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  #16  
Old September 27th 18, 04:21 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E. R.[_2_]
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 27/09/2018 00.43, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.


Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.


it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.


We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.


lawyers should be using such a system anyway because they are required
to keep certain information confidential.


Good old paper and couriers.


a courier could mysteriously disappear, along with the documents. then
what?


Sue the courier company :-)


nothing is perfect.



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Carlos E.R.
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  #17  
Old September 27th 18, 04:22 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 27/09/2018 01.52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/09/18 03:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14.56, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go
to his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.


Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.


lawyers should be using such a system anyway because they are required
to keep certain information confidential.


Good old paper and couriers.


A lawuer recently requitred me to use a secure logon to download email
because at some level their mail system identifed that I wasnt using TLS
or something.


Google might say that thing, too. I read something about it.


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Carlos E.R.
  #18  
Old September 27th 18, 04:52 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.

Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.


it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.


We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.


not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.
  #19  
Old September 27th 18, 05:10 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E. R.[_2_]
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 27/09/2018 11.52, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.

Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.

it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.


We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.


not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue.


--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
  #20  
Old September 27th 18, 05:15 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
nospam
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to
his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.

Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.

it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.

We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.


not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue.


not for every item he uses.
  #21  
Old September 27th 18, 07:31 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E. R.[_2_]
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 27/09/2018 12.15, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to
his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.

Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.

it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.

We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue.


not for every item he uses.


Something as crucial as mail? Certainly. Ask them...

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
  #22  
Old September 27th 18, 09:07 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 27/09/2018 12.15, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any
encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to
his
office and teach him.

use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they
need is a browser or an app on their phone.

That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did
not want to do.

no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted
medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever
one works best for all parties involved.

Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email
gets intercepted or somehow compromised.

it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to
intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is
something trivially guessed.

We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-)

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.

Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue.


not for every item he uses.


Something as crucial as mail? Certainly. Ask them...


I don't know about you, but I found this part quite funny, not to say
hilarious:

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!?

nospam at his best!
  #23  
Old September 27th 18, 09:39 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:


He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!?


there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.
  #24  
Old September 28th 18, 02:45 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 27/09/2018 16.39, nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:


He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.


A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!?


there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.


Does that include setting PGP on his own? Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?

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Carlos E.R.
  #25  
Old September 28th 18, 02:52 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a
contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.

A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!?


there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.


Does that include setting PGP on his own?


no.

Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?


no.

this applies to you too:
don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.

  #26  
Old September 28th 18, 07:22 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E. R.[_2_]
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 28/09/2018 09.52, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a
contract.

not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist.

A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!?

there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.


Does that include setting PGP on his own?


no.

Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?


no.


Then it does not apply for a law bureau.

this applies to you too:
don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.



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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
  #27  
Old September 28th 18, 07:26 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.

Does that include setting PGP on his own?


no.

Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?


no.


Then it does not apply for a law bureau.


it does not disqualify it for being used.

you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all
available options.
  #28  
Old September 28th 18, 08:43 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E. R.[_2_]
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

On 28/09/2018 14.26, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.

Does that include setting PGP on his own?

no.

Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?

no.


Then it does not apply for a law bureau.


it does not disqualify it for being used.

you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all
available options.


And you do? ROTFL! X'-)

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
  #29  
Old September 28th 18, 08:54 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed

In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote:

there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody
other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are
used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free,
some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on
various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom
domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one
lists gdpr compliance.

don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products.

Does that include setting PGP on his own?

no.

Or does it assume that his IT
professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service?

no.

Then it does not apply for a law bureau.


it does not disqualify it for being used.

you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all
available options.


And you do? ROTFL! X'-)


i'm not the one making the decision to use any particular system.

i'm simply telling you of their existence, which you refuse to
acknowledge.
 




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