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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 27/09/2018 00.43, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. lawyers should be using such a system anyway because they are required to keep certain information confidential. Good old paper and couriers. a courier could mysteriously disappear, along with the documents. then what? Sue the courier company :-) nothing is perfect. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 27/09/2018 01.52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/09/18 03:20, Carlos E. R. wrote: On 26/09/2018 14.56, nospam wrote: In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. lawyers should be using such a system anyway because they are required to keep certain information confidential. Good old paper and couriers. A lawuer recently requitred me to use a secure logon to download email because at some level their mail system identifed that I wasnt using TLS or something. Google might say that thing, too. I read something about it. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 27/09/2018 11.52, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue. not for every item he uses. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 27/09/2018 12.15, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue. not for every item he uses. Something as crucial as mail? Certainly. Ask them... -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 27/09/2018 12.15, nospam wrote: In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: People with which I needed to use encryption were unable to set any encryption method up. A lawyer, for instance. I would have to go to his office and teach him. use an encrypted email service. there's nothing to set up. all they need is a browser or an app on their phone. That would require a binding contract and spend money, which they did not want to do. no it wouldn't. it only needs a mutual agreement to use an encrypted medium. there are free options as well as paid ones. choose whichever one works best for all parties involved. Not for a lawyer, it wouldn't. He would be directly liable if the email gets intercepted or somehow compromised. it's actually ideal for a lawyer, since it's basically impossible to intercept and crack end-to-end encrypted email unless the passcode is something trivially guessed. We know that. He may or may not, but that would be irrelevant. :-) He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. Not valid enough for the lawyer. He needs someone to sue. not for every item he uses. Something as crucial as mail? Certainly. Ask them... I don't know about you, but I found this part quite funny, not to say hilarious: He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!? nospam at his best! |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!? there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 27/09/2018 16.39, nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg wrote: He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!? there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote: He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!? there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? no. Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? no. this applies to you too: don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 28/09/2018 09.52, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: He needs to pay someone that says "yes, this is safe". With a contract. not if he uses a free service that states that, which i said exist. A *lawyer*, trusting a *free* service saying "yes, this is safe"!? there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? no. Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? no. Then it does not apply for a law bureau. this applies to you too: don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote: there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? no. Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? no. Then it does not apply for a law bureau. it does not disqualify it for being used. you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all available options. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
On 28/09/2018 14.26, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E. R. wrote: there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? no. Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? no. Then it does not apply for a law bureau. it does not disqualify it for being used. you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all available options. And you do? ROTFL! X'-) -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Good example why business emails should be PGP'ed
In article , Carlos E. R.
wrote: there are several encrypted email services which guarantees that nobody other than the sender or recipient can read the contents, which are used by lawyers and many others who want secure transit. some are free, some offer paid tiers above free and some are paid only, depending on various options such as number of mailboxes, email volume, custom domain, etc. some are open source and can be audited. at least one lists gdpr compliance. don't dismiss it because of your own unfamiliarity with the products. Does that include setting PGP on his own? no. Or does it assume that his IT professional hired by the bureau sets that or some other service? no. Then it does not apply for a law bureau. it does not disqualify it for being used. you don't speak for all law bureaus nor are you familiar with all available options. And you do? ROTFL! X'-) i'm not the one making the decision to use any particular system. i'm simply telling you of their existence, which you refuse to acknowledge. |
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