where is 10586.36

Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at 10240.....

Regards, Rene

On 18/12/15 18:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at
10240.....

Regards, Rene

Rene,

You can download the full iso from this link:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10ISO

This is just a favour to you as it is Christmas otherwise, as you may
know, I expect all pensioners to be intelligent.

On 12/18/2015 1:01 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 18/12/15 18:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at
10240.....

Regards, Rene

Rene,

You can download the full iso from this link:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10ISO

This is just a favour to you as it is Christmas otherwise, as you may
know, I expect all pensioners to be intelligent.




Thanks for the link. And a Merry Christmas to you and your Family.

Regards, Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote on 12/18/2015 1:40 PM:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at 10240.....

Regards, Rene

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On 12/18/2015 9:25 PM, . . .winston wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 12/18/2015 1:40 PM:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at
10240.....

Regards, Rene

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.


Thanks Winston, Got it and installed, Up to date now. Merry Christmas

Thanks, Rene

On 18/12/2015 19:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at 10240.....

Regards, Rene


Did you upgrade to Windows 10 in the last month?
Or, are you running Windows 10 Pro and you selected "Defer updates" in
the Windowsupdate settings?


See
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/13/fix...ot-showing-up/

Rene Lamontagne wrote on 12/18/2015 11:13 PM:
On 12/18/2015 9:25 PM, . . .winston wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 12/18/2015 1:40 PM:
Can't seem to locate this update anywhere, I seem to be stuck at
10240.....

Regards, Rene

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.


Thanks Winston, Got it and installed, Up to date now. Merry Christmas

Thanks, Rene


You're welcome.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

In message , . . .winston
writes
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.

Well I am trying to monitor what is going on with the build updates, and
asking a couple of users what is happening. One is on Home Premium and
one is on Pro As of yesterday, both were still on 10240.

Should they have been offered the update by now? Both are professional
users who need their machines to be ready and available for their work.
The "Home" user switches the power to all his machines off at night
(this used to include his router, not sure if he has taken my advice to
leave that on), and I was hoping to see how the policy would affect him.
--
Bill

Bill wrote:
In message , . . .winston
writes
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.

Well I am trying to monitor what is going on with the build updates, and
asking a couple of users what is happening. One is on Home Premium and
one is on Pro As of yesterday, both were still on 10240.

Should they have been offered the update by now? Both are professional
users who need their machines to be ready and available for their work.
The "Home" user switches the power to all his machines off at night
(this used to include his router, not sure if he has taken my advice to
leave that on), and I was hoping to see how the policy would affect him.

There isn't any strong evidence that I've seen, that
Microsoft "recognizes" busted users and fixes them.
If you want your **** fixed, you're living in a DIY world.
That's my operative assumption about how this stuff works.

1) Backup the computer. (For a professional user, you need a
Plan B so there is no down time on an Upgrade failure.)
2) Obtain the media for the desired version.
3) Run setup.exe off the new media to kick off an Upgrade install.
4) Some of your "fixes" will be lost by doing the Upgrade.
I had to turn off WOL (Wake On LAN) again. I *keep*
having to set the screen blanking time, as the Upgrade
installs a fresh video driver, wipes out the Power schema
adjustment I made, and so on.

Particularly on the latest updates, the controls on Windows
Update have been modified. So if these users were doing
something to Windows Update, their scheme will no longer work.

It's possible these users became domain-joined after installing
10240. Or, they use Wifi, and they turned on "metered Internet",
which stops discretionary expensive network operations. Some
people on satellite only have a 2GB cap, and a 3.5GB DVD download
costs them money. Turning on "metered Internet" stops
that from happening. So there are some variables that
might "block" the mechanics of the Upgrade.

The metered Internet setting only works on Wifi. And
doesn't affect a computer with a wired connection.
Microsoft assumes if you're using a wire, it's
a cheap form of Internet connection.

Paul

In message , Paul writes
Bill wrote:
In message , . . .winston
writes
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.
Well I am trying to monitor what is going on with the build updates,
and asking a couple of users what is happening. One is on Home
Premium and one is on Pro As of yesterday, both were still on 10240.
Should they have been offered the update by now? Both are
professional users who need their machines to be ready and available
for their work. The "Home" user switches the power to all his
machines off at night (this used to include his router, not sure if
he has taken my advice to leave that on), and I was hoping to see how
the policy would affect him.

There isn't any strong evidence that I've seen, that
Microsoft "recognizes" busted users and fixes them.
If you want your **** fixed, you're living in a DIY world.
That's my operative assumption about how this stuff works.

1) Backup the computer. (For a professional user, you need a
Plan B so there is no down time on an Upgrade failure.)
2) Obtain the media for the desired version.
3) Run setup.exe off the new media to kick off an Upgrade install.
4) Some of your "fixes" will be lost by doing the Upgrade.
I had to turn off WOL (Wake On LAN) again. I *keep*
having to set the screen blanking time, as the Upgrade
installs a fresh video driver, wipes out the Power schema
adjustment I made, and so on.

Particularly on the latest updates, the controls on Windows
Update have been modified. So if these users were doing
something to Windows Update, their scheme will no longer work.

It's possible these users became domain-joined after installing
10240. Or, they use Wifi, and they turned on "metered Internet",
which stops discretionary expensive network operations. Some
people on satellite only have a 2GB cap, and a 3.5GB DVD download
costs them money. Turning on "metered Internet" stops
that from happening. So there are some variables that
might "block" the mechanics of the Upgrade.

The metered Internet setting only works on Wifi. And
doesn't affect a computer with a wired connection.
Microsoft assumes if you're using a wire, it's
a cheap form of Internet connection.

Paul
The point is that I am trying to see what happens to the average
non-technical user who has become used to an OS that stays fairly
consistent during the lifetime of the machine.

The older user of the "Home" version is on a fast, wired internet
connection and his was a 10-month old Windows 8.1 machine (from CCL)
that "automatically" updated itself to Windows 10. He is not the sort
of user who would expect to have to download an iso file and install it,
and when something goes wrong he often asks me to take over on
Teamviewer.
Last time I looked he was not running anything to disable telemetry or
updates, although he has expressed dismay about MS data capture,
targeted adverts etc.

He has said that he will ring me if the build changes. I'm in the UK.
Maybe build auto-updates haven't reached here yet.
--
Bill

Bill wrote on 12/19/2015 7:00 AM:
In message , . . .winston
writes
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3116908
Requires Version 1511 Build 10.10586.3 through .29

If at 10.10240, use the Media Creation Tool created media.

Well I am trying to monitor what is going on with the build updates, and
asking a couple of users what is happening. One is on Home Premium and
one is on Pro As of yesterday, both were still on 10240.

Should they have been offered the update by now? Both are professional
users who need their machines to be ready and available for their work.
The "Home" user switches the power to all his machines off at night
(this used to include his router, not sure if he has taken my advice to
leave that on), and I was hoping to see how the policy would affect him.

Not necessarily. 1511/10586 is being offered to devices(and like
devices with similar hardware and software) that have a history of
successful updating. Much of that prioritization comes from collected
telemetry.

In fact, reading this group and following the advice to disable Win10
telemetry may in fact delay a majory o/s upgrade. Think about it !

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

.. . .winston posted
this via :

Think about it !

He was all dressed up in a little pink tuu-tuu
and Lucy Ricardo face makeup when he said that.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

.. . .winston wrote on 12/19/2015 11:16 PM:

Not necessarily. 1511/10586 is being offered to devices(and like
devices with similar hardware and software) that have a history of
successful updating. Much of that prioritization comes from collected
telemetry.

In fact, reading this group and following the advice to disable Win10
telemetry may in fact delay a majory o/s upgrade. Think about it !

Just what data is the telemetry collecting?

Cy Burnot wrote on 12/20/2015 4:39 PM:
. . .winston wrote on 12/19/2015 11:16 PM:

Not necessarily. 1511/10586 is being offered to devices(and like
devices with similar hardware and software) that have a history of
successful updating. Much of that prioritization comes from collected
telemetry.

In fact, reading this group and following the advice to disable Win10
telemetry may in fact delay a majory o/s upgrade. Think about it !

Just what data is the telemetry collecting?

System information on 7/8/10 and then comparing with other systems that
have successfully upgraded to another o/s or a major upgrade(e.g. 10240
to obtain 10586) for the same o/s.

i.e. it's not(nor has it ever been with Win10) just push it down to
every machine - now its push it down to devices that fit a wide range of
criteria sufficient yes'es vs. insufficient no's - all from collected
telemetry.


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

.. . .winston wrote on 12/20/2015 7:15 PM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/20/2015 4:39 PM:

System information on 7/8/10 and then comparing with other systems that
have successfully upgraded to another o/s or a major upgrade(e.g. 10240
to obtain 10586) for the same o/s.


Just what "system information"? That's a pretty vague term.