure the following:

https://www.eternal-september.org/in...p?showpage=faq

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Old March 25th 12, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , Jeff T
writes:

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.

If you want binary 'groups, Teranews costs three dollars something to
register with, and is then free for ever after.
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I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were
news.eternal-september.org newsgroups.

Jeff


That means you didn't complete the registration (or whatever they call
it) process. They provide a newsserver that gives access to their own
'groups without any registration ("I'm only seeing the e-s 'groups" is
one of the FAQs on the site). When you register, they send you an email
containing a link you have to click on (once); this whole process can
take a few hours when they're busy.

Or, you might not have set up your news client to supply username and
password (or have entered them incorrectly) when collecting; I think
that also gives access to the e-s 'groups only.

I don't know what e-s's business model is. In case it suddenly isn't, I
know lots of people who are very satisfied with NIN, alias "the Berlin
server", which though not free is something trivial like ten euros a
year.
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Old March 25th 12, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 3/25/2012 8:15 AM PT, BillW50 typed:

Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I don't think there are any free binary news servers.
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Old March 25th 12, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Ant wrote:
On 3/25/2012 8:15 AM PT, BillW50 typed:

Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I don't think there are any free binary news servers.


If and when they exist, they usually have a transfer limit per
day. Like 50MB. Some users change accounts, to try to abuse
such a privilege, which may be why even the most feeble
attempts to offer a free binary service, have to stop.

If a person has a 200GB per month internet cap, and uses
that to do nothing but USENET binaries, I think you can
see why the operator of a free service, would be in
for a very expensive Internet bill at the end of the
month. Ten thousand leeches at 200GB per, would be
a pretty serious monthly bill for the server operator.
And that's where the 50MB per day cap idea comes in.

Some of these binary servers, operate as "test servers".
Say you run a commercial service, and a new version of
INN software becomes available. You load it on the
"free" server first, and ten thousand leeches check
the server software for stability for you. That's the
justification for running a free service - it's for the
free testing it provides. If the new server software
is stable, then it can be loaded on the "paying customer"
server. And thus, the "free loader" server will be up and
down, as software changes are made.

Paul
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Old March 25th 12, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Ant" wrote:


I don't think there are any free binary news servers.


http://xsusenet.com/

Jon


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Old March 27th 12, 09:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:00 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally
mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up
all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched to
eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up once
again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I signed up and
used a different name. That lasted a month or two before I could not
connect again. That's when I gave up on them. There's no reason a
person should have to keep signing up over and over, every few months or
less.

I now use AIOE. It works well 99.9% of the time. When it goes down,
it's usually back up in several hours. There are no binaries, but I
dont think any free servers have them.

The newsgroups are nearly dead anyhow. Usenet has always been 80% of my
internet usage, and there are few newsgroups that have any activity
anymore, and most that do have been taken over by idiots. There are so
few useful newsgroups anymore that I got rid of my costly high speed
internet and went back to low cost dialup from my phone company. I
occasionally use the web for some research or general information like
an encyclopedia, but much of the web is nothing more than advertising
and crap. In my opinion, the internet has gone down the ****ter, and is
not worth paying more than a few bucks a month to have.

My guess is that all the former usenet users have either partially
abandoned the internet like myself, completely left it, or have gone to
that piece of privacy invasive Facebook, which I would not recommend to
my worst enemy. But like everything good, it all turns to **** in the
end. In the 70's the CB radio was a lot of fun, then that went the same
way as the internet is now. In another couple years the internet will
only be used by annoying assholes and businesses who charge for
everything you want to do online. Hell, around the holidays I was
looking for some clipart and every site wanted me to pay as much as $5
for one picture. Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of
clipart for free on the web. I just want to my local library, took out
a few clipart CDs and copied them to my computer for future use.

As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace
it, and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start
peering into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another
hobby.


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Old March 27th 12, 08:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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And it came to pass that richard2 delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of clipart for free on the
web. I just want to my local library, took out a few clipart CDs and
copied them to my computer for future use.


http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its
"shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download. Best to use
wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to get anything from
that part of the site en masse, since downloading everything item-by-item
is incredibly tedious.

As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace it,
and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start peering
into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another hobby.


F???book and Google (the latter especially) are cancer. They are the
virulent, malignant cancerous tumours spreading about the Internet,
engulfing and infecting every single thing they touch. They consume
resources and transform the underlying makeup of unique sites to that of
itself, if not popping up like tumours or growths on other sites (e.g. in
the form of search bars, sidebar "widgets", ads, etc.) They weaken and
compromise the integrity and stability of the sites that have been
infected by them. If there ever was one "super computer virus", either of
those sites would have to be it.

So, that's the state of the Internet these days. Pretty depressing, but I
guess that's just the way it has to be.

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Old March 29th 12, 11:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:59:17 +0100, MotoFox
confucius-say@enlightenment!to!him!lead!it!for!bangpath!foll ow!man!wise.UUCP
wrote:

http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its
"shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download. Best to use
wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to get anything from
that part of the site en masse, since downloading everything item-by-item
is incredibly tedious.


That looks like an excellent site for clipart.
But you lost me on this
wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/

I know you're saying to use this to get the whole collection, but where
do I type these commands? This looks like unix or dos codes. I went to
the site with firefox, is there someplace in FF to enter these commands?

Thanks
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Old March 29th 12, 01:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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| That looks like an excellent site for clipart.
| But you lost me on this
| wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/
|
| I know you're saying to use this to get the whole collection, but where
| do I type these commands? This looks like unix or dos codes. I went to
| the site with firefox, is there someplace in FF to enter these commands?
|

I think it's supposed to be a hip, command-liner
way of saying "scrape" the whole thing with an
auto-downloader. (Real men don't use GUIs.

I know you said that you just want these images
for your own use, but these files still may be illegal to
download. I found a "10000 photos" collection that
seems to be a match for a cheap CD collection I
bought many years ago. Besides the fact that the
photos were of terrible quality, there was a ridiculous
license that said I couldn't use the images commercially
and could only print them onto 25 cards at most. I
don't remember all the details now, but the license was
so petty that I don't doubt it also said something to
the effect that one has no right to use the images if
one didn't buy the CD directly.

I used to collect a lot of graphics and sounds from
British magaizine CDs, too. Unfortuantely, nearly all
of it was just cheap junk.


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Old March 29th 12, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 29 Mar 2012, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:59:17 +0100, MotoFox
confucius-say@enlightenment!to!him!lead!it!for!bangpath!foll ow!man!
wise.UUCP
wrote:

http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its
"shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download.
Best to use wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to
get anything from that part of the site en masse, since
downloading everything item-by-item is incredibly tedious.


That looks like an excellent site for clipart.
But you lost me on this
wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/

I know you're saying to use this to get the whole collection, but
where do I type these commands? This looks like unix or dos
codes. I went to the site with firefox, is there someplace in FF
to enter these commands?


This is the command line for the 3rd-party utility WGET. It can
retrieve files from web sites without the use of a web browser. It's a
console program, no GUI.

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm

The "advice" from Motofox is pretty useless without that important bit
of information.
 




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