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I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives.
Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. |
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Hi Dan,
I am afraid you have got to get a migration software like Acronis or CA DNA and such. "Dan Conrad" wrote: I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. |
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Once you load an OS you HAVE to reload everything, all the install files
and registry entries have to be put in place and that's what the install program does. Dan Conrad wrote: I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. |
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Dan Conrad wrote:
I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. Good luck. Start reloading now. OR... clone the old to the new. |
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"Dan Conrad" wrote in message ... I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. Dan: In another post you've indicated that you want (or at least are planning) to upgrade your processor from its present P4 2.4 GHz to possibly a 3.2 GHz one. So I would guess re the processor that this would be an expenditure of roughly $70. (If you do go that route may I suggest that you purchase a *new* processor, not a "refurbished" one. Those processors are fast disappearing from the market.) Your motherboard, while not exactly ancient, isn't exactly state-of-the-art as you know. On the other hand I've worked with quite a few of those ASUS models in years gone by and found them quite reliable. But I'm wondering whether you'll get enough "bang-for-the-buck" through the processor upgrade. I do hope you have at least 512 MB of RAM in that system. As you also probably know, your motherboard is SATA-I (not SATA-II capable). Still, you *could* purchase a SATA-II HDD and shouldn't have any problems with it since it should be backwards capable and at the most you would have to jumper the drive for the 1.5 GB/s interface. I would advise you to purchase a SATA-II model anyway so that you can at least use it in the future if & when you upgrade your system to a new one or purchase (or build) a completely new system. So I suppose you're talking about another $50 for a 250 GB or larger capacity HDD. (I see newegg is selling a 320 GB HDD for $50). So all-in-all we're talking about an expenditure of about $125. Is there any chance that you might consider a *new* off-the-shelf system (or one you could build)? I see the prices at our local Office & mass-merchandise stores for desktop PCs has dramatically fallen to the point where one can purchase a decent system for not much more than $300 or so. And they seem to be coming equipped with a substantial amount of RAM - more & more 2 GB seems to be the standard from what I've seen. And a very large-capacity HDD (SATA-II) as well. (Sans monitor & printer of course, but you have those already, right?). And a new up-to-date system will really be a substantial improvement over your current one performance-wise. Anyway, something to consider if you can swing it. Anna |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:42:25 -0500, Dan Conrad
wrote: I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. If you reinstall Windows, you also have to reinstall all your programs. You can not do what you want to do, unless, instead of reinstalling Windows, you clone it to the new hard drive. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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... "Dan Conrad" wrote in message ... I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. Dan: In another post you've indicated that you want (or at least are planning) to upgrade your processor from its present P4 2.4 GHz to possibly a 3.2 GHz one. So I would guess re the processor that this would be an expenditure of roughly $70. (If you do go that route may I suggest that you purchase a *new* processor, not a "refurbished" one. Those processors are fast disappearing from the market.) Your motherboard, while not exactly ancient, isn't exactly state-of-the-art as you know. On the other hand I've worked with quite a few of those ASUS models in years gone by and found them quite reliable. But I'm wondering whether you'll get enough "bang-for-the-buck" through the processor upgrade. I do hope you have at least 512 MB of RAM in that system. As you also probably know, your motherboard is SATA-I (not SATA-II capable). Still, you *could* purchase a SATA-II HDD and shouldn't have any problems with it since it should be backwards capable and at the most you would have to jumper the drive for the 1.5 GB/s interface. I would advise you to purchase a SATA-II model anyway so that you can at least use it in the future if & when you upgrade your system to a new one or purchase (or build) a completely new system. Anna There are some SATA-II hard drives that wont backstep to SATA-I. No jumper, no built-in nothing for backstepping. SATA-II only. Safest way to shop for SATA-I compatiblility is find one with a jumper for such on a SATA-II. The safest way to implement SATA on an awkward motherboard like this is to enbable the SATA controller in the bios with nothing connected to SATA and let XP do it's thing installing the drivers. Bear in mind that the SATA will be masked as ide anyway by the bios. ONLY one ide controller and SATA can be enabled, OR both ide controllers. Not all of them. This will increment for activation potential. If needed, he could do it at that point in time. Next step would be a simple image of the ide drive for use on the SATA drive. SATA-I is 150 MB/sec nominally. SATA-II is twice that. -- Dave |
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"Anna" wrote in message ... "Dan Conrad" wrote in message ... I have an asus P4S800D-X MB running XP SP3 with 80 G IDE hard drives. Want to switch to a 250G SATA. Once I load OS -- how do I migrate programs from old hard drive so do not have to reload everything? Thanks. Dan: In another post you've indicated that you want (or at least are planning) to upgrade your processor from its present P4 2.4 GHz to possibly a 3.2 GHz one. So I would guess re the processor that this would be an expenditure of roughly $70. (If you do go that route may I suggest that you purchase a *new* processor, not a "refurbished" one. Those processors are fast disappearing from the market.) Your motherboard, while not exactly ancient, isn't exactly state-of-the-art as you know. On the other hand I've worked with quite a few of those ASUS models in years gone by and found them quite reliable. But I'm wondering whether you'll get enough "bang-for-the-buck" through the processor upgrade. I do hope you have at least 512 MB of RAM in that system. As you also probably know, your motherboard is SATA-I (not SATA-II capable). Still, you *could* purchase a SATA-II HDD and shouldn't have any problems with it since it should be backwards capable and at the most you would have to jumper the drive for the 1.5 GB/s interface. I would advise you to purchase a SATA-II model anyway so that you can at least use it in the future if & when you upgrade your system to a new one or purchase (or build) a completely new system. Anna "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... There are some SATA-II hard drives that wont backstep to SATA-I. No jumper, no built-in nothing for backstepping. SATA-II only. Safest way to shop for SATA-I compatiblility is find one with a jumper for such on a SATA-II. The safest way to implement SATA on an awkward motherboard like this is to enbable the SATA controller in the bios with nothing connected to SATA and let XP do it's thing installing the drivers. Bear in mind that the SATA will be masked as ide anyway by the bios. ONLY one ide controller and SATA can be enabled, OR both ide controllers. Not all of them. This will increment for activation potential. If needed, he could do it at that point in time. Next step would be a simple image of the ide drive for use on the SATA drive. SATA-I is 150 MB/sec nominally. SATA-II is twice that. -- Dave Dave: Of all the major brands of consumer desktop SATA-II HDDs available here in the U. S. (Hitachi, Maxtor, Samsung, Seagate, Western Digital), which if I had to guess account for probably 90% or better of consumer purchases, only the Hitachi brand (insofar as I know) is *not* equipped with the 1.5 GB/s data interface limitation, i.e., no jumper configuration covering that. I've installed (or been involved with the installation process) of more than a hundred SATA-II (3 GB/s data interface) HDD's in systems where the motherboard supported only the SATA-I 1.5 GB/s data interface (such as the OP's motherboard). In only a small handful of cases (I would guess perhaps not more than 1/2 dozen cases) did we even find a problem involving the backwards compatibility of any SATA-II HDD that was installed with reference to the SATA data interface. When, in the rare event, we *did* encounter the problem, the SATA-II HDD was jumpered accordingly. In the case of the Hitachi, I can't recall a single instance where we ran into a problem along the lines we're discussing. In every case the Hitachi SATA-II HDD proved backwards compatible with a motherboard that supported only SATA-I. Admittedly I haven't had extensive experience installing Hitachi SATA-II HDDs in systems that had only SATA-I capability. You infer that your experience has been different. If so, (should you recall) could you point me to the specific make/model of a SATA-II HDD (and the make/model of the motherboard) where you encountered this incompatibility? Anna |
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"Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... There are some SATA-II hard drives that wont backstep to SATA-I. No jumper, no built-in nothing for backstepping. SATA-II only. Safest way to shop for SATA-I compatiblility is find one with a jumper for such on a SATA-II. The safest way to implement SATA on an awkward motherboard like this is to enbable the SATA controller in the bios with nothing connected to SATA and let XP do it's thing installing the drivers. Bear in mind that the SATA will be masked as ide anyway by the bios. ONLY one ide controller and SATA can be enabled, OR both ide controllers. Not all of them. This will increment for activation potential. If needed, he could do it at that point in time. Next step would be a simple image of the ide drive for use on the SATA drive. SATA-I is 150 MB/sec nominally. SATA-II is twice that. -- Dave "Anna" wrote in message Dave: Of all the major brands of consumer desktop SATA-II HDDs available here in the U. S. (Hitachi, Maxtor, Samsung, Seagate, Western Digital), which if I had to guess account for probably 90% or better of consumer purchases, only the Hitachi brand (insofar as I know) is *not* equipped with the 1.5 GB/s data interface limitation, i.e., no jumper configuration covering that. I've installed (or been involved with the installation process) of more than a hundred SATA-II (3 GB/s data interface) HDD's in systems where the motherboard supported only the SATA-I 1.5 GB/s data interface (such as the OP's motherboard). In only a small handful of cases (I would guess perhaps not more than 1/2 dozen cases) did we even find a problem involving the backwards compatibility of any SATA-II HDD that was installed with reference to the SATA data interface. When, in the rare event, we *did* encounter the problem, the SATA-II HDD was jumpered accordingly. In the case of the Hitachi, I can't recall a single instance where we ran into a problem along the lines we're discussing. In every case the Hitachi SATA-II HDD proved backwards compatible with a motherboard that supported only SATA-I. Admittedly I haven't had extensive experience installing Hitachi SATA-II HDDs in systems that had only SATA-I capability. You infer that your experience has been different. If so, (should you recall) could you point me to the specific make/model of a SATA-II HDD (and the make/model of the motherboard) where you encountered this incompatibility? Anna Dave: This is an addendum (actually a correction!) to my post above... I did neglect to mention that the WD line of SATA-II HDDs are also not equipped with the 1.5 GB/s interface limitation jumper configuration. I think the reason I failed to mention the WD drive as well as the Hitachi one was that I honestly couldn't ever recall a problem with the WD SATA-II model that was installed in a system where the motherboard was *only* SATA-I capable (at least with respect to the issue under discussion). The last shop I worked in carried only Seagate's and Samsungs as a general proposition unless the customer opted for a different make. So I hadn't had much experience with the WD line (insofar as installing new WD SATA-II HDDs) for some time. And in virtually every case where we installed either a Seagate or Samsung the default jumper configuration of 3 GB/s interface was untouched even when installing the disk in a system having only SATA-I capability. As I'm sure you know, SATA-I drives are fast disappearing from the popular online vendors. And AFAIK they've already disappeared from the "Office" & mass-merchandise retail stores. I also did want to make it clear re my last post that the info I provided was based solely on my own experience involving the issue at hand. I learned a long time ago in this business (at least try) to expunge the words "always" & "never" when it comes to discussing issues & problems affecting PCs. Anna |
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